Old TWHL vs new TWHL Created 18 years ago2006-01-30 21:09:44 UTC by Soup Miner

I repeat: The best threads we've ever had on these forums are all political or religious ones.
"Politics, religions and stuff..." was the best.

But i see threads like "favorite movie" or "favorite guitar brand" (i don?t think they exist but it?s those kind of threads im talking about now) those kind of threads isn?t spam, that?s a subject to talk about. And those topics often get called spam and useless and get closed.

Uh, ok. Link to one threadthat has been closed like that, that's about an actual topic? Just looked through 2 pages of threads, couldn't find a single one.

There's so much hatred and intolerance now at TWHL. Where is the love?

I think the best thread ever was the original "cool avatars" thread.

The love is hidden within the geezer users like me and Zombie, who have no grown old and grumpy and we just want to shoot people with our boomstick whenever they step onto our property.

TWHL was much better "back then". Much less nubspammers.

I think i'll stay happy and free spirited until I die. I hate geezers.

but your right, it is kinda because of grumpiness radiating from, mostly, about 10 people. m0p, trapt, some of the non acient members who do alot of the flaming

but your right, it is kinda because of grumpiness radiating from, mostly, about 10 people. m0p, trapt, some of the non acient members who do alot of the flaming

Okay, let's think about why people like m0p and I have become 'grumpy flamers.' Something to do with the complete noobs of 'new TWHL'? Mmm. I'm beginning to think that me and m0p's 'grumpyness' is DUE to the new TWHL, not the thing that is causing it.

I also thought I'd mention this:Thank you.

Hmm that chicken posts a good point Trapt...

/me liked Jobabob, Steinin, JB, Dizzy Devil and some others that I cant remember...

I'm quite sure that everyone'd hate Jobabob now, if he was still around. He seems a bit... like me. Or perhaps I'm a bit like him. Probably a bit like him.

or something.

Oh, and yes. The chicken was quite nice. Thanks for the relationship advice, people.

/me liked Jobabob, Steinin, JB, Dizzy Devil and some others

Save it to yourself or the thread will become who likes who,who hates who.

I'm quite sure that everyone'd hate Jobabob now, if he was still around. He seems a bit... like me. Or perhaps I'm a bit like him. Probably a bit like him.

Methinks Jobabob was a bit classier than you.

Jobabob

There's so much hatred and intolerance now at TWHL. Where is the love?

A very good question, here is my personal point of view about that :

1?) I love CS, and all people who really love CS : good players, good admins, good mappers, good strats, good maps etc...
2?) some people come, totally new in the CS community, and do shit, "fun" "maps", with weird weird names like "fy", "ka", "aim" etc, and when you tell them "omg you do shit, please make better maps", they always answer the same shit "I am a nub then it's normal I do shit", "these maps aren't well done but they are "funny"!", blabla...
3?) I see what I love turned into shit (whole pages of the servers list infested of iceworld, poolday etc, and my love is turning into hatred, very serious hatred...

And I am not talking about Valve who is slaughtering CS with Steam, CZ, CS:S etc...

Do you get it? Do you see now where my love is gone?

Nubs make everything around them going bad I tell you. Kill'em all or be turned into a zombie, you got the choice between being full of hatred of stfu forever and leave (die), but with them there is no matter of "love", with people who can't love anything else but themselves...

Hatred is like smoke and love like fire : it can't be if there wasn't first fire/love, my hatred is just a natural behavior to try to defend what I love...

And those topics often get called spam and useless and get closed. But it?s just general discussion.

agree

btw, i?ve been wondering a long time why nobody ever called "now playing" spam, is it just because seventh posted them? suck on that one for a while. Seriously, you people should think about that as spam

I consider this thread as the ultimate spamcore ever : actually nobody care about it but his own posts and just keep posting in thinking this is what keeps the forum (and themselves inside) "alive"...

if everyone stopped squallering on the past and worked about the future... d'you know where im going with this???

Valve who is slaughtering CS with Steam, CZ, CS:S etc...

That's pretty retarded. What has CS:S got to do with the original? It's not like the old CS stopped working the moment CS:S was available. You have a choice you know, stop blaming valve.

They make the community splitting, without taking any risk in this sequel : there aren't any added features, nothing, nothing at all but graphics and lame lame physics, and even the good old maps, what made CS what it is, are even not well done : some new unexpected stuff like rolling barrels, and some strategic covers removed for no reasons but has been done by nubs who only master in environmental level design but are clueless about what CS is.

CS:S could have been a whole new game, with original new features, but no, nothing, just a lame sequel to make people switch on their crappy source engine...

Steam : still infested of cheaters, all servers got at least +10 of ping, with no real improvements, nothing but monthly updates nobody ask...
CZ : exactly like CS but not CS indeed, just a strange way to split the community, to grab something they don't own, now there are twice more servers, and half less players on each ones, good...

You know, CS:S was never intended to be anything else than a port. I remember reading in an interview with a valve employee, (might have been gabe) and i quote from my memory:

"This isn't Counter-Strike 2, it's a port from the old engine to the new Source engine"

You need to go outside and take some air dude. If you don't like CS:S, play the original. it's still the most played of the different CS versions.
I seriously don't get people like you, whining all the time about Source, like valve forced you to switch game.

oh and btw. You can't be serious when you claim that the old HL engine is better than Source?

I am talking about a "bonus" : servers where I was used to go had like 50-65 before Steam, now they are like 65-90, ok Steam may not be the only factor to be considered in this case, but I strongly think Steam got something to do in this ...

"This isn't Counter-Strike 2, it's a port from the old engine to the new Source engine"

It was a stupid idea, the only one Valve found to make people buy HL2...

I seriously don't get people like you, whining all the time about Source, like valve forced you to switch game.

oh yeah ? I thought I would be able to do maps on Source, but the editor simply doesn't run on my comp (while I repeat I finished the campaign without a single slowdown), and the game is totally unsellable, because of their nazi registration...

Thats good ping. I normaly have about 300

Hi,friend.

It was a stupid idea, the only one Valve found to make people buy HL2...

I normally agree with the things you say, but I've got to be contrary here. I think CS's gameplay is quite fun, but the graphics detract from the game once you've played more modern games. CS:S looks pretty, and plays exactly the same. The only thing missing is the different player models, which they're finally sorting out (how long does it take to re-skin and flesh out six player models?).

Exactly!

some people come, totally new in the CS community, and do shit, "fun" "maps"

Well, we are all free-thinking individuals blessed with free will. I know very well that this planet is populated with dumbf**ks, but I have the ability to avoid their maps.

On my computer, the only custom CS:S maps installed are the cream of the crop ones (plus my own CS:S maps, which aren't great but they're special to me). I truly enjoy playing cs_militia and de_inferno--because they got stunning visuals and great gameplay. Sometimes I don't even play those maps. I simply load up the maps and walk around in them alone on my LAN server, admiring the mapping beauty of it all.

Yes these maps are incredibly nice-looking, I remember the first times I took a look on the screenshots (on "clicme" thumbnails), I first thought it were fake photos, like this guy did with "HL3", taking a photo of himself in the street, holding a crowbar, yes these maps are nice, but did you play them ? Did you really play them ? Man the runtimes are f###ed, the camping points, the hotzones etc, everything is different, not totally different ok, but not exactly the same. Wait wait wait, you will tell me "hey these are new maps!", but no they aren't!! these are the maps that made CS what it is, and Valve level designers, which I repeat are clueless about CS, simply didn't give a fuck and did them the way they felt them, that is the proof Valve doesn't care about CS and why I don't like them now.

They obviously think because it's pretty there's no need to worry anymore about the gameplay, "bah, give them ak and dust and new graphics effects and they will be happy...", which is an evidence of contempt to me...

I think CS's gameplay is quite fun, but the graphics detract from the game once you've played more modern games.

Yes.

CS:S looks pretty

Yes.

and plays exactly the same

No ...

I dont see where the problem is. If valve's version of CS doesnt satisfy you just play the original. Some people actually like the maps in the Source version.
Valve has not issued an update that erases your CS 1.6 files nor have they forced you to buy their Source games. I would understand it if some people complained about Quake 4 saying that Raven Software has no clue about what Quake is and they had been waiting for that game for years. But you apparently werent waiting for CS:S, so I just dont get it.

The only thing missing is the different player models, which they're finally sorting out

Except they are doing to best terrorist skin last!

Now stop talking about CS and why you hate it or why you hate valve or why you hate Steam or why you hate Source or why you hate gay or why you hate maggots blah blah blah, this isn't a CS thread. Its a recognition.
By the way, I call the drumstick in that plate of chicken.

Woohoo, this just turned into a why you hate source, steam, valve and thread.

My reason is: I just hate them donno why.

I think (notice personal prefference prefix) counter-strike 1.6 kicks counter-strike: sources ass.

Seconded.

I haven't read this whole thread, but I agree - 1.6 is way more fun than source. Source just doesn't have the same fun feel 1.6 did, and also, tons of servers use bots now, so you are never sure when you are going to be playing against real people

1.5

I prefer CS:S over the original. But I rarely play CS at all. HLDM ftw

Ok ok, stop. if you want to talk about Counert Strike make a sepearte thread PLEASE.

What is this Counert Strike of which you speak?

Okay, back on topic. IMO, TWHL still pwns every HL community, even after almost 3 years.