Journal #8401

Posted 10 years ago2014-07-11 01:46:32 UTC
Notewell NotewellGIASFELFEBREHBER
Bought Doom I and II from the Doom Complete pack from steam.
Which I am now proceeding to not play through steam, as the built-in DosBox emulation has really bad video colour and lag issues. (I'm running the WADs through the gzdoom interpreter instead)

Sometimes you just want a nice corridor-erm...maze shooter.

22 Comments

Commented 10 years ago2014-07-11 04:21:15 UTC Comment #61150
Aw, it misses the Doom!
On my to-do list of games to replay!
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-11 04:30:10 UTC Comment #61143
Still a bloody great game, and definitely not a corridor shooter! The level design is sort of semi-non-linear and largely abstract. Lots of wide areas to demonstrate it's speed and maneuverability (I think there's about 3 hitscan enemies in the entire game, everything else can be dodged with skill). I really miss this style of level design.

"Corridor shooter" makes me think of games that are literally funneling you down one path. There are levels in Doom way larger than most modern shooters, which is pretty strange.

Smart move using a source port too, the modding scene has been really good to Id games. I like playing their games as vanilla as possible, just with better modern compatibility, no new out-of-place bells and whistles.
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-11 12:16:07 UTC Comment #61145
1. Go to MODDB.
2. Download Brutal Doom.
3. Wonder how you ever got by without it.
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-11 17:10:50 UTC Comment #61161
FUCKING URBY. STOLE MY FUCKING SUGGESTION. Building off of what Urby said, seems you already have GzDoom, which is nice, but if you ever want to play multiplayer I'd recommend Zandronum, playing Brutal Doom on a LAN with friends is fun as hell. Me and my friend used to do it in school everyday. But it's the best, if you like pixel gore, get it, because you do. Nothing beats kicking demons while flipping them off yelling "GO FUCK YOURSELF", then ripping them to shreds with your bare hands. Nothing.
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-11 18:43:08 UTC Comment #61151
All the Doom II memories are coming back now, what fun! Thanks for the tips Urby/Brendan! =P
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-11 20:07:00 UTC Comment #61159
I was actually planning on doing Brutal Doom for a second playthrough - it's the reason I finally got around to buying the games.

And yeah, Strider, I agree. I think a lot of people would consider it a dumb corridor shooter, since there's not much in the way of story development, but the levels in Doom are some of the best mazes I've seen inside or outside of a shooter - just getting through one level takes more thought than 90% of modern FPS games. Combine that with the enemy AI and the weapons, and you have spot-on gameplay that takes little work to get into but much to master.

I've done all 3 original episodes of Doom I and am what I think is most of the way through Doom II, and the only reason I stopped there is because I've been playing all day long and felt the need to get something productive done besides admiring/analyzing classic gameplay design.
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-11 21:03:39 UTC Comment #61146
Heretic was fantastic too.
That was my first shooter.
Never finished a doom game.
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-11 21:20:31 UTC Comment #61152
I've heard good things about Heretic--like I think turning people into chickens?--, but I never playt it.. Added to the list =P
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-11 21:44:24 UTC Comment #61147
download it and type "idkfa"
you get turned into a chicken and a message displays "Trying to cheat eh?"
It's temporary, but good fun in the first level.
You can fly and peck enemies.
User posted image
FPS chicken
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-11 23:43:14 UTC Comment #61153
Bok-bok-bok-bok-bok-bok, BOK! :P
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-12 19:49:18 UTC Comment #61163
Brutal Doom is awful. Don't follow Urby or Brendanmint's advice if you don't want to get slapped across the head by me. If you're looking for the most vanilla experience possible, check out Chocolate Doom. I used to use zDoom since it was one of my favorite source ports but now that I've discovered Chocolate Doom, it's all I play with. I also recommend getting some decent midi drivers and checking out an SC-55 midi thingy so you can listen to the Doom music in the quality that Bobby Price originally composed and heard it in.
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-12 23:15:36 UTC Comment #61154
^ Yessir! ;P

I want to get that midi thingie for some of my other MSDOS dos games too.. Can u emulate it or do you need the chip? <starts googling Chocolate Doom>
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-13 00:04:55 UTC Comment #61156
http://sc55.duke4.net/ has music packs recorded with an SC-55. I haven't tried them yet.
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-13 02:43:21 UTC Comment #61144
I agree with Suture about Brutal Doom. It messes with the pace and flow of Doom in ways I don't like, and the excess gore becomes very boring quickly. It also chucks a lot of weird 'next-gen' features in there like a bloody screen (so real!) and lens flares galore that stand out like a sore thumb. Lots of stuff that just sort of gets in the way of the core gameplay.

But you may like it, it puts less emphasis on controlling crowds or rooms, and more on the 'visceral' act of killing individual dudes. I'm a vanilla guy when it comes to old school shooters.

EDIT:
Also I totally forgot about that Heretic chicken thing. That was amazing!
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-13 16:00:52 UTC Comment #61164
No, not that Potatis. A problem with most of those packs is that the music is usually a direct convert from a YouTube video or in terrible MP1 or MP2 quality. I prefer to actually have my soundcard itself emulate the original sound, plus an added benefit is to hear other games that were meant to have the soundfont, but don't have any music packs. There is literally a soundfont that someone had created to emulate most of the SC-55 and it is awesome. If your soundcard is integrated, get the BassMIDI drivers and the soundfont, but if it is a Creative soundcard then I think you can actually configure it through a tool that comes with it.
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-13 19:07:53 UTC Comment #61157
They're not from Youtube, the guy who put them up owns an SC-55. They're available in FLAC and they sound great.
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-14 00:42:09 UTC Comment #61162
Regardless of what the two above said, give Brutal Doom a try, they might think it's bad but you never know what you'll think of it. Doom's fun all on it's own, but Brutal Doom just makes it loads of more fun to play.
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-14 01:51:56 UTC Comment #61155
Oh I will definitely check it out regardless! =)

I remember playing doom II for the first time at work(!386 or !486?), 1v1 over IPX i think? All I can remember atm are scary monsters, a shotgun, and a rocket launcher ;P

Downloaded DoomEdit to diskette, never once opened it! Had Castle Wolfenstein 3D on my computer at home, but I wouldn't play a shooter game again until Counter-Strike!

Did they have multiplayer for more than 2 players at a time back then? (fucked if i can remember!)
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-14 03:06:10 UTC Comment #61149
I have never played any of the Dooms.

am i doing it rite
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-14 04:38:49 UTC Comment #61158
Definitely not, Scotch. They're great fun and they have barely aged. They're almost as good now as they were in the 90s.
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-14 09:37:00 UTC Comment #61160
You'll probably want to get an interpreter of some kind that runs it on a modern PC and maybe has a more modern control scheme than Arrow Keys + Control + Space.
Commented 10 years ago2014-07-14 10:18:26 UTC Comment #61148
I had doom on my phone :)
it was too clumsy to survive for more than 5 minutes at a time.

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