Advanced Brushwork Mini-Compos

Soup Miner

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-11 02:54:11 UTC Post #189651

I've started off with this:

So much on so little:

I'm using more than 12 wad files, the sidewalks are 32 units wide and all textures have been scaled down to .25. I'm also planning to have both an urban and rural area for this city(both a business and residential area) I've yet to add traffic lights, fire hydrants, finish the parking garage, and a crapload of other things before I start on more buildings. Bring on the opposing cities, bitches. Skyscrapers for the WIN.

Soup Miner

srry

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-11 03:21:32 UTC Post #189653

I'm not even entering anymore, for two reasons.

Reason 1: WCD will whoop all our asses.

Reason 2: I hate everything about my current city.

I hope I'll like the other minicompos better.

srry

Elon Yariv

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-11 06:25:24 UTC Post #189671

You'll never enter a compo with that attitude. Just post a city, doesn't matter if you like it or not. I did the same once and I won.

Elon Yariv

srry

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-11 06:40:00 UTC Post #189673

There's little chance I could finish the city by the time the compo is over, as I have about 1/10 of it complete. I don't even have a clear grasp of what I want it to look like, and I'm not compelled to continue working on it.

Sorry, but this is just one of those things I lost interest in rather quickly.

srry

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-11 07:09:43 UTC Post #189675

Elon gives good advice.

Just do as much as you can, and submit it as "unfinished" if you have to.

Please, think of the children :tears:

rowleybob

VOX

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-11 09:58:53 UTC Post #189692

I liked the improve a room compo better. This one is too long term.

VOX

Soup Miner

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-11 13:23:30 UTC Post #189705

I really don't want to be posting my progress on this, but I just had to post this because its so funny to run around a little city.

Freakin' splitting on the building. Bah.
Progress posting stops here--------

Soup Miner

The Mad Carrot

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-11 15:55:06 UTC Post #189723

Crap, this all got me interested, i feel like entering, but im not home yet...

I hate this MAC

The Mad Carrot

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-11 21:26:44 UTC Post #189752

Jeez WCD, that looks great!

VOX: I agree that the term is a little too long, but it's so much fun/different, it's well worth it imo.

I hope we make the term for the next one really short. Speaking of which, are we having the winner of this compo choose the next compo to follow tradition, or are we doing Muzzie's next?

rowleybob

Elon Yariv

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 03:18:45 UTC Post #189763

No, let me think of one!

Elon Yariv

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 06:54:16 UTC Post #189776

My entry is still very slow going, but this is definitely lots of fun

It's not exactly a city, but I suppose a small urban college campus qualifies to some extent:

Captain P: Maybe we can incorporate this with the countdown timer

rowleybob

VOX

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 10:59:31 UTC Post #189799

No I mean the mapping is too much effort and the purpose isn't right. Look at the title

Advanced Brushwork MiniCompos

this isn't advanced brushwork at all! The next compo had better be the improve a room one. With one week to map.

VOX

Captain P

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 11:44:46 UTC Post #189802

Depends on what you call 'advanced' of course - this compo is quite tiny-brush heavy. Plus, you can decide the size of your city part yourself, a larger map isn't necessarily a better one. Well, perhaps I shouldn't have emphasized the custom content usage so much (especially models).
But, you can't please everyone, so yeah, better luck next compo.

Looks nice, WCD and rowley.

Captain P

pepper

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 13:42:00 UTC Post #189808

Here's a video of yours truly taking a gentle strawl trough GT_LVC(Gran Turismo Little van City(Little Vansterdam, i believe its Vancouver from what the creator told me). The driving was horrible and way to slow, also fraps clipped the screen but that was my error.

Hope ya'll like it, gotta love this map, so much more to explorer, i only showed a small part of the map in this video.

Hosted by youtube.com.

clickey

pepper

Soup Miner

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 16:56:39 UTC Post #189848

Who all is actually in this? I only know for certain that its me and Rowley.

Soup Miner

n00b #2

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 17:07:04 UTC Post #189849

and me

n00b #2

Unbreakable

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 17:07:14 UTC Post #189850

Detail... OOOOooooOOOOoOOOoooooo
/me drools

But, no time atm.

I made a city a while ago for HS.. 1 Sec..

Found them, sorry some are lacking detail.. I've grown so much from then.. those were done months ago if not years.. lol

http://twhl.co.za/forums.php?action=viewthread&str=Hostage+Situation&type=1&pg=8&id=6363
http://twhl.co.za/forums.php?action=viewthread&str=Hostage+Situation&type=1&pg=9&id=6363

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Unbreakable

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 17:25:08 UTC Post #189863

wait.. its a miniature city...!

argh.. just a sec... jeez

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Soup Miner

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 17:25:18 UTC Post #189864

Are those the unused kingpin textures?(They look familiar)

Soup Miner

Unbreakable

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 17:34:47 UTC Post #189865

Not sure.. there Blaz..
Heres my Miniature City entry.. Sorry for the terrible host.. it's my old website.. lol
http://www.geocities.com/mv85_19/city.html

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n00b #2

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 18:00:10 UTC Post #189868

so this was already made before the compo?

n00b #2

srry

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 19:22:23 UTC Post #189873

But does it still stick to the 32 units-per-floor rule? Otherwise, I don't think you'd be able to enter it...

srry

Soup Miner

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 22:20:59 UTC Post #189880

Blast this stupid street. I curse this day!

Soup Miner

srry

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 22:24:50 UTC Post #189881

HAHA! It's not that hard to do, if you know how...

srry

Soup Miner

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 22:37:40 UTC Post #189882

Yeah, I just realized how simple it was to fix. A bit of a brain fart there.

Soup Miner

n00b #2

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-12 23:30:55 UTC Post #189885

Should've asked me how to do that

dj.chamoru.googlepages.com

Projects section have the recent screenshots from my work.

n00b #2

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-13 00:19:30 UTC Post #189889

this isn't advanced brushwork at all!

You can incorporate advanced brushing in any map you make, but I think I see what you mean. Besides, this is definitely a great exercise, going about mapping in an entirely different way--no interiors, smaller scale, etc.

I was envisioning more of a fancy prop or prefab contest, but, I'm sure we can do those too, and with shorter terms--maybe 4 days or something.

Votes on how we'll decide the next compo?

1. Let the winner decide.
2. Just let someone new host/choose the compo each time.
3. Go with the best, new idea, regardless.

Pepper: that looks cool as hell... is the scale similar to ours in that game?

Unby: I remember those screenies... really cool!

rowleybob

VOX

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-13 00:25:19 UTC Post #189890

I have some excellent ideas for the next compo, but I'll wait until this one is finished to release them

VOX

Soup Miner

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-13 20:02:56 UTC Post #189992

I know there is a timer on the info page but I just want to be absolutely sure. The deadline is Friday 8:00 pm(US eastern time), right?

Soup Miner

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-13 20:07:45 UTC Post #189993

Yup. It's 8:04pm EST now, and there's a little less than 24 hours left, so...

rowleybob

RotatorSplint

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-13 21:07:17 UTC Post #189997

Wow, I'm looking at this and I'm envious! I only map for source, and i want to partisipate in it, but i havent got hl1, and even if i did, time's almost up... Do you suppose any1 could host somthing like this for source?

I find this so enthralling because I'm still somewhat... n00bish to maping, and mini compos would be a great way to learn more and compare what i learn to others' work! I really dont want to work on one giant map that takes months to produce when i could be making several works with different goals in mind for each one and learning different techniques each time.

Dont get me wrong, compos like these can be equally challenging as the major ones, but in equal time, you can cover so many more!

The major compos like the source one going on now are still above my head and take to long (in my opinion) to get much satisfaction out of doing them, so somthing like this in the source forum would be great!

Happy mapping and gool luck to all the mappers competing!

RotatorSplint

VOX

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-13 22:05:32 UTC Post #190001

I don't mean to burst your bubble but these are generally harder. Because we are dealing with advanced brushwork you might not be able to keep up with it. And you only have about a week so you have to already know how to do everything, no learning involved, and fast too.

VOX

n00b #2

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-13 22:06:48 UTC Post #190002

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I still have to make a school and hotel and... a grocery store.. but the whole city is surrounded by walls! Under my control :)..

pfft.. im still learning

n00b #2

RotatorSplint

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-13 22:08:02 UTC Post #190003

that doesnt mean i cant try:

i dont have hl1 and it's too late to start the major compo, so y not give it a shot? Regardless of MY skill level, i am sure many other source mappers would have fun taking part

The learning doesnt just happen by asking in the forums during the alloted time, it happens after, viewing eachother's work and techniques and chatting about it. of course, i may not learn actual mapping techniques like how to 'make this brush perform this function', but how to make the level more fun/realistic.

RotatorSplint

Soup Miner

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-13 22:41:25 UTC Post #190007

My city is nearing 4000 wpoly

Soup Miner

n00b #2

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-13 23:12:41 UTC Post #190008

I cant even compile right now

I think i might just cut off the things I was thinkign about adding

n00b #2

Soup Miner

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-13 23:32:37 UTC Post #190009

I'll do a run through your rmf for errors if you want to.

Soup Miner

n00b #2

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-14 01:12:27 UTC Post #190013

oh no... I was just saying I had cliped a few things here and there and if i were to enclose the map in It would have some hinderance.. well just very cumbersome.. hmm..
Apparently I've made a hl2 feel in this map.. like City 17.

Combine Soldiers ftw!

n00b #2

VOX

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-14 02:12:35 UTC Post #190023

Nice enthusiasm

but you do know this is for hl1 so your efforts are for nothing.

VOX

Captain P

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-14 04:44:24 UTC Post #190042

Rowley, I'd say we simply vote for the best idea. I think that allows the most popular compo's.

The idea behind my original map, and therefor the example map that sort of started this compo, is my interest in RTS game development. By creating such a map, I aimed to get a better understanding of (urban) RTS environments. I'm creating some unit models now and then too, just to get a feeling for it. I think it's quite a challenging thing, such level-design, since most RTS'es use a heightmap and depend on models for the rest of it. Quite a different method. Combining both modelling and level-design into one package sounds more interesting the more I think about this.

Captain P

pepper

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-14 06:00:42 UTC Post #190051

definately, just look at games like battlefield series and farcry. They use the same technique.

pepper

Unbreakable

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-14 16:34:25 UTC Post #190102

Advanced brushwork? We're making miniature cities. There's nothing advanced about that. :

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Captain P

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-14 16:55:11 UTC Post #190107

Then what's your definition of 'advanced brushwork', Ubreakable?

I don't say this is advanced or so, however, nobody's stopping you from doing advanced stuff in a miniature city.

Captain P

Soup Miner

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-14 17:22:11 UTC Post #190108

http://twhl.co.za/mapvault_map.php?id=4022
This is my entry. I've also PMed it to you, Captain P.
I really wish that I could have added the residential area that I had planned on having from the start but I didn't have enough time(curse the clock!), so I just finished it off as [another] purely downtown area.

Soup Miner

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-14 20:07:46 UTC Post #190122

In.

rowleybob

n00b #2

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-14 20:33:47 UTC Post #190124

http://dj.chamoru.googlepages.com/Minicitycompo.zip

made it...

n00b #2

Gunter

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-14 20:45:48 UTC Post #190125

Would any source mappers be interested in doing something like this if the next compo turns out to be for HL1?

Oh, and n00b #2, your download keeps stopping in the middle. Not sure if the problem has to do with your hosting or my internet connection. Just thought I'd point it out.

Gunter

Soup Miner

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-14 20:57:04 UTC Post #190126

Works fine for me.

Soup Miner

srry

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-14 21:09:42 UTC Post #190127

I second that.

srry

Penguinboy

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-14 21:13:06 UTC Post #190128

Gunter: definately!
maybe do something creative with displacements or something

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

Advanced Brushwork Mini-Compos Created 18 years ago2006-07-06 16:53:13 UTC by rowleybob