Burma Created 16 years ago2008-05-07 17:15:07 UTC by Archie

the new estimate is 100,000 dead.
It's expected to rise.
Win is still not accepting International Aid.

Military Dictatorship fail.

Oh well.. Thoughts to those affected etc.

True that, but it is Birma.

So in Burma, a country in Asia (right?), lots of people are dying?
I need to read the news paper more often.

Burma, muzz.

Is it? Then the news people i just saw on TV blundered big time.

Burma in English, Birma in Dutch, apparently.

Pretty bad things going on there, yeah.

I dont know what Burma is... is it Byrmania/Myanmar?

EDIT: Yes, it's called Myanmar on Spanish

Aye Spike, that's the place.

The UN says its planes carrying vital food supplies cannot enter because they still do not have permission to land.

This is just unbelievable though, the stubborn little *****

This is a before and after the flooding...

On my country the news says there are 25k dead people and 40k missing people.

This can always happen, it's not an human fault, but the retard goverment should let other countries help them.

wow alexb, those that picture's incredible.

is this where the virus is? HOLY FUCK MAN! If so just last week it announced 400 was dead... now it has reached 100,000! FUCK, Where all dead men!

er, no.

I'm donating 2 bucks.

how come the numbers jump so radically? first day it was only a couple hundred, a day later 1000, another day later 10000 and by the forth day it was 20000....

thats not the number of people dead as they die, arcan. that's the number of deaths reported. the number grows as more and more people are identified.

I really need to listen to the news more.

The only official Death-toll i've come across stated 22,980, so yeah those number sound about right. I don't know how they treat the missing but presumed dead cases, of which there are many more thousands.

What surprises me, at least in England that is, is the relatively low amount of attention it seems to be getting from the media, I remember the Tsunami - that Boxing Day nothing else was shown on television, yet here, half our members hadn't even heard of Burma!

Blitzkrieg, they don't have to be identified to be dead, they just have to be found... And dead.

Finding people can be tricky though. A lot of people that died in the tsunami in thailand were never found.

Not accepting help is just fucking stupid, thousands more are going to die from disease/starvation/dehydration if they don't get help.

Yeah, in some ways I feel like saying 'Fine, screw you then." But we can't, it's not their fault, it's their government.

But honestly, they should accept whatever help they can get - its already too late to help most of them but they're going to need support for months and months.

That's what I meant to say Tosse, I guess that made a lot more sense when I was high.

the military are more concerned about the celebration of their up and coming founders day celebration!

So in Burma, a country in Asia (right?), lots of people are dying?

is this where the virus is? HOLY FUCK MAN! If so just last week it announced 400 was dead... now it has reached 100,000! FUCK, Where all dead men!

how come the numbers jump so radically? first day it was only a couple hundred, a day later 1000, another day later 10000 and by the forth day it was 20000....

Smart people are smaaart.

As for the situation in Burma, yeah, it's pretty bad. It was before the cyclone and it's even worse now.

so lets hope for the same shit that happened to japan and germany after ww2 ^^

[Off topic: about intelligence & me]
It's not stupid not knowing something...

Intelligence may grant you more knowledge than stupidity, but it depends on how you use it, and how you use your intelligence also affects in what categories your knowledge is greater.
I use most of my intelligence thinking about the world, the future of the world and how the world works (I sometimes find myself wondering why the world exits. I think that it would be much more, no, infinitively more logic that the world/everything didn't exist), the earth and it's future, how humans and other animals work, and what's wrong or right and how the world would be better (I personally belive that a combo of communism and democracy is what would work best for humans, and how the killing of all life would also end all the suffer and pain in the world). I spend lots of free time just thinking, dreaming.
I use some intelligence when I'm at the computer, doing a scripting project or maybe making a map.

And that's about it. I don't waste time reading the news, watching the new on the TV or listening to radio (a waste of time becouse I don't find most news very interesting).
And becouse of that I don't know much about what happens around me, geography, sports, music or things like that.
[/Off topic: about intelligence & me]

So... what's up with this virus? How's it spread? Is is Airborne? Blood-transfered? Just mere Human contact?
What's it do to the body?

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Potatis,

How can you form ideas on how to improve the world, when you don't know what's going on in the world? I mean, how can you form ideas when you don't know what to improve in the first case? You can't form a worldview by just judging on the people around you.

How can you say you 'waste' time reading/watching/hearing the news?
News keeps you up to date in information and gives you new perspectives. Now on a other hand, news is pretty limited considering all the censoring and considering the fact they only broadcast the news that they think will bring a lot of viewers. Seriously, most people in the western society care much more about the twin towers than a tsunami in Asia (which leads to way more deaths..) for example. Your national news pays way more attention to the things happening in the 'western' world then outside happenings. But heh, that's human nature for ya.

Hopefully I got my point across, being the fact English isn't my first language things I write sometimes come across different for people that have English as first language or master it (almost) flawlessly. This isn't a flame by the way, just found a small content of your post a bit.. vague. See this as a reply that turned into a small rant that went outta hand.

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I personally haven't really catched much information about what happened, the only thing I've heard is that help is being rejected by corrupted goverments.

[off topic]
Potatis -
1. Kill yourself
2. Stop watching Anime or taking computer games seriously
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thinking about the world, the future of the world and how the world works, the earth and it's future, how humans and other animals work, and what's wrong or right and how the world would be better

Kind of hard to know how to "make the world better" without knowing which countries are in it or what's going on in them. But then again, I guess you could think it all up without actually looking at anything. You know... with intelligence.

That's what I do, think.
When I'm not playing/writing/reading/watching a movie at the computer, I most of the time just (sitting somewere comfortable) think about things. Over and over again. It may sound depressing, but it's not.
Someone without intelligence obviously wouldn't do that, becouse that would be like playing soccer not being able to run.

Well, firstly, there's no one "without intelligence" (intelligence is a stupid term, anyway), and no one who doesn't think. Secondly, saying "I don't waste time reading the news" in the same post as you claim you want to improve the world what with all your astounding intellect comes off sounding incredibly ignorant. Fyi.

Really. Sitting by yourself, thinking about stuff very rarely leads to the acquisition of new information. You might figure some personal issues (or perceptions) out, but that's about it.

I'm not saying I'm super smart, smarter than you, smarter than everyone, or even smarter than average.
And yes, you are right, there's no one without intelligence, becouse then it's not a one, it's a thing, my mistake.
I never wrote that I wanted to improve the world (more than anyone else).
And I never wrote "how to make the world better", I wrote "how the world would be better".
I'm not trying to pretend to be better than anyone else, becouse I know I'm not.

Fair enough.

Anyway, back on topic. I heard that some UN country's are considering landing in aid without Burmese government permission, although I support the idea it sounds like it could very easily start somekind of war. Of course none of this would have to happen if the military government they have there weren;t such bas****s.

Maybe they're not accepting aid because they feel that it might leave them in debt to the rest of the world?

They're not accepting aid because the generals (note, generals - not politicians) leading Burma are tyrant wankers afraid of losing their power. They're terrified the Burmese people will start seeing that the Western world really isn't a bunch of cunt-bags, like the Burmese government has been telling them for 50-odd years.

Hopefully, though, the Burmese people will see through this charade put up by their government. The military junta needs to end.