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ahh, strider...it depends on how you look at it. Your giant dinner plate could be a really flat cup.

Ant and RS those are the answers im looking for. Thanks for the inside look. Like i have said im new to this but im really engaged when i have the time. I might just play a bit of DoD for about a half an hour now and then go practice mapping for those other couple hours that i would have been playin. Hammer is quite a tool. I have everything drawn on the ol' paper but getting it into hammer with all of what i had in mind will take some time obviously, but i had to start somewhere.

Thanks again. I will stay in touch

Oh, i completely understand that. That is a skybox correct? I have read/watched a few tuts on the subject and understand that's what i have to do. I think what i need to ask is: when building an the "cup" as you say Ant, can i lay down the terrain for the bottom of the "cup" the cliffs for the "sides" of the cup, fill the cup with "matter". When that is all done cap it with a skybox high enough to make it look like the sky texture is actually a sky. As opposed to this: Creating a huge "cup with a cap" first then building up the sides and then filling with matter.

Or did i just answer my question myself... or will either way work. Did both of those above statements have the same meaning, developing the same outcome just approaching it differently..?

Penguinboy,

What idea do you have in mind for outdoor environments for a Mod like DoD?

Hey i figured it out...i must have checked in the options/general tab "use independant window configurations" it's all fixed, i just unchecked that it's back to normal...

So if anyone else has that small prob then this is how you fix it. sorry to waste your time.

A friend and i had a question, we're shooting around ideas on a new map we'd like to build, it's our first go at it. The idea is that it's based in outdoors, i'll start there...now do you build a large "room" and then fill it up or can you just start by layin down your terrain and then build the noclip/skybox around the completed environment?

Im not sure what key i pushed in Hammer but i lost the 4 views in the Hammer window...When I File/New...it only opens one window??!!! What the heck happened?

In that window i can TAB through: front, side, top and i can't even toggle a camera view...

Any ideas?