Valve SDK Update Created 18 years ago2006-08-04 19:04:27 UTC by satchmo

Pfft, I wouldn't disown you. In fact, I would agree with you. Lately, I havent been doing much else except playing BF2 (I'm sure some of you can understand ), but from what I've seen, this release totaly sucks. How COULD all of these bugs and issues get by their testing? Did they test it on only one computer!?!?!

This isn't a first either; earlier this year, the patch being released for the HL2DM Tournament that was supposed to remove some exploits, such as the grav-gun jump, screwed up royaly. What has valvE come to???

my SDK is working perfectly, in fact I'm enjoying the faster model veiwer quite a bit.

Nyah nyah.

http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=182671

This fixes the displacement until we get a proper fix...

The SDK is working fine for me as well, which is a welcome change after the bug that a bunch of ATI users had to endure for months.

After habbymoo told me how to fix the gameconfig.txt thing it's working great for me aswell..
I have had a total of 0 errors so far!

I just love how displacements allows props to fall through them and how texture scales are all over the place and how Hammer crashes if you minimize to desktop...Oh and how it takes longer to load maps...

Thanks Valve. <3

OMG thanks Habboi! I ran into this problem recently with physics objects clipping through displacements. I thought it was a material error on my part, but I guess not. That command will fix the clipping you say?

Thanks

Anyway, I dont want to blame valve too much. Every company has their faults, and problems. Considering what Valve has done good, I still hold them as one of the best developers in the game industry

If physics objects are falling trough displacements, add
-novirtualmesh in the bsp compile settings. It reverts displacements to the older version.

MY hammer works (apart from physics objects are falling trough displacements and slow map loading) untill it crashes (average time till crash:2 min)
I want to downdate my hammer...

Yeah. I can't open my old maps and it crashed after 2 mins when I tried to start fresh...and all I had was one brush that I was trying to view w/ the camera!

Much of the issues all of you are having are addressed here:

http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_SDK_Known_Issues

Unfortunately some of the issues dont have a solution until the next update.

Wha wha wha..........

Anyway, hope that helps

Well, now I'd be able to start a new map (if I had any new ideas ). Thanx for that Xyos. I'm still pissed that I can't open any of my old maps though. Let's hope the update is worth all this suffering...for those of use who CAN'T use Hammer...luck bastards...

When are they fixing it?...They brake it...they fix it now!

lol... I like the shiny concrete....

I think there's an update planned for today (Fri). I can't say for sure, but it would make sense that they what to fix their fuck-up as soon as possible.

Nice one valve!
Well they have done someting with func_tank 's that has fucked up my large turret (twin gattling cannons, rockets ect) Not sure how but they won't fire anymore

They just updated it like 15 minutes ago. I just re-opened steam and it updated! I wonder whats been fixed.....

3d view is still broken.
And so everyone knows the last value (wasn't it "bullets" befor? Any way it says "ammo type" now) needs resetting in func_tanks.

THe 3D window really isnt a problem. Just set a camera anywhere and save. THe displacement clipping was a problem that needed to be fixed big time....

they added "combine heavy cannon" to func_tank "ammo type" but if you serlect it your turret just seems to use the smg ammo.

Just updated and opened the SDK and haleluya my maps open. I can get back to work.

So they have fixed most of it? I can't look tonight but I hope so...

Seem to have fixed some of the issues. Still room for improvement thou imo.

Btw, since the megaton glitch bomb that was the Aug 4th update, has anyone else been able to open cs_militia, even w/ the 'new' version that came w/ this update? I still crash when opening it and I'd like to have a look at it.

Militia's fried for me.

I just got a nice new problem: upon the end of a compile, when HL2DM is supposed to autostart, DM "encounters an error and needs to close."

I can still access my map by manualy starting DM though.

then do that... starting straight from hammer is pretty pointless if you ask me

Well, yeah, it's not a problem, it's just anoying

starting straight from hammer is pretty pointless if you ask me

Um... why?

Its always been a problem starting a map from inside hammer after a compile, just tick the flag "don't start the game" in the compile parameters dialog.

Yeah...Causes errors if you auto start...Do it the manly way.

Another bug with the last update is that you can't open .map files, not that you could before, the map always appeared empty after loading anyway.

bring back worldcraft!1

I wasn't talking about mapping for Half-life with hammer 4.1, but converting a map from hl1 to hl2, which is now impossible without a 3rd party tool converting it, aldo i've asked Nem if he could create such a tool.

? I open .map files all the time? Yes this is Source hammer I'm using...

Just noticed that they haven't fixwd the problems w/ domes and such. The VM's I made for this office window (see pic) rearranged themselves after my save.

Yeah, I get that issue too. It depends on the VM used. I believe HL had the same bug, which was reportedly fixed by HLFix (according to Tommy's site). Not sure why it does that, it's a pain in the ass.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=476175
What does everybody think of this? I think its great since we could roll back to a version of the SDK where everything works properly.
Too bad the 2 mods have broken down the idea, everybody follows mods :(.

I don't know about the follback feature. Valve would have to change Steam itself as Steam was initially created as a way of automatically getting the latest updates out to everyone, from what I understand.

And yes Ant, Hammer 3.x had a similar problem that HLFix took care of. The problem there was that when compiling w/ VM's the didn't end up of a proper coord (say u scaled somethin' and the verticies didn't align right),
HLFix stopped Hammer from 'properly' aligning them.

The problem w/ the SDK I doubt can be fixed by anyone other than Valve. I VMed that nice domed window there (all points are on locked coordinated, as in no decimals; also, anyone who wants to see it will need to play Dystopia, it's a map for that mod), I saved it for the night. When I loaded it the next day, Hammer had misaligned many of the vertices from as little as .1 or .2 units off, to b/w 2 and 4 units. It's not very complex, and I don't know how to model. It make me wonder how Valve created any brushes w/ the slightest bit of complexity.

Simple: They didn't have this crappy update when they made HL2 .

I had a similar issue. I was working on a high-detail brush to hold a window in place. Albeit, they were invalid brushes , but after the compile, and after I reloaded the map, the vertices were all thrown off, and I had to redo the whole thing (though that was inevitable ). Regardless of the fact that they were bad brushes, I've never seen brush vertices thrown off after a comile and relaod : .

My VM's were proper. It's the damnedest thing having to work w/ this problem. If it only occured when u compiled, someone could simply write a version of HLFix for Source. However, w/o even compiling, just create/save reload, this happens. U can see the b4 and after in my pic, plus I zoomed in on one of the areas and placed a 1x1 selection box to display the range of the change.

to get a 3d view you gota click on the little red camera, then click somewhere in the GRID VIEW, hold it down, drag for like a centimeter et voila you get a 3d view that you can actually use!

We determined that already .

In a slight way I'm glad Valve messed Hammer...I learnt about this camera trick and now when I start maps...I can start where I left off! WOO!

Tawnos: How did you make that dome? I'm trying to think how...I'm guessing an arch that was vertixed?

Yep, used a 90 degree arch w/ 5 sides and shifted the the top/bottom layers (depending on poision relative to flat middle) inward. Use manual VM, so I know where I placed them are proper coordinates.