AHHHHHHHH!! This is ticking me off! Created 18 years ago2006-03-15 20:38:10 UTC by TigerStar TigerStar

Created 18 years ago2006-03-15 20:38:10 UTC by TigerStar TigerStar

Posted 18 years ago2006-03-15 20:38:10 UTC Post #168527
Ok, for any of you geniouses out there, I need a mega fix. I've tried everything! I'm almost sure it's because of a compile error, but I can't tell.

http://rapidshare.de/files/15607141/ClanTrainingMap.rmf.html

What isn't working is there is a red light. It is supposed to darken the place. Noclip up one floor. This is the admin place. You hit the lightswitch and it turns the lights on. That's what it used to do. After one test, it was full bright. The compile process said nothing about lights having anything wrong with them. The normal light's flags are initially dark, meaning they have to be triggered in order for them to turn on. Well, as soon as someone gets it working so you spawn and it's a dark red, then hit the lightswitch and it's brightened again, please post the download link here. Thanks.

P.S. The lightswitch is by the computer desk, to the right.

P.S.P.S Sorry, I forgot the wad file for the textures, here.

http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php?f=e9b1e0c12a9b8da98d51b975
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-15 21:14:06 UTC Post #168533
I didn't take a look at your map, but fullbright often indicates a leak. Did you see anything about leaks in your compile log?
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-15 21:32:10 UTC Post #168535
Yes, in fact. There was a leak. I could not find it though. Actually, there were more like 5 links, info_player_starts were out of the map. I fixed it, and sure enough, it still said the links were there. Does this have to do with the full bright thing?
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-15 21:37:32 UTC Post #168536
Links? do you mean leaks?
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-15 22:54:57 UTC Post #168548
I don't give a FUCK what I said before. Now's now, I really need this fixed!
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-15 23:02:13 UTC Post #168551
Why the mad answer? You weren't really clear in your previous post, which makes it difficult for us to help you...
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-15 23:25:55 UTC Post #168554
Sorry about that. I don't know why I'm so mad right now, it's not like I can't take as long as I want to make this map. What is it that you need clearer? Besides, can't someone just get the map compile it and find the same thing? It's only a cube currently! It'll be more advanced later, but for now, it's plain, easy and simple.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 00:05:40 UTC Post #168558
leaks cause lighting errors. as long as you have a leak any lights you put in your map do zip.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 00:59:01 UTC Post #168566
im looking at it now.. i cant dfind anything wrong really
what triggers bbq and dark1??
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Positive Chaos
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 01:00:13 UTC Post #168567
found it
one of your outside walls was a Func_wall
an entity
doesnt seperate world from void :)
BAM

select the wall, and hit the 'To World' button in the right panel thingy
User posted image
User posted image
tadaa...
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Positive Chaos
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 05:14:37 UTC Post #168602
Why did you bother posting that first shot? :|
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 07:42:33 UTC Post #168616
So, a leak ah? What I usually do in such situations is hiding every entity in the map (selecting them all from the entity report/manager/whateverit'scalled in Hammer) and then flying around it in the editor.
If you compile often enough, you can usually pinpoint the leak to the part you added last, so it shouldn't be too much work finding it then.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 07:54:15 UTC Post #168618
.lin file ftw. I always find my leaks with that. :)
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 08:15:52 UTC Post #168621
I tried it too but it's very confusing :)
Although i must say that it did help me to find a leak. But i prefer the big cube method.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 11:42:15 UTC Post #168665
@ seventh, it was the before and after shots of the dark and light :glad:
yeah i accidentally found it. I was in the properties window, and i clicked a wall and it said func_wall. so i hit to world and no leak :)
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Positive Chaos
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 14:51:33 UTC Post #168737
Use Leakmarker, it's really usefull, I always find my leaks with that.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 16:21:27 UTC Post #168769
i cant understand the website >.<
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Positive Chaos
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 17:32:47 UTC Post #168794
It's in german... I think. But the link to leakmarker is in English. ;)
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 17:41:23 UTC Post #168796
how's it work
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Positive Chaos
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 17:59:59 UTC Post #168800
It's very simple to use- First you need to choose the .map and point files. Then choose the color, dimentions and name of the block that will be created. And at last press mark leak and the block will be created in the map file. To find it just search for the entity with that name. ;)
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 19:45:43 UTC Post #168825
THANK YOU!! Also, Elon Yariv, thanks for that link.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 20:21:05 UTC Post #168836
NP! glad to help
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Positive Chaos
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 20:40:58 UTC Post #168842
Oh bother.. More surface extents problems! How do I find where a surface extent might be happening in Hammer?
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 21:03:47 UTC Post #168844
post the compile log
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Positive Chaos
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-16 23:12:25 UTC Post #168857
I will at about 3:50 or so northern time. What I did notice wrong with it earlier is there were.. many, many errors..
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-17 00:04:10 UTC Post #168859
hmm
i still have the map. I'll give it another compile and check it out
EDIT---
Re-Compiled. Had a look at the log, and there is nothign out of the ordinary. Unless you added other stuff to it, which is completley possible. So i guess im stuck waiting til 3:30 northern.
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Positive Chaos
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-17 18:28:10 UTC Post #169164
Ok, here it is.



** Executing...
** Command: Change Directory
** Parameters: C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsmalshadowhalf-life

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsmalshadowhalf-lifeSvenCoopmapsClanTrainingMap.map" "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsmalshadowhalf-lifeSvenCoopmapsClanTrainingMap.map"

** Executing...
** Command: C:zhlthlcsg.exe
** Parameters: "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsmalshadowhalf-lifeSvenCoopmapsClanTrainingMap"

hlcsg v3.1 rel 3.1 Beta (Mar 12 2005)

Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools 3.2.1 For Half Life 1
Based on code modifications by Sean `Zoner' Cavanaugh.
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to amckern at amckern@yahoo.com

If you have a Compile error with this stage of compile, please check
http://www.zhlt.info or the Mods Mapping Forum 'Search Function'.

----- BEGIN hlcsg -----
Command line: C:zhlthlcsg.exe "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsmalshadowhalf-lifeSvenCoopmapsClanTrainingMap"
Entering C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsmalshadowhalf-lifeSvenCoopmapsClanTrainingMap.map

Current hlcsg Settings
Name | Setting | Default
---------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
max lighting memory [ 6291456 ] [ 6291456 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
null texture stripping[ on ] [ on ]
clipnode economy mode [ on ] [ on ]
clip hull type [ legacy ] [ legacy ]
onlyents [ off ] [ off ]
wadtextures [ on ] [ on ]
skyclip [ on ] [ on ]
hullfile [ None ] [ None ]
nullfile [ None ] [ None ]
min surface area [ 0.500 ] [ 0.500 ]
brush union threshold [ 0.000 ] [ 0.000 ]

Using mapfile wad configuration
Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]

0 brushes (totalling 0 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
CreateBrush:
10%...Error: Entity 0, Brush 6: outside world(+/-4096): (128,2,4116)-(576,516,4119)
Error: brush outside world
Description: The map has a problem which must be fixed
Howto Fix: Check www.zhlt.info for a detailed explanation of this problem

Error: Entity 0, Brush 6: outside world(+/-4096): (112,-14,4080)-(592,532,4155)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 6: outside world(+/-4096): (96,-30,4084)-(608,548,4151)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 6: outside world(+/-4096): (112,-14,4098)-(592,532,4137)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 10: outside world(+/-4096): (576,2,3662)-(577,518,4119)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 10: outside world(+/-4096): (560,-14,3626)-(593,534,4155)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 10: outside world(+/-4096): (544,-30,3630)-(609,550,4151)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 10: outside world(+/-4096): (560,-14,3644)-(593,534,4137)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 11: outside world(+/-4096): (577,2,4096)-(578,518,4119)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 11: outside world(+/-4096): (561,-14,4060)-(594,534,4155)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 11: outside world(+/-4096): (545,-30,4064)-(610,550,4151)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 11: outside world(+/-4096): (561,-14,4078)-(594,534,4137)
30%...Error: Entity 0, Brush 14: outside world(+/-4096): (128,2,3415)-(576,4,4119)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 14: outside world(+/-4096): (112,-14,3379)-(592,20,4155)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 14: outside world(+/-4096): (96,-30,3383)-(608,36,4151)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 14: outside world(+/-4096): (112,-14,3397)-(592,20,4137)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 15: outside world(+/-4096): (128,516,3415)-(576,518,4119)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 15: outside world(+/-4096): (112,500,3379)-(592,534,4155)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 15: outside world(+/-4096): (96,484,3383)-(608,550,4151)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 15: outside world(+/-4096): (112,500,3397)-(592,534,4137)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 16: outside world(+/-4096): (126,2,3415)-(128,518,4119)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 16: outside world(+/-4096): (110,-14,3379)-(144,534,4155)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 16: outside world(+/-4096): (94,-30,3383)-(160,550,4151)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 16: outside world(+/-4096): (110,-14,3397)-(144,534,4137)
50%...Error: Entity 0, Brush 24: outside world(+/-4096): (577,-627,4096)-(1751,1163,4098)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 24: outside world(+/-4096): (561,-643,4060)-(1767,1179,4134)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 24: outside world(+/-4096): (545,-659,4064)-(1783,1195,4130)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 24: outside world(+/-4096): (561,-643,4078)-(1767,1179,4116)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 25: outside world(+/-4096): (563,1145,3379)-(1765,1179,4132)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 25: outside world(+/-4096): (547,1129,3383)-(1781,1195,4128)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 25: outside world(+/-4096): (563,1145,3397)-(1765,1179,4114)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 26: outside world(+/-4096): (562,-639,3377)-(1766,-605,4130)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 26: outside world(+/-4096): (546,-655,3381)-(1782,-589,4126)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 26: outside world(+/-4096): (562,-639,3395)-(1766,-605,4112)
60%...Error: Entity 0, Brush 29: outside world(+/-4096): (562,-643,3626)-(596,1179,4132)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 29: outside world(+/-4096): (546,-659,3630)-(612,1195,4128)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 29: outside world(+/-4096): (562,-643,3644)-(596,1179,4114)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30: outside world(+/-4096): (1731,-645,3379)-(1765,1177,4132)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30: outside world(+/-4096): (1715,-661,3383)-(1781,1193,4128)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30: outside world(+/-4096): (1731,-645,3397)-(1765,1177,4114)
80%... (0.80 seconds)

----- END hlcsg -----

** Executing...
** Command: C:zhlthlbsp.exe
** Parameters: "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsmalshadowhalf-lifeSvenCoopmapsClanTrainingMap"

hlbsp v3.1 rel 3.1 Beta (Mar 12 2005)

Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools 3.2.1 For Half Life 1
Based on code modifications by Sean `Zoner' Cavanaugh.
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to amckern at amckern@yahoo.com

If you have a Compile error with this stage of compile, please check
http://www.zhlt.info or the Mods Mapping Forum 'Search Function'.

----- BEGIN hlbsp -----
Command line: C:zhlthlbsp.exe "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsmalshadowhalf-lifeSvenCoopmapsClanTrainingMap"
>> There was a problem compiling the map.
>> Check the file C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsmalshadowhalf-lifeSvenCoopmapsClanTrainingMap.log for the cause.

----- END hlbsp -----

** Executing...
** Command: C:zhlthlvis.exe
** Parameters: "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsmalshadowhalf-lifeSvenCoopmapsClanTrainingMap"

hlvis v3.1 rel 3.1 Beta (Mar 12 2005)

Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools 3.2.1 For Half Life 1
Based on code modifications by Sean `Zoner' Cavanaugh.
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to amckern at amckern@yahoo.com

If you have a Compile error with this stage of compile, please check
http://www.zhlt.info or the Mods Mapping Forum 'Search Function'.

----- BEGIN hlvis -----
Command line: C:zhlthlvis.exe "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsmalshadowhalf-lifeSvenCoopmapsClanTrainingMap"
>> There was a problem compiling the map.
>> Check the file C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsmalshadowhalf-lifeSvenCoopmapsClanTrainingMap.log for the cause.

----- END hlvis -----

** Executing...
** Command: C:zhlthlrad.exe
** Parameters: "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsmalshadowhalf-lifeSvenCoopmapsClanTrainingMap"

hlrad v3.1 rel 3.1 Beta (Mar 12 2005)

Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools 3.2.1 For Half Life 1
Based on code modifications by Sean `Zoner' Cavanaugh.
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to amckern at amckern@yahoo.com

If you have a Compile error with this stage of compile, please check
http://www.zhlt.info or the Mods Mapping Forum 'Search Function'.

----- BEGIN hlrad -----
Command line: C:zhlthlrad.exe "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsmalshadowhalf-lifeSvenCoopmapsClanTrainingMap"
>> There was a problem compiling the map.
>> Check the file C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsmalshadowhalf-lifeSvenCoopmapsClanTrainingMap.log for the cause.

----- END hlrad -----


Should I re-host the map? Or do you know how I may fix this?

EDIT: Wait, I may know the problem. I just rechecked the map out, and yes, I see the entities outside of the world.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-17 18:31:18 UTC Post #169167
Brushes outside world error all over the place...

Here, check this page. And bookmark that site. ;)
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-17 18:32:51 UTC Post #169168
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-17 19:12:02 UTC Post #169178
All right, I got those errors fixed. Now a new problem.

This is an extra room I added on. There is a door going to it, but without any funtions currently.
User posted image
This is in game. Behind that door, there is nothing. The previous picture shows there is really a room there. Basically you noclip out of the map if you noclip into that room. Any ideas?
User posted image
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-17 19:52:17 UTC Post #169183
What exactly are you doing there? Is that door a solid brush or an entity? You should lead a corridor to that room and actually physically attach its inside to the inside of the current room. Take a look at the beginners tutorials at this site if you're wondering how to do this.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-17 20:14:22 UTC Post #169187
All right, this is just screwed up. I've added a coridoor. Still not working!

Note: The wadfile is on page 1 at the top.

http://rapidshare.de/files/15766151/ClanTrainingMap.rmf.html

Could someone download this and check what's wrong?
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-18 02:39:10 UTC Post #169221
ill take a look at it.. i still dont know what you're trying to accomplish

EDIT!!

Ok i found the problem.
The second room is completley sealed off from the rest of the level. There is just a box with nothing in it.. No entities or anything.

Here's what you should do.

#1 Never go below 8units for making the level (unless its detail)
#2 As said above, make the door actually a door and put a light entity in that room. Be careful though. Because your 'door' brush touches the void.
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Positive Chaos
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-18 12:19:15 UTC Post #169317
Alright, thanks. I'll stop being such a nuesince then.
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