My theory Created 19 years ago2005-04-09 11:53:37 UTC by BrattyLord

I think they try and enjoy life while it lasts at every means neccisary.

People who don't believe in anything live because they, like the rest of us, are living entities...

There. Pretty brief...

People who believe in nothing are liars. Just posers who haven't given it any thought. Its a 100% nonsensical arguement.

"I don't believe in anything" Yes you f**king do, get down from your goth high horse, if you don't believe in anything you haven't thought about the big things, in the same way the rest of the TV addict idiots have not.

I could go into a rant here, but I'm better off banging my head against this wall here. They don't care about it enough to formulate an idea so why would they bother even listening.

I declare the argument invalid, its a contradiction in terms that idiot psuedo-depressed kids use to make themselves sound moody. Its just spam that the 'cool' kids like to post, take no heed of it in any metaphysical debates.

Yeah. I agree with the raving Communist cat.

Maybe we should be asking a more general question instead of why we live. Maybe, "What is considered living". Once you can answer the more general question, answer the more specific. It may look like gibberish but that all depends on the interpreter. (make sure you're open minded and not biased like many of you are.)

What do you mean by not believing anything? You mean being atheist? If so than that has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I don't believe in any gods or anything like that because there being one is illogical. Don't say I am a liar. I don't believe in any religion because I don't believe there is anything there. I am atheist because I HAVE given it alot of thought, like look at the world around us, look at space, research space and other things like that, research science and physics, you will find that it is simply against the way things work in this universe for there to be any entity. I think about this kind of thing all the time.

They don't care about it enough to formulate an idea

I got news for you. My idea is simply that there is no gods, godesses, or any other entities that people may believe in.

If you don't believe in something, why do you live (what are you living for).

Too scared to die?

To that quote:

Yah, your just gonna not live because you have nothing to live for. Youll live for your goals in life. Youll live for love. etc etc....

THat quote is just BS.

My hamster doesnt have a religion and it seems pretty happy. It lives for food.

Yeah. I agree with the raving Communist cat.

lol.

Yeah, I agree too.

Maybe we should be asking a more general question instead of why we live. Maybe, "What is considered living". Once you can answer the more general question, answer the more specific. It may look like gibberish but that all depends on the interpreter. (make sure you're open minded and not biased like many of you are.)

You're just giving us more questions... We want answers.

you will find that it is simply against the way things work in this universe for there to be any entity.

You look for something not to be there. Why not instead look for something to be there?

I have tried looking for something not to be there, and it usually doesn't make any sense.

My hamster doesnt have a religion and it seems pretty happy. It lives for food.

lol!

Chow, thats actually the funniest thing you have ever said.

Maybe I'm just in a good mood?

Well, if we look at that quote, it has some truth. The hampster lives to enjoy itself, hence, eating. remember this? "I think they try and enjoy life while it lasts at every means neccisary."

Yeah.. thats right.. I'm comparing some of you to a hampster

(Soon to be quote of some clueless person) Let us all think of ourselves as a hampster. Let us not ask "are we the hampster", but "What is the hampter?" Is the hampster a part of all of us? What is light? how come the hampster is grey? who stole my cheese? questions must be asked to be... to be.... yes...

To ask a more general question is to skip a step in knowledge. You essentially guide your answers by being more general with the question. Example (for the love of god, please, do not quote this as you would a hamster analogy): Jimmy had to buy an apple for his pie. This pie will be an item of food at his grandma's birthday. To buy this apple he has to make 25 cents. (What he does not know is that his friend has an extra applepie already made). Jimmy figures he must find a job to pay for the apple. But he is too young to work anywhere. He has to contemplate how to make money to get the apple if he can't work. He figures he could beg on the street or steal money from his parents. He tries to beg on the street but to his best luck, he is not able to even get a penny. He then tries to steal his parents money. He is successful in this attempt and makes his way the store. He buys the apple and takes it home to make his pie. But wait, he doesn't know how to make a pie. He must go on the internet or ask his sister. He checks the internet but the internet is down, so he must ask his sister. His sister decides she could help him and they make the pie together. After he finishes his pie, he walks over to his friends house to play video games. As he walks in he sees that his friend also has an apple pie. His friend tells him he could have it if he wan'ted because his friend didn't really like apple all that much.
This shows a quick analogy that asking a more general question can eliminate all of the specific question, providing you know the answer. So if Jimmy would have searched for an apple pie instead of 25 cents, he could have saved his own time.
How does this apply to our big question, simple. If we ask a question that we know the answer to, we can eliminate all of the useless specific questions (If Jimmy would have searched for an apple pie, why whould he need to beg on the street for 25 cents).
If anyone would be interested in continuing Jimmy's adventures in a day by day story, just post " "

Yah, your just gonna not live because you have nothing to live for. Youll live for your goals in life. Youll live for love. etc etc....

Exactly. That's something to live for?

I got news for you. My idea is simply that there is no gods, godesses, or any other entities that people may believe in.

You'll be screaming and blaspheming on your deathbed, crying out for ALL the gods to help you in the end. Athiests have a tendancy to do that, mate. And if you believe that THIS is all their is, then, for arguments sake call THIS god. God's just a less hip way of saying it, daddy-o.

And if you believe that THIS is all their is, then, for arguments sake call THIS god. God's just a less hip way of saying it, daddy-o.

What? What do you mean by THIS?

mmm Hamster

I believe in Nintendoism...

He says he only believes in what is around him, but I choose to call THIS god.

I see. Well, as I've said before pretty concisely, I don't believe in a benevolent omnipotent deity masterminding all this, but it seems too incredible either way. Either way, something has come from nothing. Maybe people should actually accept that we don't actually know and wait and find out.

But the thing that people must understand is the true nature of manipulation. It's no good thinking you know the answer to life because a man in a long frock who calls himself a 'father' told you. That man in a long frock who calls himself a 'father' is, like many other religious men and women, a position in the pyramid-like hierarchical structure that is commonly known as manipulation. People are conditioned to think how they are told to think. Religion is a necessary control device put in place so that the human mind can be manipulated and told to believe a certain version of reality which masquerades the true nature of reality that we are all one infinite consciousness of pure 100% love with infinite potential. There is no heaven and hell, only the illusion of heaven and hell.

libs are so close minded when it comes to religion.

Christianity has given us the true story of teh beginning of earth, Creation.

Before you rant, Seventh, jahzel, ZL, just listen.

If you truely beleive in evolution, what is the point of life, evolution simply says that we are an accident, that we have no purpose. Without purpose, people generally turn into, well, a ZL (no offence).

Creation tells us that we were planned, that we have a purpose, and that there is somthing bigger than our selves in this universe.

What exactly is your idea of your purpose, then? To do what other humans have told you is right? I can't see how any higher beings come into it.

I like Jahzel's idea. Then again, I'm in no hurry to die. We'll just have to wait and see, really. Sure, we can waste our entire lives arguing and fighting, but really, why bother? Just be nice to everybody, and what happens, happens. I think I've already posted this, but evidently nobody listened, if I did :P.

Our purpose is to serve god and others. God wants us to be happy, but he can't change our descisions, hence all the evil in the world.

For the love of god! (Excuse the pun, but) I am not a liberal. I am not a democrat. I am not a conservative. I am not a christian, I am not a christian conservative. I am a human being. I believe in humanity, I dont believe in our government to offer us humanity.

Let me make this point clear, as you seem to be misconstruding my point of view. There was at one point the introduction, thanks to the Royal Society and the Lunar Society, of the 'this-world-is-all-there-is-we-are-a-cosmic-accident' theory which is highly encouraged. What people tend to think is that religion and science are two opposites. This is not true, religion and science are to 'oppo-sames', they are designed to give the impression that you are either with the one or the other when infact it matters not who you are with or which side you believe, they are both controlled by the same elite. Both were designed to get the public conditioned into a mind prison.

Its the same case in any election. Currently we have an election on its way in Britain, ad there are many people who will think that some form of change will come if they decide to vote. The truth is all the major parties, including some of the minor ones, are part of the same control grid. The way it works is that the elected party are given the opportunity to advance the agenda, which is what one world government is, whilst the unelected party uses the chance to criticise or disagree with the elected party and give the illusion of choice. Then when the unelected party comes into power they too are given the chance to advance the agenda, while the now unelected party disagrees with them.

The illsuion of choice is part of the mass manipulation of humanity. Fool them into thinking they can make a choice yet meanwhile continue to impose a fascist control structure behind closed doors. This is what democracy essentially is, an illusion of choice. You cant suddenly impose the one world government agenda on everyone and not expect a reaction and eventually a rebellion. The process is systematic, it's a stepping stone process aided by various 'disasters' used to advance the agenda further. People are becoming more and more apathetic. "Why Vote? Vote for who? Why? They're both as bad as each other." The control system is designed to offer the available solutions. Vote for Lib Dems and the illegal war will be over, vote for conservatives to solve immagration, etc. It's one big farce.

"Why Vote? Vote for who? Why? They're both as bad as each other."

I totally agree with that in the last election, they both sucked, so I didn't vote.

When I am on my deathbed, I will think back to all the things I accomplished in life and be thankful I had a purpose in life, and that I served that purpose. I guarentee you that I will never pray, beg or ask for any "god" to let me live longer, because I know that I'm just talking to myself, which is, well, kind of crazy?

Our purpose is to serve god and others. God wants us to be happy, but he can't change our descisions, hence all the evil in the world.

Why does God need serving? Concentrate on other people. You think your God is omnipotent. I'm sure he'd cheerfully let you help the people of this world... since you say he can't change peoples' decisions.

Purpose

Read da book:

"Purpose Driven Life".

Great, now we are discussing the purpose of life...

I'll post some more meaningful stuff later.