As I understand it, they'll show the entire duration of the game.
But to me, watching people play golf on TV is cruel and unusual torture.
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you dont believe a big omnipotent white man in the sky made everything.You mean Bill Gates?
I am actually a friend of nickelplate. I've known him for a few years at SnarkPit, and I know he's a decent and intelligent man.
He has presented a distorted version of himself at this thread. I played along, since I already know him. There are definitely differences in our opinions, especially in the arena of religious faith.
Unfortunately, most of us here don't have the benefit of knowing him before this thread.
Somehow, I have a knack of stirring up controversy, whether it's intended or not.
He has presented a distorted version of himself at this thread. I played along, since I already know him. There are definitely differences in our opinions, especially in the arena of religious faith.
Unfortunately, most of us here don't have the benefit of knowing him before this thread.
Somehow, I have a knack of stirring up controversy, whether it's intended or not.
Deathmatches are suppose to be primal, simple, and fast. It doesn't need fancy graphics or gameplay. All it requires is fast reflexes and quick thinking.
That's why the classic games pwn all the new ones.
That's why the classic games pwn all the new ones.
LA Times again...
Upland Home Hid Cache of Guns
Nearly 900 weapons are discovered when police, seeking firearms used in shootings, raid home of a retired Army officer.
By Lance Pugmire
Times Staff Writer
April 19, 2006
Authorities announced Tuesday that they discovered nearly 900 firearms hidden in secret panels, under floors and behind walls in an upscale home in the foothills of Upland.
A team of federal, state and local police raided the house Friday as part of an investigation into a man accused of wounding his wife and a Glendora police officer during shooting incidents in February and last month.
Inside the home, authorities found assault weapons, submachine guns, automatic rifles, explosive devices and other weapons, said Shirley Lesslak, a Department of Justice special agent supervisor.
A wine cellar had been converted into a makeshift weapons storage area and shooting range, Lesslak said.
Authorities arrested the homeowner, Robert Ferro, 61, a retired Army Special Forces officer, accusing him of running a huge black-market gun business out of the home at the end of cul-de-sac.
The San Bernardino County district attorney filed eight felony counts against Ferro on Monday, including possession of a firearm by a felon, possession of a destructive device, possession of a silencer and possession of a deadly weapon.
In the early 1990s, Ferro made headlines after he was accused of running a paramilitary camp on a Pomona chicken ranch that was dedicated to the overthrow of Cuban leader Fidel Castro. At the ranch, authorities found 5 pounds of C-4, a putty-like explosive. He was convicted of possession of illegal explosives in 1992 and sentenced to two years in prison.
Detectives said they were stunned when they entered Ferro's house and came across the wide array of guns.
"We went there looking for two guns," said Det. Joe Rodriguez of the Glendora Police Department. "We didn't expect to find more than 800. It was quite out of anyone's grasp. We are still trying to comprehend it."
Rodriguez said he and his colleagues uncovered weapons wherever they looked ? behind framed paintings, thermometers and mirrors, inside hollowed-out walls of closets and under the staircase.
Detectives gave two taps to a bookcase and it opened up to reveal more weapons, Rodriguez said.
They said they found some of the most powerful firearms ? Uzis and AK-47s ? in the master bathroom and bedroom, behind clothing and plywood.
"The majority of the guns had fully loaded magazines," Rodriguez said, adding that the makeshift shooting range in the basement appeared to have been used recently.
Authorities believe those who used the range attached silencers to their weapons to avoid tipping off neighbors.
Residents on Tapia Way described Ferro as a friendly neighbor who had several children and who had lived on the street at least 16 years. They said they had no idea that hundreds of guns were hidden throughout his house.
"He seemed to be a normal family man," said Douglas Null, a neighbor about four houses away. "Nothing ever goes on around here. It's very surprising."
Neighbor Bill Applebee, 69, said Ferro helped him fix a plumbing problem at his home and that Ferro's wife routinely drives their son and Applebee's granddaughter to Upland High School.
Ferro's large white stucco home has a U.S. flag hanging from its eaves and seven cars, including a Rolls-Royce, parked outside, one with an Army Special Forces license plate frame. Applebee said Ferro told him he had served in Vietnam.
In the early 1990s, Ferro, a Cuban immigrant, became something of a cause c?l?bre after his arrest. Prosecutors accused him of using the explosives to train Mexicans to overthrow Castro. His attorney denied that Ferro did anything wrong and said his client was a patriot with a distinguished military career, including volunteering for Operation Skyhook, a private effort to rescue missing servicemen believed held in Vietnam.
Neither Ferro, who was being held at San Bernardino County Jail on $5-million bail, nor his attorney could be reached for comment Tuesday.
Will Telish, an assistant special agent with the Department of Justice's Bureau of Narcotic Enforcement, said authorities believed Ferro sold the guns, other weapons and equipment at local swap meets and at an "appointment-only" antiques shop he owns in Upland.
"Lots of these [purchases] were done by word of mouth on the street, like how narcotics are trafficked," Telish said.
"You sell them on the black market ? like selling purses out a trunk," Rodriguez said.
Authorities began investigating Ferro because of his association with Frank Fidel Beltran, who was arrested on suspicion of shooting a police officer who was responding to a domestic disturbance at Beltran's Glendora home Feb. 10. The officer suffered a wound to the hand.
Beltran, who evaded capture for nearly a month, also is accused of shooting his wife eight times a few weeks later. That shooting occurred on a San Dimas street, where he apparently had been following her car.
"She noticed him and tried to get away," Los Angeles County sheriff's spokesman Sgt. David Vega said. "He chased her down after she crashed into a curb and started blasting her."
Beltran fired 20 shots and fled, police say. His wife remains hospitalized.
Beltran, 36, was arrested a few days later at a home in Rancho Cucamonga owned by Ferro. It is unclear why Beltran was at the home. Authorities believe Ferro provided Beltran with his weapons, Telish said.
Telish said authorities were conducting tests to establish whether any of the guns at the Ferro home matched those used in the shootings Beltran is accused of.
Upland Home Hid Cache of Guns
Nearly 900 weapons are discovered when police, seeking firearms used in shootings, raid home of a retired Army officer.
By Lance Pugmire
Times Staff Writer
April 19, 2006
Authorities announced Tuesday that they discovered nearly 900 firearms hidden in secret panels, under floors and behind walls in an upscale home in the foothills of Upland.
A team of federal, state and local police raided the house Friday as part of an investigation into a man accused of wounding his wife and a Glendora police officer during shooting incidents in February and last month.
Inside the home, authorities found assault weapons, submachine guns, automatic rifles, explosive devices and other weapons, said Shirley Lesslak, a Department of Justice special agent supervisor.
A wine cellar had been converted into a makeshift weapons storage area and shooting range, Lesslak said.
Authorities arrested the homeowner, Robert Ferro, 61, a retired Army Special Forces officer, accusing him of running a huge black-market gun business out of the home at the end of cul-de-sac.
The San Bernardino County district attorney filed eight felony counts against Ferro on Monday, including possession of a firearm by a felon, possession of a destructive device, possession of a silencer and possession of a deadly weapon.
In the early 1990s, Ferro made headlines after he was accused of running a paramilitary camp on a Pomona chicken ranch that was dedicated to the overthrow of Cuban leader Fidel Castro. At the ranch, authorities found 5 pounds of C-4, a putty-like explosive. He was convicted of possession of illegal explosives in 1992 and sentenced to two years in prison.
Detectives said they were stunned when they entered Ferro's house and came across the wide array of guns.
"We went there looking for two guns," said Det. Joe Rodriguez of the Glendora Police Department. "We didn't expect to find more than 800. It was quite out of anyone's grasp. We are still trying to comprehend it."
Rodriguez said he and his colleagues uncovered weapons wherever they looked ? behind framed paintings, thermometers and mirrors, inside hollowed-out walls of closets and under the staircase.
Detectives gave two taps to a bookcase and it opened up to reveal more weapons, Rodriguez said.
They said they found some of the most powerful firearms ? Uzis and AK-47s ? in the master bathroom and bedroom, behind clothing and plywood.
"The majority of the guns had fully loaded magazines," Rodriguez said, adding that the makeshift shooting range in the basement appeared to have been used recently.
Authorities believe those who used the range attached silencers to their weapons to avoid tipping off neighbors.
Residents on Tapia Way described Ferro as a friendly neighbor who had several children and who had lived on the street at least 16 years. They said they had no idea that hundreds of guns were hidden throughout his house.
"He seemed to be a normal family man," said Douglas Null, a neighbor about four houses away. "Nothing ever goes on around here. It's very surprising."
Neighbor Bill Applebee, 69, said Ferro helped him fix a plumbing problem at his home and that Ferro's wife routinely drives their son and Applebee's granddaughter to Upland High School.
Ferro's large white stucco home has a U.S. flag hanging from its eaves and seven cars, including a Rolls-Royce, parked outside, one with an Army Special Forces license plate frame. Applebee said Ferro told him he had served in Vietnam.
In the early 1990s, Ferro, a Cuban immigrant, became something of a cause c?l?bre after his arrest. Prosecutors accused him of using the explosives to train Mexicans to overthrow Castro. His attorney denied that Ferro did anything wrong and said his client was a patriot with a distinguished military career, including volunteering for Operation Skyhook, a private effort to rescue missing servicemen believed held in Vietnam.
Neither Ferro, who was being held at San Bernardino County Jail on $5-million bail, nor his attorney could be reached for comment Tuesday.
Will Telish, an assistant special agent with the Department of Justice's Bureau of Narcotic Enforcement, said authorities believed Ferro sold the guns, other weapons and equipment at local swap meets and at an "appointment-only" antiques shop he owns in Upland.
"Lots of these [purchases] were done by word of mouth on the street, like how narcotics are trafficked," Telish said.
"You sell them on the black market ? like selling purses out a trunk," Rodriguez said.
Authorities began investigating Ferro because of his association with Frank Fidel Beltran, who was arrested on suspicion of shooting a police officer who was responding to a domestic disturbance at Beltran's Glendora home Feb. 10. The officer suffered a wound to the hand.
Beltran, who evaded capture for nearly a month, also is accused of shooting his wife eight times a few weeks later. That shooting occurred on a San Dimas street, where he apparently had been following her car.
"She noticed him and tried to get away," Los Angeles County sheriff's spokesman Sgt. David Vega said. "He chased her down after she crashed into a curb and started blasting her."
Beltran fired 20 shots and fled, police say. His wife remains hospitalized.
Beltran, 36, was arrested a few days later at a home in Rancho Cucamonga owned by Ferro. It is unclear why Beltran was at the home. Authorities believe Ferro provided Beltran with his weapons, Telish said.
Telish said authorities were conducting tests to establish whether any of the guns at the Ferro home matched those used in the shootings Beltran is accused of.
JESUS LOVES YOU!!!And I love Jesus...in his ass.
nickelplate, you can have sex with your three-year-old daughter, since it would gratify her sexual urges. I would raise mine without the sex until she's ready.
Masturbation does not equate to sex. Children enjoy their parents reading to them at bedtime too, does that mean they lust after their mommies?
When children masturbate, they do it for the physical pleasure. They don't associate that with any sexual feelings. It just plainly feels good.
I do hope you can distinguish between the two.
When children masturbate, they do it for the physical pleasure. They don't associate that with any sexual feelings. It just plainly feels good.
I do hope you can distinguish between the two.
I don't know too much about those water fowls beyond their tendency for life-long bounds.
From the Los Angeles Times:
Video Games Get TV Showcase
From the Associated Press
April 18, 2006
SAN JOSE ? Professional video gaming is set to debut on cable television this year, potentially paving the way for the reigning game players to become as familiar to American households as the faces of Johnny Chan or Annie Duke in televised poker.
Major League Gaming, the world's largest organized video game league, on Monday announced a programming deal in which USA Network will air seven one-hour episodes in the fall featuring the pro circuit.
Although video gaming fans have been able to follow competitions on game websites for years, the league's television deal marks the first time regular TV viewers would be able to track the ups and downs of a pro tournament, watching video gaming as a new kind of extreme sport.
"This is the sign that pro gaming has finally arrived to the mass market," said Matthew Bromberg, the league's president and chief operating officer. "It's like poker was two years ago or NASCAR 15 years ago."
The televised series will aim to engage viewers with not only the game play itself ? featuring top players of Halo 2 on Xbox and Super Smash Bros. Melee on Nintendo ? but also sports-style commentary and player profiles.
Among them: Bonnie Burton, also known as Xena, a 15-year-old Pennsylvanian who is the only female in the pro league and one of the best Halo 2 players in the world; and Tom Taylor, who's known as Tsquared. The 18-year-old from Florida is a budding entrepreneur whose Gaming-Lessons business has helped hone the game skills of numerous celebrities and athletes.
"I'm excited to compete on TV in front of an audience. This will take video gaming to the next level," Taylor said.
Taylor, who gained more fame by being featured on MTV's documentary series "True Life," takes his sport seriously. He keeps a healthy diet and practices three to four hours a day.
"It is an extreme sport," he said. "It's about quick reflexes and also outsmarting people."
Some top players earn winnings in the range of a couple of hundred thousand dollars a year, and the league's tournaments usually draw thousands of spectators at its arena venues and thousands more online, said Michael Sepso, the league's chief executive and co-founder.
But going before a mainstream TV audience could raise video gaming's visibility, leading to more sponsorships and advertising.
Video Games Get TV Showcase
From the Associated Press
April 18, 2006
SAN JOSE ? Professional video gaming is set to debut on cable television this year, potentially paving the way for the reigning game players to become as familiar to American households as the faces of Johnny Chan or Annie Duke in televised poker.
Major League Gaming, the world's largest organized video game league, on Monday announced a programming deal in which USA Network will air seven one-hour episodes in the fall featuring the pro circuit.
Although video gaming fans have been able to follow competitions on game websites for years, the league's television deal marks the first time regular TV viewers would be able to track the ups and downs of a pro tournament, watching video gaming as a new kind of extreme sport.
"This is the sign that pro gaming has finally arrived to the mass market," said Matthew Bromberg, the league's president and chief operating officer. "It's like poker was two years ago or NASCAR 15 years ago."
The televised series will aim to engage viewers with not only the game play itself ? featuring top players of Halo 2 on Xbox and Super Smash Bros. Melee on Nintendo ? but also sports-style commentary and player profiles.
Among them: Bonnie Burton, also known as Xena, a 15-year-old Pennsylvanian who is the only female in the pro league and one of the best Halo 2 players in the world; and Tom Taylor, who's known as Tsquared. The 18-year-old from Florida is a budding entrepreneur whose Gaming-Lessons business has helped hone the game skills of numerous celebrities and athletes.
"I'm excited to compete on TV in front of an audience. This will take video gaming to the next level," Taylor said.
Taylor, who gained more fame by being featured on MTV's documentary series "True Life," takes his sport seriously. He keeps a healthy diet and practices three to four hours a day.
"It is an extreme sport," he said. "It's about quick reflexes and also outsmarting people."
Some top players earn winnings in the range of a couple of hundred thousand dollars a year, and the league's tournaments usually draw thousands of spectators at its arena venues and thousands more online, said Michael Sepso, the league's chief executive and co-founder.
But going before a mainstream TV audience could raise video gaming's visibility, leading to more sponsorships and advertising.
You guys watch too much "Star Trek".
And you are being too optimistic, in my opinion.
Adulthood has transformed me from an idealist to a cynic. Everyone is greedy (except my wife), and everyone is inherently selfish (again, except my wife).
And you are being too optimistic, in my opinion.
Adulthood has transformed me from an idealist to a cynic. Everyone is greedy (except my wife), and everyone is inherently selfish (again, except my wife).
That's why world peace can never be achieved.
It can only exist in the small world of beauty pageantry.
It can only exist in the small world of beauty pageantry.
There's not a religion besides voodoo and Satanism that says to kill other people.Very true, except that real people use religion to justify their acts of atrocity all the time.
Since we can't change these people (religion certainly has failed), we might as well remove religion so that they cannot use it as a tool of terror.
I am not affiliated with any religion, yet I tend to favor Buddhism. It's very rare to hear about a Buddhist terrorist. Muslim and Christian terrorists are everywhere, however. In the history of Buddhism, there has never been a crusade or mass terrorism.
So is certain religion to blame for the suffering and hatred in this world? You tell me.
As previously stated, the distinction is in whether people are harmed by it.
Homosexuality in itself never hurts anyone, and don't mention AIDS. Because if you do, then anyone who has ever had sex and STD should be branded as sinners and be damned to hell by religious fanatics.
Religion, on the other hand, has killed millions of people. It has its good sides too, but as long as religion exists on this planet, world peace would be impossible.
In my opinion, religion does way too much harm than good. True, it's abused by bad and ignorant people, but the result is the same.
Without religious differences, we would have so much less hatred in humanity.
Homosexuality in itself never hurts anyone, and don't mention AIDS. Because if you do, then anyone who has ever had sex and STD should be branded as sinners and be damned to hell by religious fanatics.
Religion, on the other hand, has killed millions of people. It has its good sides too, but as long as religion exists on this planet, world peace would be impossible.
In my opinion, religion does way too much harm than good. True, it's abused by bad and ignorant people, but the result is the same.
Without religious differences, we would have so much less hatred in humanity.
Sorry to hear about your brother, LeFtY.
Even though I don't have any close friends who are gay, I feel strongly about their plight. I just can't stand the injustice of it all.
Has anyone seen "Brokeback Mountain" yet? It's a great movie. Don't listen to the religious fanatics attempts at censoring it.
Even though I don't have any close friends who are gay, I feel strongly about their plight. I just can't stand the injustice of it all.
Has anyone seen "Brokeback Mountain" yet? It's a great movie. Don't listen to the religious fanatics attempts at censoring it.
whereas animals sho this odd type of affection to thier current partner and then move on.For water fowls, all of them are monogamous. In fact, the Chinese chose a type of water fowl to represent the ultimate symbol of fidelity. If the mate dies, the other mate dies too.
Looking at the current state of divorce and infidelity, humans have much to learn from these animals.
I guess we shouldn't try to convince the rest of the world of their narrow-mindedness. They will not change their minds.
We'll just have to wait fifty years, when they finally realize (in their retirement homes) just how wrong they were.
There are also plenty of examples of homosexual behavior in animals, especially among primates.
So how did these animals escape the lay person's superficial understanding of natural selection? Are there truly no evolutionary advantage of homosexuality?
Fraternities and sororities...are they just closet faggots who can't bring themselves to admit that they're really gay deep down inside?
When you drop the religious "blind faith" argument, nothing else holds up to scientific and logical scrutiny.
People who cannot accept homosexuality are just as narrow minded as those who cannot accept other ethnicity or gender. They are no better.
So how did these animals escape the lay person's superficial understanding of natural selection? Are there truly no evolutionary advantage of homosexuality?
Fraternities and sororities...are they just closet faggots who can't bring themselves to admit that they're really gay deep down inside?
When you drop the religious "blind faith" argument, nothing else holds up to scientific and logical scrutiny.
People who cannot accept homosexuality are just as narrow minded as those who cannot accept other ethnicity or gender. They are no better.
"Scrubs", "Grey's Anatomy", "e.r."...they're all about the residency experience. The first one is about internal medicine, the second one about surgery, and the third one...obviously about emergency medicine.
It's the most interesting period of my life. Most rewarding, physically exhausting, and emotionally wrenching at the same time.
That's why they're made into T.V. shows.
It's the most interesting period of my life. Most rewarding, physically exhausting, and emotionally wrenching at the same time.
That's why they're made into T.V. shows.
This debate has already been put to rest at the U.S. Supreme Court, which forbade anyone with mental illness be punished by death.
For nickleplate, here are some additional examples of altruism in the animal kingdom, with detailed explanation on why such behavioral pattern is favored in natural selection. My specialty in biology is molecular evolution, so this is what I spent four years studying in university.
Not all mutations are bad, I guess. I can't think of any good ones, but I don't know for sure that they don't exist.Without mutations, the Earth would still be populated by single-cell organisms swimming in a pool of water. Human beings are the result of mutations. It did take millions of years, but that's how it happened.
Unless you don't think human beings are special or extraordinary, you would respect the role of mutation played in our own evolution.
And if you're willing to get down to the nitty-gritty technical calculation, here is the scientific and mathematical proof that demonstrates why altruistic genes survived thousands of years of evolution, despite the apparent initial paradox.
And here is the less mathematical but more philosophical approach to the same answer.
I agree with not executing this guy (as I said previously), but I would keep him locked up. Would you sleep at night knowing this person lives next door? Even if he's on medication?
Any other organism would never do anything like this. Why?This is when you have to admit your limited knowledge of biology, nickleplate. There are numerous examples of altruism in the animal kingdom. In fact, for primates, it's more of the rule rather than the exception. If animals, guided by purely instinct, behave altruistically, there must be some inherent biological advantage to justify our seemingly superior human interactions.
I believe homosexuality is just as genetic-based as male-pattern baldness. This may be hard for some people to accept, just as it was difficult for people to accept that women should have the same rights as men, that they weren't a "weaker" gender. But time has changed, and I am hoping the rest of the world would see the light eventually. Some of us are just more progressive than others.
I graduated top of my class majoring in biology at the university, so I dare say that I know more about biology than anyone here at TWHL.
During my pediatric residency, my calendar for the entire year was planned in advance. So I know exactly where I'd be at any time for the rest of the year.
I always thought that was strange.
I always thought that was strange.
The benefit is that you can share the calendar with your friends, and you can access your calendar from anywhere.
I don't think you can fix a mind like that.
It's probably safest for everyone to lock him up forever.
It's probably safest for everyone to lock him up forever.
The man accused of killing a 10-year-old neighbor girl for an elaborate plan to eat human flesh joked about cannibalism on his online diary, discussed the effects of not taking his anti-depression medication and mentioned "dangerously weird" fantasies.
All he wanted in life, Kevin Ray Underwood wrote in his blog, was "to be able to live like a normal person."
People who knew Underwood described him Sunday as a quiet, "boring" and seemingly trustworthy young man. His mother who lived across town called him a "wonderful boy."
The 26-year-old grocery store stocker was arrested Friday. Investigators searched his apartment after he aroused their suspicions at a checkpoint, and found a large plastic tub in a bedroom closet. According to a police affidavit, he confessed that he killed Jamie Rose Bolin, telling FBI agents: "Go ahead and arrest me. She is in there. I chopped her up."
Jamie's unclothed body was inside the tub, along with a towel used to soak up blood, officials said. Police said that, while there were deep saw marks on the girl's neck, she had not been dismembered.
"Regarding a potential motive," Purcell Police Chief David Tompkins said Saturday, "this appears to have been part of a plan to kidnap a person, rape them, torture them, kill them, cut off their head, drain the body of blood, rape the corpse, eat the corpse then dispose of the organs and bones."
Investigators found meat tenderizer and barbecue skewers that he planned to use on the body, McClain County District Attorney Tim Kuykendall said in this small community 40 miles south of Oklahoma City.
Underwood, who is to be formally charged with first-degree murder Monday, lived alone in an apartment downstairs from the one where Jamie lived with her father.
Authorities believe Underwood killed the girl Wednesday, when she disappeared after going to a library, by beating and smothering her.
Underwood's family was shocked.
"This is something that I don't know where it came from," Underwood's mother, Connie, said through tears in a brief telephone interview Sunday with The Associated Press. "He was always a wonderful boy.
"I would like to be able to tell her family how sorry we are. I just feel so terrible."
On his blog, an online diary that he had kept since September 2002, Underwood described himself as "single, bored, and lonely, but other than that, pretty happy."
He mentions cannibalism, asking "If you were a cannibal, what would you wear to dinner?" and responding: "The skin of last night's main course."
In an entry dated Feb. 4, 2006, Underwood wrote that he struggled with depression and social interaction.
"Pretty much the only time I believe in God is when I blame him for something," he said. "Or, when I'm really depressed, to cry and beg him to make me better, to make whatever is wrong in my brain go away, so that I can live like a normal person.
"That's all I want in life, is to be able to live like a normal person."
He wrote that he rarely left his apartment for long stretches, except to go to work and to buy food. "I just sit here at the computer every minute of the day, when I'm not at work. A week or so ago, I spent my day off sitting here at the computer, barely moving from the chair, for 14 hours."
He said one of his main interests was the online role-playing game "Kingdom of Loathing," in which stick figures battle one another.
In September 2004, he wrote that his depression deepened after several months without taking the medication Lexapro, an antidepressant also used in the treatment of anxiety disorders.
"For example, my fantasies are just getting weirder and weirder. Dangerously weird," he wrote. "If people knew the kinds of things I think about anymore, I'd probably be locked away. No probably about it, I know I would be."
Underwood worked for nearly seven years at a Carl's Jr. restaurant, where shift leader Bill Verdan described him as a quiet person who kept to himself. "He did a good job," Verdan said Sunday.
However, he said Underwood, who quit about a year ago, was a "boring" man who rarely smiled.
"Just his tone of voice, he just sounded dull," Verdan said. "Trying to get a smile out of him took an act of Congress."
Verdan said he and his wife and young daughters never suspected anything unusual.
"He gave my wife rides home from work numerous times," Verdan said. "We never felt uncomfortable. I talked to my girls after this happened, and they said they felt comfortable around him."
His most recent job was as a stocker at a Griders Discount Foods grocery store in Oklahoma City, where he arrived early for his shift Friday, said a manager at the store, Jerry Castro.
"He was the same as always," Castro said. "He was quiet and kept to himself. He didn't interact with people. It just didn't dawn on you that this was something he'd do."
All he wanted in life, Kevin Ray Underwood wrote in his blog, was "to be able to live like a normal person."
People who knew Underwood described him Sunday as a quiet, "boring" and seemingly trustworthy young man. His mother who lived across town called him a "wonderful boy."
The 26-year-old grocery store stocker was arrested Friday. Investigators searched his apartment after he aroused their suspicions at a checkpoint, and found a large plastic tub in a bedroom closet. According to a police affidavit, he confessed that he killed Jamie Rose Bolin, telling FBI agents: "Go ahead and arrest me. She is in there. I chopped her up."
Jamie's unclothed body was inside the tub, along with a towel used to soak up blood, officials said. Police said that, while there were deep saw marks on the girl's neck, she had not been dismembered.
"Regarding a potential motive," Purcell Police Chief David Tompkins said Saturday, "this appears to have been part of a plan to kidnap a person, rape them, torture them, kill them, cut off their head, drain the body of blood, rape the corpse, eat the corpse then dispose of the organs and bones."
Investigators found meat tenderizer and barbecue skewers that he planned to use on the body, McClain County District Attorney Tim Kuykendall said in this small community 40 miles south of Oklahoma City.
Underwood, who is to be formally charged with first-degree murder Monday, lived alone in an apartment downstairs from the one where Jamie lived with her father.
Authorities believe Underwood killed the girl Wednesday, when she disappeared after going to a library, by beating and smothering her.
Underwood's family was shocked.
"This is something that I don't know where it came from," Underwood's mother, Connie, said through tears in a brief telephone interview Sunday with The Associated Press. "He was always a wonderful boy.
"I would like to be able to tell her family how sorry we are. I just feel so terrible."
On his blog, an online diary that he had kept since September 2002, Underwood described himself as "single, bored, and lonely, but other than that, pretty happy."
He mentions cannibalism, asking "If you were a cannibal, what would you wear to dinner?" and responding: "The skin of last night's main course."
In an entry dated Feb. 4, 2006, Underwood wrote that he struggled with depression and social interaction.
"Pretty much the only time I believe in God is when I blame him for something," he said. "Or, when I'm really depressed, to cry and beg him to make me better, to make whatever is wrong in my brain go away, so that I can live like a normal person.
"That's all I want in life, is to be able to live like a normal person."
He wrote that he rarely left his apartment for long stretches, except to go to work and to buy food. "I just sit here at the computer every minute of the day, when I'm not at work. A week or so ago, I spent my day off sitting here at the computer, barely moving from the chair, for 14 hours."
He said one of his main interests was the online role-playing game "Kingdom of Loathing," in which stick figures battle one another.
In September 2004, he wrote that his depression deepened after several months without taking the medication Lexapro, an antidepressant also used in the treatment of anxiety disorders.
"For example, my fantasies are just getting weirder and weirder. Dangerously weird," he wrote. "If people knew the kinds of things I think about anymore, I'd probably be locked away. No probably about it, I know I would be."
Underwood worked for nearly seven years at a Carl's Jr. restaurant, where shift leader Bill Verdan described him as a quiet person who kept to himself. "He did a good job," Verdan said Sunday.
However, he said Underwood, who quit about a year ago, was a "boring" man who rarely smiled.
"Just his tone of voice, he just sounded dull," Verdan said. "Trying to get a smile out of him took an act of Congress."
Verdan said he and his wife and young daughters never suspected anything unusual.
"He gave my wife rides home from work numerous times," Verdan said. "We never felt uncomfortable. I talked to my girls after this happened, and they said they felt comfortable around him."
His most recent job was as a stocker at a Griders Discount Foods grocery store in Oklahoma City, where he arrived early for his shift Friday, said a manager at the store, Jerry Castro.
"He was the same as always," Castro said. "He was quiet and kept to himself. He didn't interact with people. It just didn't dawn on you that this was something he'd do."
I don't know Garry personally, so I don't know what to expect.
I don't have CS 1.6, and I probably won't get it.
Over the next ten years, everything will switch to Source eventually.
Over the next ten years, everything will switch to Source eventually.
And for the love of god, learn how to speak english.But what if he doesn't love God?
I think it's all about how you label things.
I agree that homosexuality is disadvantageous when it comes to reproduction. It's plainly obvious. But some way, some how, it's a phenomenon that has survived thousands of years, and across species. This practice is not limited to humans--plenty of species in the animal kingdom also exercise homosexual behaviors. From an anthropological and sociological perspective, it may form a stronger social unit, and that may indirectly advance one's survival.
Why do people help their friends when they are in need? It certainly doesn't benefit them in any way (because they don't share the same gene pool). Why do people care for their parents? It's really a drain in their limited time and resources, which could be better spent caring for their offspring and thereby advancing the survival of their own genes.
If evolution and natural selection were that simple and straightforward, it would not take scholars years to understand them, especially when they are applied to such sophisticated organisms such as the human being.
Let's assume that homosexuality is a disease for a moment, but what if there is no cure? Male-patterned baldness is a disease, and it certainly isn't furthering their survival. Yet somehow this condition survived thousands of years of evolution. It has no effective treatment. What should we do then? Should the government prohibit these bald people from getting married? Certainly they are inferior because they are not as attractive as us, who have hair in the right places.
I agree that homosexuality is disadvantageous when it comes to reproduction. It's plainly obvious. But some way, some how, it's a phenomenon that has survived thousands of years, and across species. This practice is not limited to humans--plenty of species in the animal kingdom also exercise homosexual behaviors. From an anthropological and sociological perspective, it may form a stronger social unit, and that may indirectly advance one's survival.
Why do people help their friends when they are in need? It certainly doesn't benefit them in any way (because they don't share the same gene pool). Why do people care for their parents? It's really a drain in their limited time and resources, which could be better spent caring for their offspring and thereby advancing the survival of their own genes.
If evolution and natural selection were that simple and straightforward, it would not take scholars years to understand them, especially when they are applied to such sophisticated organisms such as the human being.
Let's assume that homosexuality is a disease for a moment, but what if there is no cure? Male-patterned baldness is a disease, and it certainly isn't furthering their survival. Yet somehow this condition survived thousands of years of evolution. It has no effective treatment. What should we do then? Should the government prohibit these bald people from getting married? Certainly they are inferior because they are not as attractive as us, who have hair in the right places.
Well, how'd you guys look against a cs:s server? Dedicated offcourse.I don't understand you.
What do they do? Do they like it from behind?
They spent too much time on the shader and the rendering engine and too little effort on mapping.
Mapping is the most important aspect of gameplay, but of course we're biased. We're all mappers here.
Mapping is the most important aspect of gameplay, but of course we're biased. We're all mappers here.
What's a "horn dog"? I think I've heard the term before.I know it's a little belated, but The King sang about a "horndog".
Yeah, except I was not offered the job.
Perhaps I asked too much?
Perhaps I asked too much?
I can only do peds. I don't know how to treat adults.
Gotta go back to bed now. I was tossing and turning, and got up at 3 am. It's 4:30 am now. I have to work later today.
Gotta go back to bed now. I was tossing and turning, and got up at 3 am. It's 4:30 am now. I have to work later today.
Personally I believe that the majority of people on here would rather people wanted to play their maps or view their 'art' rather than making money off of it.But do you think that they would say "Hell no!" if Valve offered money for their maps?
I do agree that there is a great sense of satisfaction when other people play your maps. That's why most of us map. But if a gaming company approached you and offer you a job, would you refuse in the name of "making art"?
I had a rough night. In fact, I announced that I am quitting last night to the director. I had enough of that crap.
I received a complaint from a mother because I didn't act immediately when she told me that her daughter threw up in the waiting room. Instead of dashing to the waiting room and clean up the mess myself immediately, I finished the visit with her daughter and then paged the janitorial service to clean it up. That wasn't good enough for her, so she complained to the department that I lack courtesy and had a bad attitude.
I strife to provide the best medical care with the highest satisfaction from the patients and parents. When they fail to appreciate my effort and come back to bite me in the neck, I have no tolerance for that sort of antic.
Fortunately, I found a new job already, and I am going to start next month.
I received a complaint from a mother because I didn't act immediately when she told me that her daughter threw up in the waiting room. Instead of dashing to the waiting room and clean up the mess myself immediately, I finished the visit with her daughter and then paged the janitorial service to clean it up. That wasn't good enough for her, so she complained to the department that I lack courtesy and had a bad attitude.
I strife to provide the best medical care with the highest satisfaction from the patients and parents. When they fail to appreciate my effort and come back to bite me in the neck, I have no tolerance for that sort of antic.
Fortunately, I found a new job already, and I am going to start next month.
I have that opinion about work, but this is art, there is a massive difference to me.So painters, singers, and film producers should not get paid for making art? They already enjoy what they do, so why should they get paid at all?
So what should we do with gays then? Kill them all?
Overprotective is fine, but not stubborn to the point of going against doctor's advice.
I have to give her the antibiotics because I know if I don't, she'll complain about me with my boss. And I'll get reprimanded for doing the right thing.
So fuck her. I hope her child suffers serious side effect from the medication that she doesn't need. Blame the mother, not the doctor with the good intention.
I have to give her the antibiotics because I know if I don't, she'll complain about me with my boss. And I'll get reprimanded for doing the right thing.
So fuck her. I hope her child suffers serious side effect from the medication that she doesn't need. Blame the mother, not the doctor with the good intention.
Why is this thread in the "General Discussion" section of the forum?
Looks amazing, but the water doesn't reflect the world. It's most blatant in the shots with the cruise ship and the dock.
I used to play FS95. I know it's a long time ago, but I just don't feel it's all that fun flying an airplane around for hours straight. Flying is an endurance test for me. The shorter the flight, the better.
I would much rather shoot people in the head than fly a plane peacefully.
I used to play FS95. I know it's a long time ago, but I just don't feel it's all that fun flying an airplane around for hours straight. Flying is an endurance test for me. The shorter the flight, the better.
I would much rather shoot people in the head than fly a plane peacefully.
Some parents are just not educable.
I told the mother that her daughter does not need antibiotics, because there is no evidence of bacterial infection. But she wouldn't listen.
She's convinced that her child needs antibiotics every time she gets sick, no matter what the cause.
After being a pediatrician for so many years, I just give her the antibiotics, even though it's clearly the wrong thing to do.
From our experience, we know that there are people in the world who are just too stupid and stubborn to be educated. For them, we should give up hope at educating them and let them die from their own stupidity.
I told the mother that her daughter does not need antibiotics, because there is no evidence of bacterial infection. But she wouldn't listen.
She's convinced that her child needs antibiotics every time she gets sick, no matter what the cause.
After being a pediatrician for so many years, I just give her the antibiotics, even though it's clearly the wrong thing to do.
From our experience, we know that there are people in the world who are just too stupid and stubborn to be educated. For them, we should give up hope at educating them and let them die from their own stupidity.
Good for him.
If I had come up with an original idea and it became such a phenomenon, I would try to find a way to profit from it too.
It's all in the capitalistic spirit.
Yes, it's based on greed, but this system is heck a lot better than communism.
No fool would work for the greater good without getting compensated fairly for it. That's why communism only works in theory. It's against human nature.
If I had come up with an original idea and it became such a phenomenon, I would try to find a way to profit from it too.
It's all in the capitalistic spirit.
Yes, it's based on greed, but this system is heck a lot better than communism.
No fool would work for the greater good without getting compensated fairly for it. That's why communism only works in theory. It's against human nature.
Taiwan has a national ID card system since the founding of the nation. You can't get anything done without it. You can't hold a job, can't attend school, can't even start a bank account without the ID.
But just wait for a few years. Us enlightened will be the vanguard of the gay rights movement. We would be viewed as the abolishionists of our time.
As for the extreme right-wing gay-haters...well, we'll let history itself judge them.
But just wait for a few years. Us enlightened will be the vanguard of the gay rights movement. We would be viewed as the abolishionists of our time.
As for the extreme right-wing gay-haters...well, we'll let history itself judge them.
That's the first time I've ever heard of an argument like that. Gay haters are born with the propensity to hate gays. You can argue the same way about racist or sexist people, or even terrorists. They're just born that way. So when they murder minorities and blow up buildings, you can't really hold them responsible. They can't help it. They gotta do it. It's their natural-born instinct.
How ridiculous does that sound?
As for the genetic argument, there are plenty of genetic diseases that are prevalent despite the definite selective advantage against these condition. Why do we still have people with cystic fibrosis, when the gene is in one out of thirty Caucasian? Why do we still have diabetes, when the gene is perhaps one in five? In fact, why do we have ANY genetic disease at all, if natural selection is at work?
Obviously, there must be some advantageous trait to be homosexuals. Perhaps they are more creative. Perhaps they have a better fashion sense. Perhaps if it weren't for the gay Neanderthals, we would still be wearing animal skin skirts and picking our noses with a tree branch (argh!).
I don't know exactly. But arguing that gay people become gay because of their childhood atrocity does not hold up to close examination. I personally know quite a few highly educated and well-adjusted gay people. If anything, my childhood was a lot more tumultuous than theirs. Yet I turned out to be a horn dog with girls.
People who are insecure or brain-washed by religion hate gays, because they're insecure about their own masculinity. Bullies pick on the weak because they're afraid of being called weak themselves.
P.S. Welcome to TWHL, nickelplate. I guess if you can't chat with me at the SnarkPit, you come here instead.
How ridiculous does that sound?
As for the genetic argument, there are plenty of genetic diseases that are prevalent despite the definite selective advantage against these condition. Why do we still have people with cystic fibrosis, when the gene is in one out of thirty Caucasian? Why do we still have diabetes, when the gene is perhaps one in five? In fact, why do we have ANY genetic disease at all, if natural selection is at work?
Obviously, there must be some advantageous trait to be homosexuals. Perhaps they are more creative. Perhaps they have a better fashion sense. Perhaps if it weren't for the gay Neanderthals, we would still be wearing animal skin skirts and picking our noses with a tree branch (argh!).
I don't know exactly. But arguing that gay people become gay because of their childhood atrocity does not hold up to close examination. I personally know quite a few highly educated and well-adjusted gay people. If anything, my childhood was a lot more tumultuous than theirs. Yet I turned out to be a horn dog with girls.
People who are insecure or brain-washed by religion hate gays, because they're insecure about their own masculinity. Bullies pick on the weak because they're afraid of being called weak themselves.
P.S. Welcome to TWHL, nickelplate. I guess if you can't chat with me at the SnarkPit, you come here instead.
Intolerance to milk protein is one thing, but intolerance for other people's sexual preference is another. Condemnation of a group of people based on their sexual preference is an attack on basic human decency.
By the way, I thought the word "hubris" is the best single-word to describe the typical American disposition.
By the way, I thought the word "hubris" is the best single-word to describe the typical American disposition.