The Ultimate n00b Mapping Machine
Created 18 years ago2005-12-24 02:25:12 UTC by
satchmo
Created 18 years ago2005-12-24 02:25:12 UTC by
satchmo
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 02:25:12 UTC
Post #154241
If you haven't seen this yet, check it out. It'll allow countless number of talentless mappers to generate killboxes for many years to come.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 02:41:30 UTC
Post #154242
It isnt completely bad looking, hammer is far superior though!! Over elaborate trumpet solo!!!
That looks too boxlike.
That looks too boxlike.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 03:49:14 UTC
Post #154245
I've tried it and I personally think it sucks. I'd rather map for a real game.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 05:30:38 UTC
Post #154256
Well it looks ok, but I have an opinion bout those "OMGZ0R 3DEEz0r GAMEZ0r CRZEAT0RZ!!1~"
I'd rather create a game from scratch. :
I'd rather create a game from scratch. :
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 05:42:10 UTC
Post #154257
Silly. Asking money for such a package while in fact, you know any game created with it won't be a too good game anyway.
But hey, the more killboxes, the more even normal maps will stand out...
But hey, the more killboxes, the more even normal maps will stand out...
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 05:55:50 UTC
Post #154258
But hey, the more killboxes, the more even normal maps will stand out...Sweet!
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 06:06:22 UTC
Post #154259
But hey, the more killboxes, the more even normal maps will stand out...YAY
Hammer is much better then this generator!
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 09:16:42 UTC
Post #154288
Something about those cool guns is shooting into my head and saying 'Valve Hammer and i are both equal , execept i'm pretty pointless'
uh , it does look good thought! (No i am still maping for HL , and come and see me website!))
uh , it does look good thought! (No i am still maping for HL , and come and see me website!))
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 14:06:53 UTC
Post #154320
I've got it (Trial demo) And , no , it's not just killboxes , it's lifts with no path_corners , doors with no Func and guns with no harm done!
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 14:15:36 UTC
Post #154322
..I had the trial version..twas ok, fun for like 3 maps...then you run outta stuff to do.
Hammer, beats it hands down.
Hammer, beats it hands down.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 14:31:13 UTC
Post #154324
i can understand the appeal but seriously.. the ammount of people who are going to think of themselves as uber-leet PC gods for being able to totally make a game!! ZORZ!! WOAH!! 
it reminds me of people who use none of their own brushwork in photoshop and simply compile ready-made images into a working state and then call it their own work.
boring, and honestly pretty sad.
Hammer for the win, followed closely by QTKradient..
it reminds me of people who use none of their own brushwork in photoshop and simply compile ready-made images into a working state and then call it their own work.
boring, and honestly pretty sad.
Hammer for the win, followed closely by QTKradient..
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 14:41:58 UTC
Post #154325
G-max to the win!
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 14:42:59 UTC
Post #154326
Valve Hammer Editor is like the public library system. It's should be too good to be true, yet it exists.
Imagine what we'd be without Hammer or Valve.
Imagine what we'd be without Hammer or Valve.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 14:46:38 UTC
Post #154327
valve rule for the most part.. but i used to be a strong steam supporter. i hate it now.. they fucked up so badly over the past few months.
Source SDK beta : un-uninstallable - fucked
CS : S : more crashing errors than in any other game. totally un-beta tested. fucked.
HL2dm : Listen server hosting fucked repeatedly with a rusty spoon!
why cant they just leave it alone when it works?!
Source SDK beta : un-uninstallable - fucked
CS : S : more crashing errors than in any other game. totally un-beta tested. fucked.
HL2dm : Listen server hosting fucked repeatedly with a rusty spoon!
why cant they just leave it alone when it works?!
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 15:46:25 UTC
Post #154332
G-max to the win!Amen to that.
It's a great program.Hammer is better for it can do more stuff and you have more control on what it does, although it's harder to use.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 15:49:10 UTC
Post #154333
This is probably how people who make actually make their own games look at hammer users.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 15:58:28 UTC
Post #154336
games created in those creators suck balls.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 16:20:45 UTC
Post #154340
[url=http://link]spag.projektas.lt/twhlheadcrab.gif[url=http://link]
Yes , Valve does go over it supremely ,but i do agree with you
(third) You don't have hands on the guns , its a TS effect (Time Spliiters , the gun floats ,man! reloading without a hand , BLEAK)
Yes , Valve does go over it supremely ,but i do agree with you
..I had the trial version..twas ok, fun for like 3 maps...then you run outta stuff to do.yeah.I'm ran out of ideas. (first wrong thing)Buttons are well easy on Hammer (second) elevators are pretty dull
(third) You don't have hands on the guns , its a TS effect (Time Spliiters , the gun floats ,man! reloading without a hand , BLEAK)
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 17:45:03 UTC
Post #154352
CS : S : more crashing errors than in any other game.You obviously haven't played BF2 [much].
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 17:46:43 UTC
Post #154353
Elon stop using damn smilies in every sentence.
P.S.: That generator looks shit.
P.S.: That generator looks shit.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 18:55:57 UTC
Post #154360
Imagine what we'd be without Hammer or Valve.Unreal Tournament mappers, I assume?
I'd have to agree about the latest Steam updates, they're far from ideal for a lot of people. Not a good thing. Steam itself still isn't bad however, but yeah...
Anyway, to me this is something like throwing downloaded prefabs into a map and calling it a map. Granted, technically it's a map but to me, it doesn't deserve that name - good maps are hand-crafted products, not mass-generated things. You don't play a lot of maps, you play the few that you like the most. But hey, that's just rehashing a known opinion...
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 19:16:22 UTC
Post #154362
Elon stop using damn smilies in every sentence.Not every sentence, I already reduced to many posts. I'll try to stop
Mr.Good map use the [img] code to show pictures, or in that case spags smilies. Also use the right URL-
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 19:35:12 UTC
Post #154367
Edit - Wtf am I doing? Wrong thread.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 22:48:34 UTC
Post #154388
One too many beers during the holidays, G_KID?
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 06:27:38 UTC
Post #154395
I hope not, beer's disgusting. Those editors really bug me, I used the standard "Game Maker" before and that one was kinda cool, outside of not knowing any scripting crap.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 06:45:26 UTC
Post #154398
Come on now HAMMER IS SUPREME HAMMER IS SUPREME!
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 07:29:50 UTC
Post #154401
I would love one of those it looks cool.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 09:32:26 UTC
Post #154415
I would love one of those it looks cool.Just look at one of kasperg's, Captian P's or rimrook's maps and see why it isn't and that it's obselete torward what hammer can actually do.
You Fail!!!
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 14:44:54 UTC
Post #154458
Meh, FPS Creator is for loosers who admit that they are uninspired, untalented individuals who can never make a decent map using Hammer.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 15:14:19 UTC
Post #154466
It looks like most of you consider Hammer is the only 3D level editor maps and everything else is just shit ...
Are you always so self-centred ?...
Valve must include some drugs into their softwares to make most CS gamers not play anything else and most Source users not use anything else ...
Are you always so self-centred ?...
Valve must include some drugs into their softwares to make most CS gamers not play anything else and most Source users not use anything else ...
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 15:24:39 UTC
Post #154468
Downloading now, also installed new registry keys for windows that resets the time trial on the FPS Creator 30-Day Trial!
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 15:36:30 UTC
Post #154470
Monkey.
That sucks. so do hammer!
That sucks. so do hammer!
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 15:37:33 UTC
Post #154471
hahaaa, HiLaRiOuS!!
I just played it, it's crap, literally, crap!
I just played it, it's crap, literally, crap!
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 15:53:54 UTC
Post #154475
most Source users not use anything else ...Personally, I think the time it would take me to learn a new editor would be better invested in working on my current maps.
HL games are usually more popular than other games, so a mapper has more guarantees that the map will be downloaded, commented on and even played. The contrary could also be true. If there are less maps for a certain game, your's would be more known.
Anyway, let's just say that if you learned to write with your right hand (Hammer), for example, it would be more logical to keep practising than trying to learn to write with your left foot (UnrealEd).
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 17:22:44 UTC
Post #154480
Ok. All i'm gunna say is.-
start with the bads-
-weapons are sh*tty
-desert eagle sound for a tervor?
-trial version only includes 50% of the full game so that's pish.
-Ambient Generics are well easier than about 25 lines of what the hell is this.
the goods
+somethjing which would take an hour in hammer takes a minuet
+easier than hammer.
+thats all.
Hammer has more control over things , and sounds are pish.
So ... if FPS creator was rated 5 / 10 , hammer would be 7 / 5.
good are both
start with the bads-
- does not have 3d view on mapping
-weapons are sh*tty
-desert eagle sound for a tervor?
-trial version only includes 50% of the full game so that's pish.
-Ambient Generics are well easier than about 25 lines of what the hell is this.
the goods
+somethjing which would take an hour in hammer takes a minuet
+easier than hammer.
+thats all.
Hammer has more control over things , and sounds are pish.
So ... if FPS creator was rated 5 / 10 , hammer would be 7 / 5.
good are both
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 19:17:33 UTC
Post #154498
TALK PROPER ENGRISH
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 19:22:33 UTC
Post #154500
The moment I was waiting for a long time: Seventh thats spelled English!
Mr.good map I know your too lazy to speak proper English, but if you want anybody to understand you please speak normally.
Mr.good map I know your too lazy to speak proper English, but if you want anybody to understand you please speak normally.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 19:44:08 UTC
Post #154503
HL games are usually more popular than other games, so a mapper has more guarantees that the map will be downloaded, commented on and even played.That's why I map for HL/HL2. And because CS/CS:S is so popular, I ventured into that arena as well.
There's no point mapping for something that no one else will ever play.
The moment I was waiting for a long time: Seventh thats spelled English!<sigh>I wish someone could've pointed out to him earlier that was intentional.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 20:07:44 UTC
Post #154508
L and R aren't even close. Clear intentionality.
As for that program... "Game makers" of sorts have never interested me. Takes all the fun out of it.
"Yay, lets make a game that looks exactly the same as everyone elses!!!"... Nah.
As for that program... "Game makers" of sorts have never interested me. Takes all the fun out of it.
"Yay, lets make a game that looks exactly the same as everyone elses!!!"... Nah.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-26 03:47:42 UTC
Post #154545
Downloaded it, looked around, and tried to uninstall.
Btw, it leaves a whole bunch of junk behind. Don't know if there is any spywear yet, but, wouldn't be surprised...
If I was going to make a game, I'd code it myself, use Ogre or another program I can't seem to remember the name of, to get me most of the way.
Btw, it leaves a whole bunch of junk behind. Don't know if there is any spywear yet, but, wouldn't be surprised...
If I was going to make a game, I'd code it myself, use Ogre or another program I can't seem to remember the name of, to get me most of the way.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-26 04:08:31 UTC
Post #154547
Valve Hammer Editor is like the public library system. It's should be too good to be true, yet it exists.I know what its like I guess, I used to play diablo2 (Its a stupid game, So many hackers and shit) But when the fun got taken out of it by some loosers , I started making a mod for it (dident last a few months though) You have no program like hammer or anything and theres heaps of coding that you have to do, So thats why i gave up, and after i finished that i came to here.
Imagine what we'd be without Hammer or Valve.
But anyway, I think that program is shit just for people who are too lazy to get off their ass and do anything to hard.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-26 05:28:46 UTC
Post #154549
<sigh>I wish someone could've pointed out to him earlier that was intentional.
L and R aren't even close. Clear intentionality.Did you have to say that, now I have that lust again. Without that remark of yours I would have stop, for sometime.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-26 06:58:58 UTC
Post #154554
@ Elon: Engrish
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-26 07:27:17 UTC
Post #154560
Haha "BE CRAEFUL YOUR HEAD", sounds like Elonspeek.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-26 07:39:09 UTC
Post #154561
Back to the point. I think the objective of level designers is to create new game arenas that are fun to play. You can either innovate and make an original setting, or map something that has been done before, but improving it. I think this "level editor" allows you to do none of those 2 things, so...
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-26 07:40:28 UTC
Post #154562
Haha... I'm even better at spelling!
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-26 09:58:13 UTC
Post #154588
games created in those creators suck balls.100% agreed.
Such game creators have huge limits and you won't be able to create anything original. And the chance to create fuckin killboxes till' ya choke is just not worth $49.99! Who the hell are those morons kidding?
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-26 13:33:33 UTC
Post #154606
Do you mean you can't edit anything on this soft ? no way to create your own gameplay ? is it "just" a level editor for a given FPS, or really a "3D game creator" ?
There's no point mapping for something that no one else will ever play.Do you mean you know CS gamers who play mappers maps ?
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-26 13:58:23 UTC
Post #154614
I once joined a CS server that was running my map cs_1701e, so yes, it is possible.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-26 14:23:29 UTC
Post #154618
You join once a server running your map then you consider your map played ?
I could think the same thing with this software : I make a map, post a link here, some guys reply "omg crap!", then I consider the map played, at least as much as yours ...
No.
de_dust2 is played.
awp_map is played.
de_raid, cs_industrywest, de_vine, cs_assault_christmas, de_vostok, de_arizona, de_herrenberg, cs_rio, de_alps, de_quarry, de_struction, de_volare etc aren't played.
There is no matter of "skills" or "art" or number of players who are statistically playing the game or whatever here, there is only a matter of mentality : CS gamers do not play mappers maps, they just play endlessly dust and poolday, then sorry but in my very humble opinion there isn't less sense making maps with that software than with Hammer (I am talking from the CS point of view, I don't know how is the hldm community, if it even exists) ...
I could think the same thing with this software : I make a map, post a link here, some guys reply "omg crap!", then I consider the map played, at least as much as yours ...
No.
de_dust2 is played.
awp_map is played.
de_raid, cs_industrywest, de_vine, cs_assault_christmas, de_vostok, de_arizona, de_herrenberg, cs_rio, de_alps, de_quarry, de_struction, de_volare etc aren't played.
There is no matter of "skills" or "art" or number of players who are statistically playing the game or whatever here, there is only a matter of mentality : CS gamers do not play mappers maps, they just play endlessly dust and poolday, then sorry but in my very humble opinion there isn't less sense making maps with that software than with Hammer (I am talking from the CS point of view, I don't know how is the hldm community, if it even exists) ...
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