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uh, I guess if they want to go there, they can.
I posted where i found mine, you goofball. 
even THEY are genetically "male" or "female" whether they look it or not.
well, Zombieloffe. It's like "love the sinner, but hate the sin."
I genuinely care about my friends who are gay, but I can still think that what they do is wrong. If we stopped caring about everyone when they did something wrong, we would not like ANYONE. see?
I genuinely care about my friends who are gay, but I can still think that what they do is wrong. If we stopped caring about everyone when they did something wrong, we would not like ANYONE. see?
It was a joke FFS, Jobabob, I'm not being offensive here...
Now nickelplate... where did you come from, and when did you decide that you could take over TWHL with your nonsense?I came from another planet apparently. The planet of common sense. your yellow sun must not supply this in it's rays, like the red sun of my planet.
Jobabob, when you see a person asexually reproducing, take a picture and send it.
Everyone- even with mutalited or malformed equipment- is either male o female. Even those with Klienfelters and Turner's syndrome are male OR female.
Everyone- even with mutalited or malformed equipment- is either male o female. Even those with Klienfelters and Turner's syndrome are male OR female.
me too. See there is SOME small thing we can build a wonderful loving relationship on. 
lol. Einstien was wrong too. E = God/Jesus/Bible.
OF COURSE!
OF COURSE!
I think it's more than 6000.
I didn't say there WERE no religious wars, I just said that it's overstated.
You have to be religious to have RELIGIOUS moral standards.
Lefty: I can stop takin' the bait whenever i want. Right now it's all in fun. What can I say, you all are the master baiters.
plus, the word "judging" is thrown around too much. I am not judging anyone. Judging is telling someone they are going to hell. All I did was say i disagree with/don't want to "tolerate" some people's LIFESTYLES. not the people themselves.
I didn't say there WERE no religious wars, I just said that it's overstated.
You have to be religious to have RELIGIOUS moral standards.
Lefty: I can stop takin' the bait whenever i want. Right now it's all in fun. What can I say, you all are the master baiters.
plus, the word "judging" is thrown around too much. I am not judging anyone. Judging is telling someone they are going to hell. All I did was say i disagree with/don't want to "tolerate" some people's LIFESTYLES. not the people themselves.
what about sodomy? oh thats for a new debate!If it's with a male, it's homo. If it's with a female, it's hetero. Why don't you understand basic concepts like "boys and girls?"
Jobabob. At least I'm getting evidence. You've yet to prove anything except that you're really REALLY sarcastic. a LOT.
the main point is that nickelplate is always, always wrongJobabob is NOT an arsehole.
Man, you guys are classic. You are finding all these weak reasons to hate EVERY religion. Then you go on to talk about how religious people are hateful and how it's so bad, wah.
Instead of answering to a guiding set of morals, you would rather make your own, so you don't have to take responsibility for your actions. so you don't have to feel guilty. There's all kinds of pleasurable and/or unethical things you can do when you're "agnostic" or Atheist. All you've got to do is make the people who follow the other set of values look bad. So you try to make fun of them or disregard what they say with weak reasons like "Oooo, I cry because so many people have died in religious wars." Religious wars? like the American Civil War? The American Revolutionary War? WWI? WWII? Vietnam? Korea? Gulf wars 1 and 2. the Crimean War? The Iraq thing? Where are all of your religious wars?
Why is that even an issue? people are killed in EVERY war. I'm going to be against ANY form of government because GOVERNMENTS have ben involved in ALL WARS! DOWN WITH GOVERNMENT! I WANNA DO WHATEVER I WANT SO WE NEED ANARCHY!
Instead of answering to a guiding set of morals, you would rather make your own, so you don't have to take responsibility for your actions. so you don't have to feel guilty. There's all kinds of pleasurable and/or unethical things you can do when you're "agnostic" or Atheist. All you've got to do is make the people who follow the other set of values look bad. So you try to make fun of them or disregard what they say with weak reasons like "Oooo, I cry because so many people have died in religious wars." Religious wars? like the American Civil War? The American Revolutionary War? WWI? WWII? Vietnam? Korea? Gulf wars 1 and 2. the Crimean War? The Iraq thing? Where are all of your religious wars?
Why is that even an issue? people are killed in EVERY war. I'm going to be against ANY form of government because GOVERNMENTS have ben involved in ALL WARS! DOWN WITH GOVERNMENT! I WANNA DO WHATEVER I WANT SO WE NEED ANARCHY!
Alienware is always ridiculous.
I beleive that it's a new person when new DNA is created.
first of all, curing cancer has NOTHING to do with what I said, jsut for the record. but I will dignify it with a response:
Guns are meant to KILL. Animals and Enemies. Not regular people.
And the radiation that kills cancer comes out of a gun.
Guns are meant to KILL. Animals and Enemies. Not regular people.
And the radiation that kills cancer comes out of a gun.
Okay. I can see that, maybe.
But I've two reasons for emphasising that so much. Let me explain:
1. I have to make sure you know I am using facts and science and NOT religion, otherwise, you could disregard everything I say.
2. No-one has admitted that I AM being objective, except Professa Oak.
I just want you people on the other sides of debates to do the same. Like Satchmo. Back up your arguments with more than just "Nuh uh! you're a closed-minded bastard." That's just what YOU say and it doesn't contribute to the debate. That would be like me saying "That's not true because god said it's not." Here's how it's the same: I don't care if YOU think so, and you don't care if GOD thinks so, so let's just use science.
If you don't want to hear the bible, I won't quote it. All you will listen to is Science, so I make sure everyone knows I'm using it. My mind is open to Religious AND scientific reason, whereas yours is open only to science. Which brings me to ask, Who is more open-minded?
But I've two reasons for emphasising that so much. Let me explain:
1. I have to make sure you know I am using facts and science and NOT religion, otherwise, you could disregard everything I say.
2. No-one has admitted that I AM being objective, except Professa Oak.
I just want you people on the other sides of debates to do the same. Like Satchmo. Back up your arguments with more than just "Nuh uh! you're a closed-minded bastard." That's just what YOU say and it doesn't contribute to the debate. That would be like me saying "That's not true because god said it's not." Here's how it's the same: I don't care if YOU think so, and you don't care if GOD thinks so, so let's just use science.
If you don't want to hear the bible, I won't quote it. All you will listen to is Science, so I make sure everyone knows I'm using it. My mind is open to Religious AND scientific reason, whereas yours is open only to science. Which brings me to ask, Who is more open-minded?
Is it worth 16,000 murders per year for the right to own a gun? Gun nuts scare me.That's 16,000 less people breathing my air. And by the law of averages: that's 8,000 less left-wing douchebags clogging the system with their bullshite protests and 8,000 less righties makin' people like me look bad.
I'm not a gun nut, and I don't need a gun to "feel free" but i don't like people limiting the things that I can own because someone ELSE might do something bad with it. That's called blanket punishment and it only works for first-grade classes in school. That's pretty much like a stereotype, and I KNOW you progressive folks around here don't like stereotypes!
Christians feel sad when someone dies because they are humans. This give me two points to make: they make mistakes, and they feel attachment to thier families like anyone else.
If truly God does NOT exist, then it would be necessary for humanity to invent one. Because there are many circumstances in our lives that are too painful to tolerate alone. We feel powerless frequently, and there are still many things that we have no control over.But if God DOES exist, we would all have a subconsious awareness of his existence. Thus many people would need to find a billion reasons to justify the things they do that they KNOW are wrong because of thier conscience. If we can convince ourselves that he doesn't exist, then we can do whatever we want, because WE are the highest beings in the universe, then! WHEEEEE let's all have abortions!
I don't take offense! Seriously! 
And the only reason that people might get offended by me is because i actually disagree with them. GASP! Maybe people need to have thier beliefs shaken once or twice in life. I know it's happened to me, but I came out stronger for it.
And the only reason that people might get offended by me is because i actually disagree with them. GASP! Maybe people need to have thier beliefs shaken once or twice in life. I know it's happened to me, but I came out stronger for it.
Wich is obviously outdated for todays standards and scociety's.Yes I see your point! "Do not Kill" is so outdated!
You all are making judgements going by the WORST of christians. That is like me saying that ALL gay people have aids and knowingly spread it. Just because SOME do.
How do you explain the dead sea scrolls?
Plus you are all so narrow-minded. You are throwing out ANYTHING as a theory. Aliens jizzed in the sea and we evolved? ALIENS? We evolved from VIRUSES?
Life does not just spontaneously appear. See "Miller experiment" http://www.chem.duke.edu/~jds/cruise_chem/Exobiology/miller.html
if the bible is so fictional how come they have other books from back then that back it up? Prove that the flood didn't happen or that israel did not exist. Even atheists agree that Jesus existed.
I'm not using that to PROVE anything. Jobabob asked if what i said was in the bible. I was just saying that it was, and gave a quote. Learn to read in context.
but you either have to limit EVERYONE'S freedoms or NOBODY'S. and i don't want to lose any of my rights because some crazy guy that hasn't commited a crime yet MIGHT get a gun and MIGHT do something bad.
So who's being offensive?
How am I being offensive? I've only called one person a name on this forum once time. I've presented logic and not emotion, and people get offended by it. However, when someone wants to insult my religion, they say it's not logical and not rational and people agree with them.
Fact is, everyone is going to take offense at things they don't agree with, especially if it makes sense. I don't find Jobabob offensive 9 times out of 10, most of the time he's sarcastic/silly but he's always a bit caustic and looking for someone to take offense so he can make fun of them.
I'm just tired of people saying I'm closed-minded and blind because I beleive a certain way. Anyone who doesn't consider my path as a possibility is not being open-minded. Pretty hypocritical for all these people calling me a bigot, because I think that buttsex is gross.
You all want everyone to have EVERY right to do what they want, except freedom of speech when they disagree with you, right to bear arms when YOUR country doesn't have that right, and freedom of religion.
How am I being offensive? I've only called one person a name on this forum once time. I've presented logic and not emotion, and people get offended by it. However, when someone wants to insult my religion, they say it's not logical and not rational and people agree with them.
Fact is, everyone is going to take offense at things they don't agree with, especially if it makes sense. I don't find Jobabob offensive 9 times out of 10, most of the time he's sarcastic/silly but he's always a bit caustic and looking for someone to take offense so he can make fun of them.
I'm just tired of people saying I'm closed-minded and blind because I beleive a certain way. Anyone who doesn't consider my path as a possibility is not being open-minded. Pretty hypocritical for all these people calling me a bigot, because I think that buttsex is gross.
You all want everyone to have EVERY right to do what they want, except freedom of speech when they disagree with you, right to bear arms when YOUR country doesn't have that right, and freedom of religion.
But the law-abiding citizens aren't going to be doing anything wrong with the guns, just hunting and responsible stuff.
It's only taking guns away from the good people when they're banned.
It's only taking guns away from the good people when they're banned.
I'm in the wrong thread. lol. They're all so similar.
Normally I just try not to bring stuff from one thread to another, but these are all the same, mostly because of Jobabob, I'd say.
Here's "the four stages of thread progression"
1. thread is started, normally about something bad, unusual that has happened or is happening.
2. Jobabob makes a sarcastic comment about how God sucks for allowing it to happen.
3. I take the bait and post like 10 pages.
4. it turns into a religious debate.
Normally I just try not to bring stuff from one thread to another, but these are all the same, mostly because of Jobabob, I'd say.
Here's "the four stages of thread progression"
1. thread is started, normally about something bad, unusual that has happened or is happening.
2. Jobabob makes a sarcastic comment about how God sucks for allowing it to happen.
3. I take the bait and post like 10 pages.
4. it turns into a religious debate.
Pepper... this STARTED OUT as one. see post #1 for details. Note the sarcastic "creation science" remark.
because the bible says all that right?Actually Jobabob, the bible does say a lot of that. If you'll bother to read it. "To God 1000 years is as a day and a day is as 1000 years." It also says that God only chooses to manifest himself physically a few times, meaning that he is not physical to begin with.
I bet gangs in gun-controlled countries are really intimidating. What do they use to fight with? swords? lol. No, they still have guns even though they are illegal.
Ich verstehe nicht "oda."
Seventh-Monkey: YOU need to grow up and stop looking down your nose at people. I was not insulting BRITAIN. I was pointing out that our gun policy was obviously superior to yours, of 200 years ago. Notice the "200" and not a 300 like you said. If you were as learned as you claim, you'd know a bit of history.
Jobabob: I know Iraq exists coz of Britain. And it's damned well Britain's fault. If they'd split the land up according to tribes instead of land area, we wouldn't have all this sectarian violence these days. But then, british judgement has always been a bit cloudy. stil is as far as you've shown.
Jobabob: I know Iraq exists coz of Britain. And it's damned well Britain's fault. If they'd split the land up according to tribes instead of land area, we wouldn't have all this sectarian violence these days. But then, british judgement has always been a bit cloudy. stil is as far as you've shown.
Makes sense to me, Slasher. Although, the metaphorical answer doesn't explain as much as the "God-does-exist." one.
The metaphorical one makes people look smarter to society, but you get less answers to deep questions, I've found.
The metaphorical one makes people look smarter to society, but you get less answers to deep questions, I've found.
Surrogate mothers and IVF participants do not display an IVF sexual preference. And sure bisexual PEOPLE can reproduce, but only through heterosexual sexual intercourse. You're such an argumentative dumbass, you just sit there and spout shite from your mouth. "oh, bisexuals can have babies!" yeah, can they do it with someone of the same sex? You're the type of person that gives humans a bad name. You don't seem to be able to... think. Yes, the PERSON is bisexual, but there are only the two types of sex that you can have with "consenting adults:" hetero and homo.
Jobabob: darwin DID invent evolution. When's the last time you saw something "evolving?"
Judging by the increasing amout of people like YOU i meet every day, I'd say Darwin had it backwards.
Judging by the increasing amout of people like YOU i meet every day, I'd say Darwin had it backwards.
But as soon as you replace "God" with concepts like change and time, then all the stuff he says doesn't apply anymore. "Yay, God is time, so we can do whatever we want!"
Jobabob: the bible doesn't say all that. Further proving that I am not so narrow-minded. After all I just talked aobut science stuff. Science and religion are not mutually exclusive like you would like them to be. BTW, nice avatar, I never figured you for a bush fan.
Jobabob: the bible doesn't say all that. Further proving that I am not so narrow-minded. After all I just talked aobut science stuff. Science and religion are not mutually exclusive like you would like them to be. BTW, nice avatar, I never figured you for a bush fan.
yes, those people with Porches are really living it up! some people even have a front AND a back porch!!! Bass Turds....
Yeah, I think either of the candidates this last time would've screwed everything up anyway... meh.
Agreed.
I dunno, traditions are really stong for eastern cultures. but either way, it's over now and the baby will not ahve to suffer going to school with a bunch of ppl with necks and who don't have frog-eyes. That kid would get made fun of so horrible he would want to die....
true that Garg. Those two are pretty stupid. Our vice president does not represent us in THAT way...
hmmm, I can't tell. But either way, it's pretty mean. But, they have different ways of doing things over there... Who are we to be intolerant of thier way of life?
Actually, Satchmo, the AK is about the most popular for hunting deer in missouri. These just aren't automatische.
It's easy for brits to criticise us for allowing citizens to have guns, but it's because of them that we needed the 2nd amendment to begin with. Plus, you'll notice that we won.
I love target practice.
It's easy for brits to criticise us for allowing citizens to have guns, but it's because of them that we needed the 2nd amendment to begin with. Plus, you'll notice that we won.
I love target practice.
Strider, I think it was dead when they paraded wasn't it?
Babies die every day. Yes, it's sad, but I STILL wanna know who's the biggest a-hole.
I was surprised that they set the baby in a pot and paraded it around. that was kinda mean.
I was surprised that they set the baby in a pot and paraded it around. that was kinda mean.
I use a letter opener probably about once a month. I'm a pretty shed-y person, so my kbd gets filled up fast.
god did that, whan an arseholeNow, I'm sure Suntali was a sinning whore.
What a beneficial evolutionary step this baby is!!! GO DARWIN!
Pepper: I teach a dual enrollment class on computers at a high school. Certified by high school as well as an acredited college. I know what I'm talking about, man.
Seventh-Monkey: that's not what I meant, you're missing the point. You either have to say that all sexual preferences are right or just heterosexuality. You may ask why only heterosexuality, it's because it is the only one that produces offspring.
Jobabob: I am different from some homophobic gay-hater. I don't hate gays or anyone. I just disagree with thier lifestyle.
Seventh-Monkey: that's not what I meant, you're missing the point. You either have to say that all sexual preferences are right or just heterosexuality. You may ask why only heterosexuality, it's because it is the only one that produces offspring.
Jobabob: I am different from some homophobic gay-hater. I don't hate gays or anyone. I just disagree with thier lifestyle.
Christians were killing dinosaurs until they realized that all dinosaurs were gay. Then they stopped. But they all still died, because they weren't having babies. But, DANG, those dinos had some style!
God just always existed. Well, actually, he existed before always existed. Time is only measured by change, and before anything was created, there was no time. Everything must exist in all four dimensions. If it does not exist in length, width and depth, it does not exist for time. Sonce God knows no bounds, and does not exist in those 3 physical dimensions, he supercedes all limits of time.
God just always existed. Well, actually, he existed before always existed. Time is only measured by change, and before anything was created, there was no time. Everything must exist in all four dimensions. If it does not exist in length, width and depth, it does not exist for time. Sonce God knows no bounds, and does not exist in those 3 physical dimensions, he supercedes all limits of time.
Nobody was there for the big bang, so I guess we have no proof. lol
I'll shorten the 15 pages down to just this: There can't be something from nothing. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, so there was either matter or energy in the beginning, and SOMETHING has to happen to either one to convert them from one to another.
I'll shorten the 15 pages down to just this: There can't be something from nothing. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, so there was either matter or energy in the beginning, and SOMETHING has to happen to either one to convert them from one to another.