Journal #8279

Posted 10 years ago2013-11-06 23:43:09 UTC
monster_urby monster_urbyGoldsourcerer
How is it that an international corporation can charge you to high heaven to use their operating system, when it can just stop working?

I'm totally serious, I made NO changes to my system, I've been using the same AV software since I got this PC, the last time I used it I played some BF4, posted a couple of things on TWHL / Moddb and went to bed.

This evening, I get home from work, turn on my PC and find that it just wont do anything. No net connection, no security, can't even open the task manager sometimes. Spent the last hour looking for a solution on my tablet which came down to me editing my damn registry to fix something that just apparently broke because of reasons!

17 Comments

Commented 10 years ago2013-11-07 00:11:06 UTC Comment #43944
holy shitballs.
Which OS?
Commented 10 years ago2013-11-07 00:27:52 UTC Comment #43938
Windows 7
Commented 10 years ago2013-11-07 04:56:38 UTC Comment #43950
I thought Windows 7 was the least worst Windows operating system out there.
Commented 10 years ago2013-11-07 08:15:23 UTC Comment #43951
Something fucked it up. Either a virus or something you installed messed with system files.
A lot of things can damage an operating system. You're lucky its not the boot sector thats affected so you can easily fix it.

And who in their RIGHT mind pays for an operating system? Why?

@ Stu
Windows 8.1 is the best windows operating system. Its much better than 7 and any other that they have made (For todays computing).
Commented 10 years ago2013-11-07 11:19:58 UTC Comment #43948
What IS the general consensus on the new (windows 8 and anything that may have come since then (I don't pay much attention)) OSs?
Commented 10 years ago2013-11-07 12:08:45 UTC Comment #43942
"And who in their RIGHT mind pays for an operating system? Why?"

Me. It's at a fair price point, will last for half a decade if not longer and is a legal requirement of its use.
Commented 10 years ago2013-11-07 12:21:30 UTC Comment #43945
I'm a firm believer in shunning Windows 8. But is 8.1 better - because I honestly Love windows 7.
Can you do a system restore?
If that doesn't work, you might have to do a re-format.
It sucks, but It could be a great excuse to throw a SSD in your computer so it can fly.
Commented 10 years ago2013-11-07 12:27:50 UTC Comment #43947
My employer pays for my MSDN subscription so I don't have to pay for Windows (or any other MS product for that matter) but I still have multiple licenses that I can use :P

If you're a STEM student you probably have access to a program that Microsoft offers that gives you a free license to many of their products, including Windows. Ask your university if they subscribe to the DreamSpark program. The license can still be used after you graduate.
Commented 10 years ago2013-11-07 13:29:27 UTC Comment #43952
@ Scotch

Windows 8.1 is generally more responsive and "faster" than windows 7. Mine Windows 8.1 boots from 7 to 10 seconds on an regular hard drive. It has an customizable metro start menu that is pretty neat when you arrange it the way you like. It has crappy apps that you can add onto metro as well, like weather and notes and crap like that.

It supports DX11.1, the core system is better, applications respond faster to calls and anything i have tried works in it (except 16bit applications). Even some apps i tried from windows 95 work as well. Plus it has some compatibility analyzer thing you can use before you start the application.

Metro also heavily reduces number of program icons on taskbar/desktop. Access to some various things like network, control panel and computer info has been moved, but its by my opinion better that way.
The system works very well with older hardware, all my external floppies work, and they work even better than on windows 7.

tl;dr

Boots much much faster
Is ready to use instantly as it boots
Better core system, DX 11.1
Better UI, simpler usage
@ Archie
Don't be a sucker and harm your self because some silly law says so.

And pengy is right about Dream Spark, that's how i got mine W8.1 pro. Any one on an technical faculty/college should have it.
Commented 10 years ago2013-11-07 13:53:19 UTC Comment #43939
@Tetsu0: I managed to fix it by editing the registry. Already running with an SSD too. :D

@StojkeK I never said I paid for it. I just think it's ridiculous that they charge so much. My copy of Win7 Pro came pre-installed on my gaming rig. :)

Anywho, fixed it. The LanmanServer service wasn't starting properly and was holding all the other services up behind it. RedEdited that mother fucker.
Commented 10 years ago2013-11-07 14:01:11 UTC Comment #43943
Urby, it was part of the price of yhe rig. You still bought it. Technically I didn't since I won my rig, but I would have otherwise.
Windows 8.1 is cheaper than BF4 with Premium and it is responsible for everything you run. How can you possibly argue they charge too much?
Commented 10 years ago2013-11-07 14:47:37 UTC Comment #43953
Because of a very simple thing, i didn't need such system stability/functionality and am unemployed with out any form of income :)
Plus with so many ways to get a copy for "dz" (free) investing money into it isn't the best solution.

120$ is still an insane price for an game even if i had income.
Commented 10 years ago2013-11-07 17:22:31 UTC Comment #43940
How much money do MS need? Perhaps if they charged the price of a game (a game game, not an EA game) people wouldn't pirate that shit so often.
Commented 10 years ago2013-11-07 20:24:31 UTC Comment #43946
Wtf happened with your registry?
Commented 10 years ago2013-11-07 22:34:15 UTC Comment #43949
I got windows 8&7 along with several applications ( including Office and Visual Studio) for free.
College FTW.
Commented 10 years ago2013-11-08 08:45:50 UTC Comment #43941
Not sure of the full details since I just followed the advise I found online, but it basically came down to removing the line LanmanWorkstation and adding LanmanServer. It's way beyond my understanding but it worked so I'm happy.

The reason I got irritated is because this issue seems to date back to much older versions of Windows and it's still causing problems. MS need to sort their shit.
Commented 10 years ago2013-11-12 05:37:10 UTC Comment #43954
I'm quoting :D "How much money do MS need?" I'm quoting :D

Isn't "How much money do MS need?", but "How much money do MS want?"
  • You've found a way to get money.
  • You saw that your way to get money is making you getting A LOT of money.
  • You want more money.
Microsoft, and every other rich organization, explained in 3 sentences. :D

Btw, I worked as a computer technician 3-4 years ago, but (for obvious reasons) the only OSs I worked with was XP, Vista and a bit of 7. And because of that I couldn't help you more than Stojke.

I've never tried Win 8. I'll probably follow StojkenZ's advices. :o

Oh, glad you've solved the problem, Urbanebula! :3

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