Eye for an eye!!! Created 20 years ago2004-05-14 01:16:19 UTC by esmajor esmajor

Created 20 years ago2004-05-14 01:16:19 UTC by esmajor esmajor

Posted 20 years ago2004-05-14 01:16:19 UTC Post #26868
I'm a firm believer that the punishment should fit the crime!

If you steal from someone, you deserve to be robbed. If you rape someone, let Bubba the designated cell-block bride have ya!

Now if you hack someone's head off with a large kitchen-type knife, you should be Hung, Drawn, and Quartered!!!

I have seen the footage of Nicholas Berg's murder, and I must put my 2 cents in and say "KILL THOSE RAG HEADED BASTARDS!"

Sorry guys - I'm just outraged at this whole war. :( :x :(
Posted 20 years ago2004-05-14 01:42:40 UTC Post #26869
mmh... I blame the US...
Posted 20 years ago2004-05-14 02:06:07 UTC Post #26874
How about your troops? Does that apply to them too?
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 20 years ago2004-05-14 07:54:33 UTC Post #26909
I have seen the footage of Nicholas Berg's murder
No, you haven't. I didn't watch, but from what I've heard the screams don't synch with the video and there isn't a fountain of blood. If you cut someone's head off (or even just slash their throat) while their heart is still beating blood spurts everywhere.

Imagine you're a little kid on a playground. You could attack the bully and get pulverized, or you could convince a bigger bully that your bully was talking trash about him. Do your own wet work, or trick the USA into doing it for you?
"KILL THOSE RAG HEADED BASTARDS!"
Please free your mind from ignorant thoughts such as these. That comment isn't very far from "The only good indian is a dead indian!" or "INTO THE SHOWERS!!" America is the freakin' melting pot man! Avoid using racial slurs even if they're outside of the USA -- YOU also represent America and that comment is not what I want people to think of us.
How about your troops? Does that apply to them too?
If I were in command? Certainly. Justice would be swift and uncomprimising, regardless of you skin color, wardrobe, or diety.

Then again, if I were supreme ruler it wouldn't be America anymore. Too much freedom causes too many problems... but that's a different rant!
Posted 20 years ago2004-05-14 09:59:49 UTC Post #26923
america is one of the 5 countrys in the world where they execute childeren. those other countryies are all dictator ruled.
so in my eyes america is no hair better then those other 4.
maby a bit hars but its tteu.
and dindt america did thsi to himself. first you bash a country and oyu give them your word you would march ot bagdad wiht the resistance.
then you stop at the borders and 200.000 resistance figthers get slaughtered.
woulndt you be a bit pissed about that your brother is dead by a promise of america??.

and well. they shouldnt torture iraqi prisinors. those where normal soldiers. no trained gaurds ore somthing.
Posted 20 years ago2004-05-14 13:03:43 UTC Post #26951
I'm a firm believer that the punishment should fit the crime!
When's the Iraqi invasion of the United States? What about the Afghani one?
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 20 years ago2004-05-14 13:26:24 UTC Post #26961
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Only 4 other contries execute children? WTF is wrong with the rest of you?!?! What would you do if a 15 year old kid killed his Mom and hid her body in a freezer? Therapy? Perhaps several years in prison and then try to make him into a valuable member of society? Ain't gonna happen. If your dog has rabies you have to put it down... sometimes people have to be put down too.

Call me a monster, but I really don't want my taxes to pay for some beast to rot in a jail cell. In fact, I think the life sentance is a joke. You want me to pay the rent for some murder/rapist/necropheliac? He has free rent and three squares a day for the next 40 years, and I have to pay for it? Bah! Back in the old days (Rome, Greece) we'd ship them off to a mine or quarry where the life expectancy was 4 years. If you hadn't had an accident by then one would be arranged. No lethan injection (with a clean needle), no generator for "Old Sparky", just an "accident" and a shallow grave. If I ruled the world...
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Posted 20 years ago2004-05-14 23:04:50 UTC Post #27024
The video is fuzzy, but watch the floor CLOSELY... there IS a pool of blood.

The audio may not be very syched, but this IS the video of Nick Berg's beheading.....
Posted 20 years ago2004-05-15 02:22:21 UTC Post #27037
so wtf why should we care.
if you like to watch decapitation fine. but dont share that wiht us.
they say come around gos around.
counts for the americans i geus
Posted 20 years ago2004-05-16 09:20:31 UTC Post #27253
they say come around gos around.
counts for the americans i geus
Damn pepper, that's harsh. I guess everyone in Holland is perfect so you never have to worrry bad things going around.
Posted 20 years ago2004-05-16 10:06:26 UTC Post #27256
no we got enough pink lilly's around believe me.
but they start the gingerbread men and i saw a documentary last night. the obscure american soldiers just shoot at everyone who is on street. even the press. and under saddam children and woman could walk and play safe on street. now there not leaving there houses in fear to be shot.

and the guy in the video. it doesnt look like nick berg.
wouldnt it be scary if the guys in the background would be from the cia and the guy in front is iraqi.
bush could use the hate of people to win the election
Posted 20 years ago2004-05-16 10:36:20 UTC Post #27261
I have seen the footage of Nicholas Berg's murder, and I must put my 2 cents in and say "KILL THOSE RAG HEADED BASTARDS!"
1) extremely convenient "wag the dog" timing at the height of furor
regarding U.S. torture of Iraqis

2) CNN poll question: "Is the Berg killing a reason for withholding any
remaining Iraq prisoner abuse pictures?" Bush has been reported to be
struggling with question of whether Pentagon should release additional
torture photos. Given that the alleged decapitation of Berg was allegedly
prompted by the first wave of torture photos, Bush could now cite "national
security" issues for witholding additional materials.

3) Berg's last known whereabouts was in U.S. custody.

4) Berg shown in video wearing orange jumpsuit known to be of U.S. issue
(compare with pictures at Guantanamo).

5) Berg mysteriously captured by Al-Quaeda (still wearing jumpsuit). Either
he escaped from U.S. captors or U.S. let him out -- with orange suit and
all -- to be immediately apprehended by Al-Quaeda (before he had a chance to
change).

6) Tape obviously spliced together and heavily edited. Goes from a) Berg
sitting in chair talking about family, to b) Berg sitting on floor with
hooded "militants" behind, to c) blurry camera movement, to d) almost
motionless Berg on floor as head cut off.

7) Audio clearly dubbed in.

8) "Arab" reader flips through pages of "statement" and keeps ending up on
the same page. Perhaps doesn't even known enough Arabic to recognize what
page he's on?

9) "Arabs" have lily-white hands and (other exposed) skin.

10) "Arabs" have Western-style body posture and mannerisms.

11) When Berg decapitated, there was almost no blood. If Berg were still
alive at this point, with the cut starting at front of throat, blood would
have been spraying everywhere. Berg's severed head, the floor, Berg's
clothes, and even the hand of the "Arab" who decapitated Berg had no visible
blood on it.

12) Berg's body didn't move while on the ground. Although held down, Berg
would have tried to instinctively wiggle and writhe away from captor's grip.

13) Camera angle made it impossible to see if Berg's eyes were even open.

14) Alleged "scream" from Berg sounded to be that of a woman and was clearly
dubbed in.

15) Berg goes to great trouble to identify himself, providing information
about his family. Why? To elicit greater sympathy? Or to provide a
positive ID. FBI visited Berg family in an attempt to "verify his
identity". Guy in video looks very little like Berg photos provided by
family.

I believe that Berg (or this lookalike character) was first killed (perhaps
by lethal injection, poisoning, etc.), then decapitated after dead (explains
lack of blood spraying everywhere). Berg was killed by Al-Quaeda (known to
be a CIA - Mossad joint venture). Berg video released at height of furor
over U.S. torture of Iraqis and just before Bush was to decide whether to
release additional torture videos. Now torture videos will be witheld from
public for reasons of national security. Now "patriots" everywhere will
laud the virtues of U.S. torture of "enemies". Sensitivity level of public
gets heightened in terms of what's acceptable treatment of prisoners.
Juxtaposed with decapitation, piling naked men into pyramid is nothing.
Such treatment will be considered more and more acceptable even in domestic
situations. George W. Bush sleeps well tonight while Berg family lives in
torture. Serves Berg's father right for opposing Bush and the war of
aggression against Iraq.
Posted 20 years ago2004-05-16 11:02:32 UTC Post #27272
i hope what oyu say is thrue
Posted 20 years ago2004-05-16 18:20:37 UTC Post #27298
Unbelievably this you sound absolutelly right, Jahzel. If you watch this and compare it with the video "Russian gets killed by chechenians" you'll notice the extreme diffirence. It's a political move made by the US and may be Bush himself to slur over the sins of the troopers.
Posted 20 years ago2004-05-17 01:53:57 UTC Post #27323
Agree with what you've said with the sole exception of "by Al-Quaeda (known to be a CIA - Mossad joint venture)".
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
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