Complex elevator troubles Created 18 years ago2006-10-23 10:48:35 UTC by Kinrah

Back again, this time with an elevator related problem. I followed the instructions in the tutorial 'Elevators with moving doors' but adding a separate multimanager for the lower doors, because I was including some func_doors on the outside of the actual elevator that would fire about a tenth of a second before the inner doors, making it like an RL elevator. Only trouble is, I press the button, moment's wait, outer doors close, inner doors close, elevator sounds start, doors take off down the shaft, leaving the lift behind it, and after a bit one of the outer doors opens again. The elevator in the meantime doesn't appear to be moving at all.

I've traced the outer door opening to a missing flag, but I haven't got a clue as to why the elevator itself doesn't move. I've checked its path_corners, no mistakes there, the speeds for it and the doors are the same, and there obviously aren't any errors in the doors, but as to why the elevator body doesn't work, I have no clue. I'm stumped. Anyone got any ideas?

EDIT: And, I've just noticed, the outer doors at the bottom don't open either, but I'm presuming that's because they fire when the elevator body reaches the lower path_corner.

Have you named some path_cornes the same name by any chance?
Or maybe the target of the buttons, something is mixed up here. Always tripple check before making a thread

The doors work fine, so there's nothing wrong with them. The elevator body path_corners are named ele_p1 and ele_p2, and their targets set to each other, so that's not causing the problem. The buttons are fine too. Hmmm... hold on... could it be... deletes a fire on pass and tries again

OH! I had both of the moving doors set to fire the elevator's multimanager, so when they closed they fired the elevator at the same time, causing it to stick or something. Now I've gotta find out why the bottom doors won't open. I think perhaps another multimanager is in order... kicks self

One of them started it, the other one stopped it.

And now I've broken it again. >.< When only the doors were sailing down, they were fine, they quickly moved into the open positions, in the correct place for their path_corners. Now, when the lift moves down correctly, the doors open a little bit then jam. The outer doors work just fine, though. But what I don't understand is, how can the deletion of a fire on pass and the creation of a multimanager prevent the doors from opening fully?

List of things I did that must have changed them somehow:
Removed a Fire on Pass from Door 2 (that fired the elevator at the top)
Created a multimanager named 'atbottommm'
Set that multimanager to target 'ldoormm' (fires the outer doors)
And 'eg_lower1' (enables lower level's button)
Set ele_p2 path_corner to fire 'atbottommm' on Pass

I just hope that it isn't something really obvious this time.

edit: and, I just noticed now that I've added ldoormm back to the mm_lower1, as soon as I press the button to go back up again, the outer doors close, and the inner doors finish going to their path_corners.

another edit: ah. I've just discovered more or less how to get the doors back in their proper position. But then it breaks.

Button 1: Upper level. Closes outer doors, inner doors and all descend. Upon reaching lower level, outer doors open, inner doors open and jam.
Button 2: Lower level. Closes outer doors, inner doors fully open, elevator ascends.
Button 3: Upper level. Opens outer doors and closes inner doors on the lower level, triggering them to rise up to the top level.
All buttons now fail to work.

Yeah elevators can sometimes be the hardest things to create in Hammer. The Half-Life engine wasn't programmed to handle complex elevators even though it can be done.

Ok, I've fixed it. The 'atbottommm' must have been causing a conflict or something, because once I deleted it, reset ele_p2 to fire eg_lower1 and set the inner doors to trigger the outer doors, it worked. Then I had to mess around with some timing to get the doors to line up with the elevator. But it's all fixed now.