Valve SDK Update
Created 18 years ago2006-08-04 19:04:27 UTC by
satchmo
Created 18 years ago2006-08-04 19:04:27 UTC by
satchmo
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-04 19:04:27 UTC
Post #192495
Has anyone tried the new SDK? Are all the bugs fixed?
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-04 19:30:59 UTC
Post #192496
I cant see in my 3d view anymore in hammer! Its all black. I wait thinking its loading, but to no avail! What the FUCK!!!! Maps take double to load now too in the SDK! Anyone getting this too?
Ive been reading on the VAlve forums and others are having this problem too
Ive been reading on the VAlve forums and others are having this problem too
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-04 19:58:17 UTC
Post #192497
Gonna try some things now...I hope they fixed rotating objects...This better not be just an Episode One config...
Error no. 1: Missing gameinfo.txt in sourcemods folder...Ahem...
Error no. 2: Missing another gameinfo...
Error no. 3: And now another!!!!
And again...It keeps saying missing gameinfo in folders like maps, materials etc...Not too happy with this...
Right sorted...But now I am even more annoyed cause i have to manually change this:
O, I see HL2 Episode 1 in my list now...
Opens up...First error...Can't see anything in the 3D view...Thank God this didn't happen as I finished up my compo map. The rotation tool is still broken...
Places an NPC_Fisherman and it brings up Barney...And NPC_Furniture?...I see Ministrider as well...And at last the Zombine. I placed a ministrider and Hammer crashed. Hunter is gonna love this...<_>
Well done Valve - I owe you a beer.
Error no. 1: Missing gameinfo.txt in sourcemods folder...Ahem...
Error no. 2: Missing another gameinfo...
Error no. 3: And now another!!!!
And again...It keeps saying missing gameinfo in folders like maps, materials etc...Not too happy with this...
Right sorted...But now I am even more annoyed cause i have to manually change this:
Opens up...First error...Can't see anything in the 3D view...Thank God this didn't happen as I finished up my compo map. The rotation tool is still broken...
Places an NPC_Fisherman and it brings up Barney...And NPC_Furniture?...I see Ministrider as well...And at last the Zombine. I placed a ministrider and Hammer crashed. Hunter is gonna love this...<_>
Well done Valve - I owe you a beer.
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-04 20:01:42 UTC
Post #192498
God damn Im really pissed! I had to change the text files too on Twilight Parallax mod, and Garrys Mod 9.
They better fix the black 3d window! Wow just when I had a really good idea for my map!!! ARGH!!!
They better fix the black 3d window! Wow just when I had a really good idea for my map!!! ARGH!!!
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-04 20:07:50 UTC
Post #192500
Do these errors happen when you reload the SKD?
I'm compiling the compo map, so I won't close Hammer until it's done, just in case...
I'm compiling the compo map, so I won't close Hammer until it's done, just in case...
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-04 20:46:07 UTC
Post #192503
no black 3d window, no gameinfo errors, only the changing the appID, and im not even gunna do that, except for my own mod files.
valve wins!
just so everyone knows im running a nvidia 6600GT.
ati users seem to get all the problems, eh?
valve wins!
just so everyone knows im running a nvidia 6600GT.
ati users seem to get all the problems, eh?
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-04 20:49:11 UTC
Post #192505
I use a 6800 GT and get these problems..........
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-04 21:26:58 UTC
Post #192507
I'm not even gonna touch the update untill this all is resolved. 
EDIT:
Oh, gee, thanks Steam for putting the update on my computer... now i cant map
EDIT:
Oh, gee, thanks Steam for putting the update on my computer... now i cant map
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-04 23:58:20 UTC
Post #192514
To fix the 3D view just pick like 3D textured in the dropdown. Fixed it for me.
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 01:28:10 UTC
Post #192517
To fix balck 3D window just create new camera with camera tool.
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 06:40:09 UTC
Post #192536
At first I didn't understand the camera fix...But I had no idea you could make static cameras...Cool. Simply click on the gridlines with the camera tool and then it will fix...Will I have to do this everytime...
The answer is yes...And now all my floors are ultra shiny in Hammer...
The answer is yes...And now all my floors are ultra shiny in Hammer...
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 06:46:30 UTC
Post #192537
hahahaha!
What did i tell you? Hammer 4 is shit
Come back to HL1 and Hammer 3.5 like good little boys.
What did i tell you? Hammer 4 is shit
Come back to HL1 and Hammer 3.5 like good little boys.
Hunter is gonna love this...you have no idea just how much
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 07:20:33 UTC
Post #192538
Well at least Valve gave us the cs_militia vmf...Also we can see overlays now..The huge block in the middle is transparent.
The new 3D lighting preview isn't working either and the point_spotlight is easier to click. Logic view lets you see how entities are connected supposedly.
To fix most prblems, run HL2, CSS etc before modding.
Oh and the 3D model viewer is faster.
The new 3D lighting preview isn't working either and the point_spotlight is easier to click. Logic view lets you see how entities are connected supposedly.
To fix most prblems, run HL2, CSS etc before modding.
Oh and the 3D model viewer is faster.
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 07:28:49 UTC
Post #192539
Logic view lets you see how entities are connected supposedly.Doesn't the old Hammer have a "show connections" option? Is this different?
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 07:41:18 UTC
Post #192542
have they fixed the problem where the tool after rotation (what is it called) goes in between the grid lines?
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 07:44:14 UTC
Post #192543
The rotation tool is still broken...No idea Kasperg.
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 08:02:24 UTC
Post #192544
What's wrong with the rotation tool?
(I'm using an ATi card and I have no problems)
(I'm using an ATi card and I have no problems)
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 08:06:03 UTC
Post #192545
Another reason why i don't map for Source.
Long live HL1!
Long live HL1!
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 08:30:22 UTC
Post #192549
not the rotation tool... the one after it.. i used to call it the perspective tool, but i dont think that's its actual name
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 08:49:26 UTC
Post #192551
Where is the rotation tool?
Or do you mean when you click a brush twice and you get the squares in the middle?
What's wrong with it?
Or do you mean when you click a brush twice and you get the squares in the middle?
What's wrong with it?
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 08:56:59 UTC
Post #192553
But here some new interesting things - in prop_static models there to new params (about selfshading and lightning (?)) . I map for some hours and have no problems with cameras - only leafs on my trees models dont shown in 3D.
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 09:05:23 UTC
Post #192554
Rotation tool when you rotate something but if you told tab is rotates 45 degrees. This does not work any more...So it's hard to align objects.
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 09:16:54 UTC
Post #192555
Rotating an object 45 degrees isn't rocket science.
Just rotate it so it's half way....
The rotate tool isn't good anyway, it just throws the vertices off the grid. I use the vertex tool to rotate brushes.
Just rotate it so it's half way....
The rotate tool isn't good anyway, it just throws the vertices off the grid. I use the vertex tool to rotate brushes.
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 09:18:31 UTC
Post #192556
It may not be but it saves seconds when rotating something to quickly clip or vertix. Then you can simply rotate back without having to zoom in and check if it's straight. Which most of the time isn't...
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 09:21:08 UTC
Post #192557
Have you got this option enabled?
Tools > Options > 2D View > Default to 15 degree rotations
Tools > Options > 2D View > Default to 15 degree rotations
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 09:42:18 UTC
Post #192559
Those idiots! All this time I've mapped in pain and it was a simple option...They messed with my Hammer for the last time. Offline mode from now on.
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 10:01:10 UTC
Post #192561
Lol, it's off by default Habboi 
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 10:31:30 UTC
Post #192562
Nice! Putting a camera in the 2D view worked 
Teh awsome!
Teh awsome!
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 11:36:14 UTC
Post #192564
Im just happy about how the new model browser isn't REALLLLY slow.. But it will take a slight getting used to.. Not much I would think.
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 11:50:48 UTC
Post #192566
Neither the camera trick nor the texture trick works for me, instead (after trying both) I get this:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j152/RotatorSplint/screwey_hammer.jpg
The 1st time, it made the other 2d views go black, the second time, it pasted the lower left's picture into all the other views (seen in the picture). I wonder if this will affect the Source Compo?
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j152/RotatorSplint/screwey_hammer.jpg
The 1st time, it made the other 2d views go black, the second time, it pasted the lower left's picture into all the other views (seen in the picture). I wonder if this will affect the Source Compo?
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 12:34:44 UTC
Post #192574
The Source compo is over 
Anyway another error:
If you map and then minimize to say chat with a friend on MSN...After maximising again...Hammer crashes.
Anyway another error:
If you map and then minimize to say chat with a friend on MSN...After maximising again...Hammer crashes.
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 12:37:00 UTC
Post #192575
Can't even start source SDK after the update.
What on earth is Valve doing? :
What on earth is Valve doing? :
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 12:38:20 UTC
Post #192577
I don't know if I'm lucky or somethin' but the only error I got was the gameinfo.txt one. I haven't had a problem w/ hammer yet, though I've only used it once and I loaded it through a shortcut, not the SDK window (don't really use it).
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 12:40:42 UTC
Post #192579
The gameinfo error has added a load of random mods in my Steams list like maps, cgi etc...ARGH and it crashes so easily! I CAN'T MAP! I'm not one to bash Valve cause while everyone else had problems and I didn't...But now I am getting errors and that my good lads...bites the dust on this one.
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 12:41:15 UTC
Post #192580
I don't know if I'm lucky or somethin' but the only error I got was the gameinfo.txtThat's the error which stops me from getting in.
How did you fix it?
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 13:39:18 UTC
Post #192586
Neither the camera trick nor the texture trick works for me, instead (after trying both) I get this:Looks like you got screwy gfx card drivers or something :S
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j152/R
otatorSplint/screwey_hammer.jpg
The 1st time, it made the other 2d views go black, the second time, it pasted the lower left's picture into all the other views (seen in the picture). I wonder if this will affect the Source Compo?
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 14:02:25 UTC
Post #192588
You can also get the 3D view to display by selecting an object in any 2D view and press ctrl-shift-e to focus the camera on the object.
EDIT: also, restart windows after the downdate.. oops, update.. to (apparently) resolve some launch problems with Hammer, Steam launching, etc.
EDIT: also, restart windows after the downdate.. oops, update.. to (apparently) resolve some launch problems with Hammer, Steam launching, etc.
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 15:06:14 UTC
Post #192591
That's the error which stops me from getting in.gameinfo.txt in a text document in the game folder (say HL2, it's in Half-Life 2hl2...CS:S, it's in counter-strike sourcecstrike). Just open it in notepad or whatever, search for SteamAppId and change it's value to 215. Simple.
How did you fix it?
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 15:23:38 UTC
Post #192593
Looks like you got screwy gfx card drivers or something :SIll look into it: I havent updated in about 2 months, so perhaps I'm outta date. Who knows? Maybe it could fix it.
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 16:34:43 UTC
Post #192595
I just discovered an odd error that's come up since the update but I'm not sure if it's related. Before when I went to use hammer, I only had Steam open and hidden in the system tray (didn't bother opening the SDK), and opened hammer from a desktop shortcut. Now, I can't even open the app directly w/o the SDK open or I get this error:
I can still play all my games, so the problem isn't w/ Steam itself.
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 16:45:47 UTC
Post #192596
Well everyone else I know said shortcuts don't work.
But of course you need the SDK open when using Hammer...
But of course you need the SDK open when using Hammer...
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 17:14:10 UTC
Post #192598
Wow, reflections that are masked are not visible in hammer anymore. Its one crappy looking reflection now. I really hate this fuckin update!
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-05 18:49:54 UTC
Post #192606
likewise: non-reflective textures (IE, textures I haven't cubemapped yet) glisten in full, reflective glory. Rather annoying, but it doesnt show up in-game, and it's rather interesting to look at
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-06 19:45:52 UTC
Post #192715
It's official..Valve have messed it up...
In Hammer textures appear double their scale but if you fit it and try it in-game then it comes out too small...Argh!
In Hammer textures appear double their scale but if you fit it and try it in-game then it comes out too small...Argh!
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-06 19:47:58 UTC
Post #192716
Also, Hammer used to display masked reflections in the editor. Now masked reflections appear as just regular reflections, but 10 times brighter. Its hard to work with the bright reflections shining all over my mountian when it should be masked........
I have not experienced that Habboi. Maybe your default texture size in the tools menu is set higher or lower than 0.25?
I have not experienced that Habboi. Maybe your default texture size in the tools menu is set higher or lower than 0.25?
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-06 21:02:09 UTC
Post #192717
whoever released this thing obviously didnt test it well enough and is officially batshit fucking loco
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-07 06:54:11 UTC
Post #192737
>_< - Lame.
No Xy, my scale has always been 0.25 and all the textures appear too big, at least any new textures I make aka a new wall with some texture like brickwall/1. They appear double their size and it's annoying, I can't add much to my map...Oh and double wtf to the fact that I made two rooms and only one appeared in the map, I nocliped everywhere.
And now this caught my eye:
[quote]Level flags = 0
Win32 Specific Data:
physics [variable] 240156/4194304 ( 5.7%)
Writing c:documents and settingsdelldesktopco-opversion2.bsp
44 seconds elapsed[/quote]
I wonder what Level Flags is?
No Xy, my scale has always been 0.25 and all the textures appear too big, at least any new textures I make aka a new wall with some texture like brickwall/1. They appear double their size and it's annoying, I can't add much to my map...Oh and double wtf to the fact that I made two rooms and only one appeared in the map, I nocliped everywhere.
And now this caught my eye:
[quote]Level flags = 0
Win32 Specific Data:
physics [variable] 240156/4194304 ( 5.7%)
Total Win32 BSP file data space used: 2273367 bytes
Total triangle count: 7286Writing c:documents and settingsdelldesktopco-opversion2.bsp
44 seconds elapsed[/quote]
I wonder what Level Flags is?
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-09 21:13:20 UTC
Post #192963
Does anyone know if/how they're comin' on fixin' these problems? I, like most of you, would like to get back to my mappin'.
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-09 21:18:58 UTC
Post #192965
I also ran into another problem that never happened before the update. In material .vmt files, "$basealphaenvmapmask" "texturefoldername/texturename. This line tells source to go the the alpha channel of the material for a reflective mask (If the texttures only has a reflection and no bumpmap) Now, the material glitches in hammer when I use this for masking. Now, Im really pissed because now I have to bumpmap every texture and place the reflective mask in the alpha channel of the bumpmap.
Argh!
Argh!
Posted 18 years ago2006-08-09 22:12:33 UTC
Post #192967
I'm pissed 'cuz I can't do a thing w/ Hammer. Every time I try to load one of my maps, Hammer goes black and freezes. What baffles me is hlcoders mentions how they were testing it in house and it wouldn't be released if it was buggy. How the fuck did all these bugs mak it past VALVe? What the fuck are they paying their coders for? Granted that I know very little about coding and the process for their in-house testing, but how did all this shit slip by them? Honestly, did they test it w/ their eyes closed? They said it was a beta release, but I pray they fix it soon.
Yes, I am being a major ass and shit, but I still think a release that sends a program from the rare glitch to impossible to LOAD, you're not really doin' a good job. Chew me out if you want, but I stand by my comments.
Yes, I am being a major ass and shit, but I still think a release that sends a program from the rare glitch to impossible to LOAD, you're not really doin' a good job. Chew me out if you want, but I stand by my comments.
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