Yeah I actually fixed both those things before u posted those two pointers I just didn't see the point in making a proper sky at that point in time because I hadn't finished the map. I scaled the cracks to normal size as well but thanks for your input. The r_speeds are still shite but they have improved, by the way, do you think you could get it to not lag? As in, get fps to about 40, wpoly to about 1000, & epoly to 0?