Competition 34: HL Re-Imagined Created 1 year ago2016-10-27 11:07:32 UTC by Trempler Trempler

Created 1 year ago2016-10-27 11:07:32 UTC by Trempler Trempler

Posted 1 year ago2016-10-27 11:07:32 UTC Post #332129
[AdminHijack]

This is now the official thread for competition 34! See the competition briefing for full details.

This competition theme is based on the community's concept of remaking a HL1 map into something fresh and new. Let's see what you can do folks!

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Yo anyone here still alive and up for an Competition for good old hl1 DM ?
Only Vanilla content allowed and creativity is asked :)

If some people are up to join, I would set up some prices or would people move their asses for free :D ?
Posted 1 year ago2016-10-27 11:33:34 UTC Post #332130
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Jessie JessieLadytype
Posted 1 year ago2016-10-27 11:51:53 UTC Post #332131
I feel a need to sign up... but I have so much I should already be working on and I'll be honest. My creativity is absolutely shot...

Like, I'm really struggling to work on anything at the moment.
UrbaNebula UrbaNebulamonster_urby
Posted 1 year ago2016-10-29 01:37:25 UTC Post #332144
I could try.
Suparsonik SuparsonikWithstood the post-nuke test.
Posted 1 year ago2016-10-29 13:36:50 UTC Post #332145
Maybe a collab with someone; i have some ideas for a nice 3d skybox. And i'm so rusty, i haven't touched GS in sooooo long. Last time i've even seen GS was on Urbys stream :death:
Posted 1 year ago2016-10-30 09:31:33 UTC Post #332154
Count me in for the competition.
Posted 1 year ago2016-10-30 09:34:43 UTC Post #332155
its time to wake up... i havent map for a years!!!

I am in.
Posted 1 year ago2016-10-30 13:47:10 UTC Post #332157
Let me just blow the dust from VHE icon.
Posted 1 year ago2016-10-31 02:55:45 UTC Post #332162
Latest news is from Feb 29th... I can't remember when the last time (before now) that I've been on this site. I've been wondering if there would be any new compos. Yeah, lets have it. (Like I really have any time, though... :( )
Posted 1 year ago2016-10-31 03:15:12 UTC Post #332163
I suspect some reasons no competitions have happened lately despite someone proposing one every month or so are:
  • Admins are busy and cannot/would not judge a competition
  • Few others offer to judge
  • Everyone acts all excited and yet only about four entries ever get produced
  • At least two of those inevitably require deadline extensions
  • Waiting until TWHL4
Jessie JessieLadytype
Posted 1 year ago2016-10-31 07:24:15 UTC Post #332164
Not a bad list, I have made some revisions:

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  • Admins are lazy and unmotivated
  • Waiting until TWHL4 (but: see above)
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Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 1 year ago2016-10-31 08:00:07 UTC Post #332166
I think I'd happily throw my name up for a judging role. (But I may also participate, and I can't promise that wouldn't introduce some bias :P .) (... Not that I consider myself that competitive, or that great a mapper =P)
Jessie JessieLadytype
Posted 1 year ago2016-10-31 11:28:16 UTC Post #332170
My creativity has existed in short bursts at the most inopportune times, so I cant really promise an entry.
Crypt Crypt120% sorry!
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-01 03:00:36 UTC Post #332178
I'd judge but it'd have to be written and with images rather than a video. I'm not great with that kind of stuff.
Suparsonik SuparsonikWithstood the post-nuke test.
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-04 03:48:21 UTC Post #332195
I'd be down, especially for a partners/collab contest. I've no shortage of ideas, but motivation is different story; a GS compo might be just the thing to refill the well ;)
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-04 11:29:14 UTC Post #332196
I´m happy that people are still alive and want to do something again! :)

So some Ideas about we could do:

DM Map - SP Maps - Maybe Sven Co-op Maps ( Because of higher limits )

Normal Mapcompetition - Collab Maps - A small SP Storyline where all work together

I´m fine for everything, so you guys decide it :)
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-04 13:53:57 UTC Post #332197
If using your own mod is allowed i can win this by just making my own entities :P
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-05 06:33:28 UTC Post #332200
How about Trempler you facilitate?

idea #1
You come up with a fun DM/SP/SC/etc theme idea, and den write up a list of jobs we can choose from to complete the map? Make the job list first-come, first-serve, and participants can also pick a second job once they've finished the first one.

idea #2
Map-from-base is always a fun option, and makes it easier for us lazies join up.
yes you have to make the basemap :)

idea #3
75 brushes compo--based on the 30 brushes official TWHL competition. You have 75 brushes to build a functioning DM or SP map.
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-05 06:45:40 UTC Post #332201
what about TWHL Tower 2?

More Status Reports to send!
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-05 09:10:17 UTC Post #332202
hmm maybe map a medievel theme level? or cyberpunk level?
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-05 11:45:19 UTC Post #332204
I've always liked the Map From Layout concept, myself.
Jessie JessieLadytype
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-05 18:36:35 UTC Post #332205
I feel a need to sign up... but I have so much I should already be working on and I'll be honest. My creativity is absolutely shot...

Like, I'm really struggling to work on anything at the moment.
Do a stream of you mapping for TWHL HUB! (remember this?) That will motivate you! :) (PS: It's an order)
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-05 21:00:47 UTC Post #332206
I've always liked the Map From Layout concept, myself.
good idea but i think it might be better if we set up a rule:

layout + theme
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-05 21:09:15 UTC Post #332207
I don't know, I feel freedom of theme is a good part of what makes individual entries for Map From Layout competitions unique.
Jessie JessieLadytype
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-06 02:21:37 UTC Post #332209
I agree that with a map-from-base/layout contest, it's implied the mapper is creating the theme. That said, can see it working the other way too, e.g., mapper is given a generic castle shell, and it's up to them to decorate/improvise, sticking to the medieval vibe.
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-06 07:32:30 UTC Post #332211
That's more or less Map From Base, right? :P
Jessie JessieLadytype
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-06 11:04:00 UTC Post #332212
LOL now I'm not sure? :)

Firstly, does Map From Layout = Map From Base, or do you mean working off a pic/drawing of a layout(rather than a complete basemap)?

Ninja was requesting Map From Base/Layout + Predefined Theme, which I think could be interesting too.

Personally I prefer more restrictions for a contest, because it can inspire you to come up with some nifty mapping gimmicks to compensate.
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-06 12:54:50 UTC Post #332213
I may have misunderstood slightly, but I think what you described is essentially the idea of Map From Base, just with a specific theme. I'm not sure either that or Map From Layout would work great with a theme requirement because you would end up with a lot of very similar maps.

For reference, I consider the types here to be:
  • Map From Layout (but not necessarily with floor heights spelled out)
  • Map From Base (I know there's been a better example in the past, but I don't think it was an official compo and thus I couldn't be assed searching for it. Basically that idea but with more freedom of structure/detail)
Restrictions are nice, but after a certain point I feel they hinder creativity more than promote it. It's just a matter of balance between freedom and direction. I like Map From Layout because it sets one up with a clear place to start, but leaves everything beyond that up to the mapper.

... Everything else aside, the community has been clamoring for a new official competition for 3 years now. If the power to create one has to be given to someone else (temporarily if need be) for it to happen, perhaps that is something to consider.
Jessie JessieLadytype
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-06 13:27:06 UTC Post #332214
If map from base/layout, I think it would be better to let each individual mapper to choose their own theme. I think it will give much more varied results that show more creativity by how they chose to make their theme fit the layout.

I have a few ideas for compo 'theme':

Map from other media. I know its been done before. Recreate a level from another game or a level based off of a tv show or movie. (Remake SP level from goldeneye (new layout), halo mp map (similar layout, different theme), the megacity from Dredd, that one water village in the Desolation of Smaug (Hobbit 2))

Map from real life location but in an altered state (futuristic, wartorn, post apocalyptic, medieval, alien civilization). Include pics/video of what the original location looks like (if its not a common public place people can google). Example: Eiffel tower as a landmark (or secret alien comm facility) on an alien planet.
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-10 10:45:41 UTC Post #332234
Map cs_canbunk*
Recreate TWHL's first mystery map as you imagine it could be, having only the one screenshot and the few map comments for reference. Maybe also award the winner by having his map replace the notoriously empty download.

Map From Layout: Iceworld*
Using the old chestnut fy_iceworld layout, re-theme and revitalize the map as you see fit, with bonus points awarded to those sticking as closely as possible to the original playable areas.

*If you don't like CS, it would also be perfectly fine to make your entries HLDM
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-10 12:04:12 UTC Post #332235
My absolute favourite competition was Re-invent a CS classic. I was gutted I was a judge, because I would have loved to compete.

Re-invent a HLDM classic, anyone?*
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Cue 50 crossfire remakes.*
**Not a bad thing.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-10 13:30:36 UTC Post #332236
Re-invent a HLDM classic, anyone?*
Squirt

...ahem. What I mean is "I'd be up for that."
UrbaNebula UrbaNebulamonster_urby
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-10 13:54:56 UTC Post #332237
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-10 16:38:33 UTC Post #332244
Got a long list of project that need to be done. Can't participate.
Shepard62700FR Shepard62700FRHalf-Cat is watching...
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-11 17:18:12 UTC Post #332249
sp or mp?
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-11 18:11:32 UTC Post #332250
a good solution would be free to choose
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-12 20:28:39 UTC Post #332257
I'd enter if the theme was reinvent a original hldm!
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-12 22:26:22 UTC Post #332259
oh yeah I was part of 2 reinvent a original hldm maps, so yeah a good point, i´m thinkin about that too :)
Gosh I have an epic Idea now for a cool reinvent version of a HLDM Map :o
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-13 01:33:49 UTC Post #332260
Would I be right in guessing the Admins can't give Competition powers to someone wihout giving all the other powers to them as well? :P
Jessie JessieLadytype
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-13 05:24:49 UTC Post #332261
Cheese
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-13 17:42:53 UTC Post #332267
Why don't we just make it an unofficial competition?

boot_camp
bunce
crossfire
datacore
frenzy
gasworks
lambdabunker
rapidcore
snark_pit
stalkyard
subtransit
undertow

Here's the list. You should be able to keep yours a secret if you like.

How long should we give it, about two months? Judges can be figd out later, we already got Jessie.
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-13 17:43:29 UTC Post #332268
Why not make it a mashup? All of the above maps jammed into one big map.
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-13 17:45:37 UTC Post #332269
Because dingus. Jk lol.
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-13 17:58:20 UTC Post #332270
What about making a map where you have to use at least one room from each HLDM map ?
Shepard62700FR Shepard62700FRHalf-Cat is watching...
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-13 19:22:16 UTC Post #332272
But... there are 17 HLDM maps. More if you include the PS2 exclusives.
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-13 20:10:33 UTC Post #332273
I did a remake for stalkyard before.
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-13 22:21:34 UTC Post #332274
I just think an official one is overdue, that's all :tired:

Unofficial is fine.
Jessie JessieLadytype
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-13 22:33:45 UTC Post #332275
It's nice to see the all the old faces here after all these years :)

Well there is obviously interest here for a new map competition. Unofficial is fine, but I agree with Jessie an official one would be nice.

I joined here years ago not as primarily a Half-Life fan, but just a very casual Counter-Strike player who just wanted to map. I'm down for anything...
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-13 22:44:29 UTC Post #332276
If you like, you guys can come up with the compo theme and I'll make it into an official one.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 1 year ago2016-11-13 23:08:33 UTC Post #332277
I'd be more interested in doing a remake of scoutzknivez like I mentioned before because I actually could play the map in a server.

The only problem with hldm remake for me is i'd never play the map.
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