Journal #5224

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-02 00:18:01 UTC
Luke LukeLuke
I just watched Michael Moore's "Sicko", and I'm kinda pissed off.

If in the next 5 - 8 years the U.S. doesn't get nationalized health care or a national free college education system, I'm really thinking about moving to the UK.

I mean, we're 60 years behind Great Britain, France, and Canada, and I just don't see how hard it is to get on their level.

I knew we were this far behind, but just seeing this reminder made me think about how bad it was.

Somehow I knew I was born in the wrong country. Too many fucktards here, and it's starting to annoy the fuck out of me.

This is a good development for me, though, because it's just another reason for me to move to the UK. I wanted to do it, anyhow.

20 Comments

Commented 16 years ago2008-08-02 00:46:26 UTC Comment #39839
I've honestly been thinking the same thing for awhile. Wanted to go to the UK myself in fact.
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-02 00:48:47 UTC Comment #39828
Come to Australia instead.
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-02 01:31:29 UTC Comment #39835
i don't know about health care, but university in australia certainly isn't free, strider, so that's not a good response
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-02 02:25:06 UTC Comment #39838
And our counrty is trying really hard to be like the U.S. We have almost 400 cockends leading this tiny country, and as of this year, the university here isn't free aswell. The prices are unfairly high compared to the minimum wage, or even compared to the average payments.

I would prefer UK aswell, but Austria is much closer and it's 100x better, than this shithole.
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-02 02:52:28 UTC Comment #39832
our government heavily subsidises our uni fees though, pb. at least in victoria...
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-02 03:15:41 UTC Comment #39829
So what Pb, I'm just telling them to come to Aus instead of the UK!
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-02 03:46:32 UTC Comment #39836
well yeah, europe sucks.
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-02 03:55:25 UTC Comment #39840
I miss living in Australia.
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-02 07:32:58 UTC Comment #39834
Although IEMC in the UK would be fucking awesome, I do have to point out that Michael Moore himself is an asshole. He probably thinks America genetically engineered the AIDs virus and sent it to Africa because they never sent them a christmas card, and i know you're not stupid enough to be bought over by his bullshit, so I know the truth.
You're just coming to the UK so you can be part of the CrazyWeek system.
Don't worry, I won't tell anyone :3
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-02 11:40:16 UTC Comment #39843
Go Spain and marry me
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-02 13:41:10 UTC Comment #39830
Australia would be pretty awesome, too.

Free education might be a push, though, as I still don't know if any countries do it other than France (no way in hell am I moving to France).

Any westernized country with some sense looks better than the U.S., right now, anyways.

Somehow when I get around to going to the UK, I don't think CrazyWeek will even exist anymore. And if it does, someone is gonna need a life :P
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-02 15:47:51 UTC Comment #39827
The Netherlands! Enjoy our flat country and cycle safely all you want! Oh, and a great way to intercept Hunteh when he's passing by to the nothern countries:).
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-02 16:29:44 UTC Comment #39844
"Free education might be a push, though, as I still don't know if any countries do it other than France (no way in hell am I moving to France)."

Almost all european countries have free education.

In Spain, public education is better than the private one, the private education is made for religious snobs.

The public university is way better than the private. People on the private are there because they haven't got enough mark to go to the public one.

Don't know how is it on USA, but that's how it works here.
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-02 16:52:34 UTC Comment #39831
When referring to free education, I'm talking about after high school (not sure if it's called the same thing over there, either).

Like, I know public schools is just school for basically kids that everyone pays for through taxes, but I want a country that pays for ALL of your education, like at university level.

Of course I won't take advantage of that unless I want to get a PhD in whatever there, as I am only going after I complete college.

I just don't want to be in a country full of morons.
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-02 17:25:47 UTC Comment #39845
No country pays all of your education, but public university costs less than 1000 ? each year, private costs more than 6000 ?.

Then there're other kind of studies called FP, that aren't university, I don't know how you call them. It costs 100 ? each year.
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-02 20:01:07 UTC Comment #39837
at my uni you pay for each course you do, but there's a system where the government pays for you and it comes out of your taxes or whatever once you earn over a certain amount each year.
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-03 02:09:23 UTC Comment #39833
yeah uni is mostly payed for by our govt and we just pay fees back once we start earning a reasonable income.

high school is certainly not free though... school fees n shit. at least at my school.
Commented 16 years ago2008-08-05 09:55:19 UTC Comment #39842
1. Canada isn't a real country. (you'd in reality be moving from the US to the Northern Territories of the US...) : D

2. Some US states do pay for your education (California public Colleges are free and Florida pays your way if you get decent grades... or so i've heard) and/or give you very low interest loans (federal and state) for school.

If you're poor in many states, you get grants (not loans) for Full Education costs + Room & Board.

3. The Netherlands sounds like a cool place to go; you just have to learn Dutch and ask Pepper if he has a spare room to rent. = )

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Commented 16 years ago2008-08-12 18:05:05 UTC Comment #39841
Canada isn't a real country - didn't like that one.

What amazes us is that the States is willing to spend over a trillion dollars to blow up a 3rd world country.

Just think what that money could have been used for - you could have rebuilt your entire health care system into a publically funded system, you could pick your own doctor, you could walk into any hospital emergency room and not just the one that belongs to your insurance company, there's not paper work to fill out - you hand them your health card and when your visit or hospital stay it over you just walk out and don't have to worry about anything.

Just think aboout it - it's a more effecient service, you would end up pumping millions of dollars into the US economy, you would actually become a more healthy nation instead of a cost saving / liability item on some insurance companies income statement. The healthcare industry in Canada is a huge injection of cash in the economy here - thousands are employed in it. In Toronto, where I live, we have a huge hospital- SunnyBrook- (one of serveral) - it's the largest in Canada and they have serval specialty areas - Cancer, heart, emergency helicopter trauma unit, etc.

Think about it this way:

You NEED health care, PROPER health care. You DESERVE proper health care. You and your family is ENTITLED proper healthcare.

Health Insurance Companies EARN their profits by NOT PROVIDING it and want to take away the above from you - if they could charge you and never pay anything - they would be absolutely happy.

We don't understand how your doctor's can morally say to someone - I have the cure, I can fix you up and make you better - but unfortunately - you don't have insurance. I'm sorry.

18,000 people a year die in the States because of no health care, you have the highest infant mortality rates in the western world because of no health care and one of the highest obesity rates in the world.

Tell your politicians to fix the problem - YOU ARE THE GOVERNMENT, OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE and BY THE PEOPLE - not the people for the profit of the insurance company.

that's my 2 cents - lol

p.s. you can also do it more cost effectively than us because you are a smaller country with a larger population base - our country is huge and some health centers (i.e. a village or location that provides halthcare) can be 8 hours away by car - I'm not kidding in some places you can drive for 6 hours straight and not see a sinlge car - no one lives there eitherso there's no help - it's complete wilderness which is another reason the government funnded program works - no insurance company would fund a hospital or clinc that has a population base of 280 or less like some of out villages do - but they do have free medical clinics.
Commented 14 years ago2009-11-08 17:07:34 UTC Comment #39846
"I just don't want to be in a country full of morons."
I don't think there is a country on this planet not full of morons :P

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