school shootout mod idea Created 16 years ago2008-06-19 11:03:48 UTC by alex_m99

ok i've read other people's mod ideas and some of them are terrible, they rethinking and their mod ideas, ending up brainstorming several mods in 1 thread and they are terrible ideas!

i have pondered my mind and i have come up with an idea that i think is a good idea.. if it is possible, i am still pretty noob with everything really so this isnt really a thread describing the mod i am making, but to present my idea and to be able to see whether this idea is at all possible.

Ok i want to know if it is possible to map my entire school with source preferably hl2:ep2 for best graphics. my school is pretty big, with 4 ovals in total, 3 all next to eachother, there are many buildings, lots of beautiful scenery (plants trees etc), 6 tennis courts, technology, science, art, computing, library buildings, hobby farm, boarding house large office building, music centre, junior school complex - sounds crazy i know

i realise that all of this could not be compiled into one map, would it be possible to run a mod online over servers with a minimum of 8 players, but with many bots (students: reskinned citizens, teachers: reskinned combine) the students would not do much but stand around performing simple animations, pretty much fleeing when attacked or provoked, and the teachers retaliating [if they see you holding a weapon in general or firing it, not too sure yet]. back on topic of maps, would it possible to run a server basically being a skirmish between 8+ real players through a series of maps all connected which can be ran back and forth through where the objective would be to primarily kill eachother?

once the map is up and running, and if this is possible, i think there would be great scope for customising, for example team versions, so team atack, capture points, capture the flag etc, weapon modes e.g. knives or poles only, redoing the map in a destroyed theme, zombies instead of students.

so if this is possible, give me the ok lol or give me suggestions of alteratives, give feedback on the idea, and also, if ur interested in this project, let me know

thanks guys.

oh here is a pic of the layout of my school, i can get a better quality one and also a pic of the school from a helicopter, pictures of all students, all teachers, random pictures of the school and i can go around taking photos of everything with a camera if you are interested in the modthere

All I can say is be careful. Remember the kid that was arrested for making his school into a 3D level for CS.

That partly made me stop working on my school level a few years back. Ah I can remember the praise I got when word got around school XD

haha shit! serious!!
which country was that?
i live in adelaide, south australia, year 11
i wouldnt put the name of the school in the actual game, or the same uniform etc
but mmm that is giving me second thoughts already! lol
thanks for the advice

and you also should definatly use goldsource for modding before jumping into something like source engine 2007, it's not as simple as you think.

Habboi: LOL No way. Screenshot or it didn't happen

Mapping all that will be hard, how much experience do you have with Source 2007 and the mapping tools?

none at the moment, i'm practicing with goldsource, making a series of oposing force maps.

i didnt know there was a vast difference to source from goldsource

im not saying that i'll just jump straight into this, its just an idea and i would need help obviously XD

would it be possible to be able to make a game like that though if you had the right skills? consecutive maps on a server, kinda like a MMORPG or singleplayer online kinda thing but smaller

Madcow: http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/02/student-arrested-for-making-a-map-of-his-school/

Oh come on that's China, it doesn't count

wow i read that article and heaps of the posts, that chinese kid got caneed! and it was pretty unfair, in my opinion although he should have waited a bit before releasing his map right after a school shooting. 95% of ppl agree that it was unfair.

To make sure i don't get in trouble for this, i'll ask the head of IT if it would be ok, me n him are pretty tight lol and if he isnt sure i might ask the principal :S eeeep! lol, im sure he would approve if i explained the idea.

someone answer my question plz! lol would it be possible to create the mod i have in mind? (physically, with the source engine and servers and such i mean)?

thanks

Sounds... risky / creepy

risky / creepy?

the idea came about the other day, me and some mates were just chatting at lunch (they wouldnt even know what half-life is let alone mapping or modding etc) and we started talking about how good it would be to turn our school into a mass paintball arena with the whole school at once, mega skirmish and it was a great convo, then it led to discussion of real guns! actually being placed in the school with rations, camo, a sniper and ammo and it was all on all! lol yeah the convo was a bit weird, but yeah in the back of my mind i was thinking about how i could actually create this, but on a computer!:D

I can say, based on your idea of running back and worth and map transitioning, it's possible, but I'm not sure it can be accomplished in the way you want it. If one player changed maps, all players would, and I don't think there is a way around this at the moment.

Bad idea. Don't do it.
Try a non existing environment instead.

yeah i see what you mean

what if it was like sven-coop and half-life: decay, built like a cooperative game where the other players would be enemies instead of allies\

so it would be singleplayer but mmorpg'd kinda mmm hard to explain

i think u can see what i mean though

also, would the source engine be able to handle the huge ovals??

Is your idea people against the students? Or is like, foreign military attack on the school, and players being the one's protecting it?

A.) I'm sure if it's the latter, it would probably be approved more easily.

B.) If you do plan on modeling it in any way like YOUR school, keep similarities to a minimum. New and different architecture, colors, environment.

Edit: Source would have less a problem with ovals then goldsrc would.

Is there a face limit for ovals in source anyone?

Oh come on that's China, it doesn't count

LOL no!

It's a chinese kid living on Texas so not China, USA!

This is moocow we're talking about here, im sure he knew that.

You should loosely base it off your school, not make it exactly the same.

Like, I had this idea where I was gonna roughly recreate my school, but at the same time make it totally different by making it like a war torn / bombed out version. It was a good idea, just never did it, though.

lol yeah it was more kill other students and teachers but that would be an add on after the art and architecture was complete, im sure my IT teacher would love the idea, but the principal.. lol
i dno i'd be able to come up with a solution,

and why do u straight up think its a bad idea muzzleflash?

You're some sort of sadistic kid with no friends, aren't you?

No sane person thinks it's cool to shoot up students and teachers, even in a video game. It's just not something sane kids do.

Just stop while you're ahead, then go get help. A psychiatrist can do wonders.

I pretty much agree with Luke 100% on the above. That's a pretty terrible thought to be virtually picking off your friends or lack of.

LOL! are u joking?! u guys are just like the crazy american police!

i dont mean going in and massacreing people!

i mean a competition between other real players to try and get eachother within a cool arena like my school. the students being there to make the map look cool, and there would be the possibility to have jokes for the teachers, and weapons for them to match their personality, e.g. this seriously hairy teacher at school, often described as a caveman would be given a huge wooden club. how could u not find that funny? being chased by an extremely hairy man who resembles someone you know, with a huge club!

you guys have got a totally wrong impression of this mod, it isnt some f'n terrorist game, where u run into a class and open fire with an mg or something! my sanity is not to be question thank you very much, as well as how many friends i have!! i don;t wanna start paying people out over this forum as im pretty new but luke, look at urself mate, ur dp says it all, "tool!"

I'm basing everything I said off of this:

lol yeah it was more kill other students and teachers but that would be an add on after the art and architecture was complete

That told me the idea was to go in and kill students and teachers.

You never described students / teachers could be there as jokes. But in all honesty, what player would understand them? Only people at your school would get it, and as far as I know, only you would get the jokes because no one else goes to your school.

the students being there to make the map look cool

How does students standing around in crossfire, more than likely being killed themselves, 'make the map look cool'? I always thought architecture, lighting, and ambiance was key to a cool map, not potential casualties looking like school mates.

And what the fuck is a "dp"?

display picture! u look like a tard!

yeah that was bad wording on my part, i was just answering saw's question. by students and such looking cool, i mean why would u run around an empty map of that size unless you had large ammounts of real players or it was in a stealth mode version of the game

pretty much i just want to make a nice looking recreation of my school where you can have a deathmatch with other realtime players. Other things like students and teachers would be a cool add on to it but would take a lot of work.

so stop your whining and go back to whatever it is you do in your probably pathetic life and stop flaming my sanity!

That's not a picture of me, it's a picture of actor Johnny Depp playing Hunter S. Thompson in the movie "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas". Sorry if you feel Johnny looks like a 'tard'.

In any other situation I'd say you're right that I was flaming you, but I'm not. Not even a little. I'm giving you a realistic idea of what people will think of you when you make the map you're describing, and you're the one flaming me, being offensive, and is refusing to take realistic criticism.

I'm trying to help you, making you look more sane than you think you are. If you want people to get the wrong idea, than ignore all of my posts, but it's your own fault if people think you're insane.

Also, not sure what you think whining is, but you have no idea.

I like killing hostages at CS

aww i like johnny depp he looks like an ass in that pic tho lol thank god its not you

i think u took it too far with the abuse and the way you think i've thought about this idea, but ehhhh i'll try not to be stuborn like i've seen others be when they were total twats

i do see that it would be insane to run around a map of your skool, killing students for no apparent reason, so i guess i could cut that out of the picture, and it would help to reduce lagg and such i guess, even though seeing people actually walking around and using the school would be alot cooler than a ghost school which would be boring unless u had heaps of other players, or if u implemented a mode like zombies, is shooting zombies insane? or saw's idea of defending the school from some kind of military force

but i really didnt mean what i sed earlier which sounded so suss about gunning down students and teachers for fun or watever u thought i meant, taht actually is insane and i'd be in the psychiatrist's room tomorow! lol

sorry about being um ignorant i think is the word

LOL at Spike haha i think everyone does

display picture! u look like a tard!

A.) That's pretty cold to begin with.
B.) You can't assume every avatar is that person, especially considering Muzzleflash is a guy.

Edit: Tip #1: That's Luke's way of being nice, you'll have to get used to it.

well he was being cold to me, i sed myself that i didn't want to start paying people out, but i don't like taking shit from people that don't even know me!

lol yeah i know i checked that out

yeah, getting used to it already

i didnt see one of the posts from luke about making a bombed out version of his school, i thought about that idea too, its a good idea which i would probably do if i made a successful map of my school looking as it does now first.

I' d say go for it, even if it is in a scaled down version. Im going to need to turn my school into a DM arena for a project next year, although i think some teachers are more forgiving then others.

like saw said, luke occasinally says "dumbass" or "dipshit" all the time, it's his way of being nice, you got to get used to it.

also, isn't it a little strict for someone to get arrested for making a map that looks like his school?
i mean, seriously, almost every game in the world is based on a real location, and they aren't considered as terrorists just for making a map based on something real!

how about
you keep making opposing force maps for a little while

try making the school with goldsource
populate it with aliens

Vorti-students =D

Bad idea is bad.

Given recent history with school shootings, it's just really bad taste imo. Saying you want to go around and shoot helpless students "who don't really do much but stand around" sounds really bad.

On the other hand, pretty much everyone has made a map of their school at some point, so i don't see any problem with that; In fact, making maps of places you know well is the best, because you can visualize all the details easily/thoughtfully.

I guess we could say all these things about GTA too so maybe the people (like me) who are saying this sounds bad are hypocrites?

mmmmmm taking in all ur points, they're all good n valid

i said i DIDNT want to go around shooting helpless students!! lol

mmmm i dont think the goldsource engine would be able to run the school as its huge!

if i create some maps of the school which are smaller, i'll do the senior locker area first, but will i be able to port it into the source engine?

B.) You can't assume every avatar is that person, especially considering Muzzleflash is a guy.

So he says.

hahaha at ant lol

and i was thinking last nite, and rememberd the reason i initially wanted the students, beacuse the mod was a similar idea to one i'd had before, just at a school this time, where when u move, u walk instead of run, and will look exactly like the other students, to run, u hold down shift, so you would have to try and figure out who the other players are before they find you, without shooting students or else the teachers will turn against you. Does that sound like a more humane mod?LOL

i had this idea earlier this week but it was for a huge map of a german town during nazi germany where you were a spy and had to hunt the others down. i've drawn this huuuuge map in the back of my modern history book, its like 4 A4 pages all joined together, and i might add to it next semester, in modern history, our teacher just rambles on about nazi's and stalin's etc the whole lesson XD

That sounds like, The Ship

come to think of it, it does too.

i've never played the ship, but i've read the blurb about it

lol adelaide

lol yeah? where u live?

ah yes, melbourne i love melbourne, i been ther like 3 times, almost everyone in adelaide wants to move to melbourne! lol i like adelaide though however

This is moocow we're talking about here, im sure he knew that.

...of course! ;O I was just making sure that you really had read the article, DUH

Change the name of this thread will ya you fucking twat. Where'd you come up with this idea?

Is our community all for this!?

Its like me making a mod about two towers getting hit by planes!

Fuck kid, Get the fuck out of our forum.
Insensitivity is not looked upon as cool.

Calm down unbreakable, that tower thingy might actually be a plausible idea.

Really, if you find those school shootings offensive in a game setting then you'd better find a different hobby, a lot of environments are based or directly copied from there real life counter-parts.

right, so that makes it ok to make a school that you run around in gunning down people...? Well, ok, sure.. sorry... lost my temper.

Whos up for making a mod about two planes hitting two tall towers..? Or perhaps the pentagon! ...Yes pepper, that idea would be plausable, mainly for the reason that you would be stopping the terrorist from bombing the hell out of the place... But its totally different then putting a bunch of characters in a school and gunning them down.. correct?

Exactly.

It's in such bad taste that it's just a horrible idea.

There's only been one school shooting in Australia. We're not fucking crazy like you faggot yanks.

And that was totally called for.

Ya Trapt, don't but in if you don't know what your talking about man.. theres been more that one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre

Its just that, its not funny shit, its serious stuff. So I'm sorry if I'm not with you guys on making a school shootout mod. I'm actually really against it. Why would you want to make a mod like this, you'll be frowned upon...
Anyways, your call Alex, but don't expect to make to many friends.

Whos up for making a mod about two planes hitting two tall towers..? Or perhaps the pentagon!

Would be awesome!

Now srsly, lots of games are based on real disasters and are damn cool. Doing a map of your own school would be cool to play with friends, but not for other people.