Other mapping sites look shit . Why ?

Tito

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-22 22:46:43 UTC Post #254361

Tito: Relevant (IE User)

Your way wrong on that one, bud. I routinely run both Internet Explorer & Firefox, I use whatever works for whatever I want to use. But I still like that picture you linked to, I think I will save it to my Pictures folder. Anyway, I don't take part in this battle-of-the-browsers fanboy mentality.

And coming back again to my site's source code, I will repeat it again, strict validation is way overrated, very few care for it, and even less ever notice it. Man!........Whatever happened to judging a website for what it is about, rather than for what's the source code like?

Tito

Strider

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-23 02:13:06 UTC Post #254365

Tito: Relevant (IE User)

Haha, I like that.

3rd) MGS4 9,3 score, 8,7 story score. Halo 3 9,8 score, 9,5 story, for the most gayest game ever.

Good god. D:

StriderTuned to a dead channel.

monster_urby

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-23 04:37:52 UTC Post #254369

Whatever happened to judging a website for what it is about, rather than for what's the source code like?

Thats fine unless your looking for employment.

monster_urbyGoldsourcerer

ZombieLoffe

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-23 05:30:10 UTC Post #254370

Whatever happened to judging a website for what it is about, rather than for what's the source code like?

I judge a website for how it will be experienced by its users over a variety of platforms and user agents

. You seem to have completely missed my point about the W3 accessibility recommendations (3.), which in my opinion is the most solid reason for using semantic, well-formed markup.

ZombieLoffe

Striker

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-23 15:27:35 UTC Post #254396

The coding mistakes do slow pages , aren't they ?

StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure

kraken

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-23 21:54:05 UTC Post #254415

TWHL sux cuz i'm really gay

kraken

Trapt

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-23 22:43:11 UTC Post #254417

obviously.

Traptlegend

Oskar Potatis

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-23 23:33:09 UTC Post #254418

strict validation is way overrated, very few care for it, and even less ever notice it.

If it wasn't for people like you, there would be many more - and better - browsers today and it would also be a lot easier and faster to develop web sites.
Today's browsers must be made idiot proof, thanks to idiots (Microsoft, Tito, etc.) that don't follow the standards.
If you don't follow the standards you slow down the development of the internet, you slow down internet browsers and computers, and are to be considered an enemy of the internet, computers and of the future of humans.

Indirectly this is causing computers to need more power, better motherboards and CPUs and more RAM thanks to you, which means they cost more. At the same time as you are slowing down my internet browser you are also denying poor people one way of educating themselves.

When you mess up your code you are also messing up everyone else's internet.

That doesn't mean I have anything against you tho. I just think that it is very ignorant not to follow the standards.

Oskar Potatis🦔

Tito

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 00:30:34 UTC Post #254425

Today's browsers must be made idiot proof, thanks to idiots (Microsoft, Tito, etc.) that don't follow the standards.

Wow, putting me along side the mighty Microsoft, I think you are overreacting, My bank account and salary is not up to Microsoft's standards.

Anyway, that part you said about, quote: "If it wasn't for people like you, there would be many more - and better - browsers today and it would also be a lot easier and faster to develop web sites" is way, way, way off the mark! Think about it....It's bad enough to worry about the few browsers out there now and each of their individual ways of rendering web pages, when coding HTML. Now, you want to add "many more and better browsers" to the mix? Do you actually believe any more new browsers wont bring with them more non-standard ways of rendering web pages? Something does not add up here.

And what's this thing about not following standards is indirectly causing computers to need more power? You know what, I am not even going there, my patience is getting thin. Really Potatis_invalid, this is starting to sound like it's being made up as you go. One more thing..........You were out of line with that "idiot" remark, I don't recall ever throwing insults at you, especially over something as dumb as this. The least you can do is return the favor.

Tito

ZombieLoffe

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 06:47:40 UTC Post #254446

potatis, you need to chill the fuck out yo.

Everything would be much easier if everyone followed web standards. That goes for both browsers and web developers. It would indeed cut development times for new websites as well as new browsers. The web would likely be a bigger place where creating content was easier.

ZombieLoffe

Striker

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 07:46:33 UTC Post #254450

Everything would be much easier if everyone followed web standards

Who cares about standards , I ask you ... ?

StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure

Strider

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 08:02:14 UTC Post #254453

Erm, everyone who just spoke in favour of it, and any web developer with half a brain.

StriderTuned to a dead channel.

Oskar Potatis

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 10:25:06 UTC Post #254471

Tito, calling you an idiot was a bit too much, sorry about that.
My point was that if everyone would have done their best to make websites that validate and follow the standards, it would be a lot easier developing websites today.

Oskar Potatis🦔

Tito

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 14:23:42 UTC Post #254479

Tito, calling you an idiot was a bit too much, sorry about that.
My point was that if everyone would have done their best to make websites that validate and follow the standards, it would be a lot easier developing websites today.

Apologies accepted. And if I did go overboard on anything myself, apologies offered. As for your point, that would be the case, but only if we all lived in an ideal world. As long as there are big money corporations elbowing each other for the biggest piece of the internet market, that ideal world will not happen.

There's just too much money and power at stake for the big guys to leave it at the hands of the people who want cooperation across the many diverse, technology platforms of the internet. There's always that someone who does not like to share and wants to control everything. That's why you will never see no web browser out there with full conformity to the established web development standards, it's not in their financial interests.

The companies behind these web browsers want to push their own idea or thing, which they obviously own and control, and try to make them the new web standard. They all have invested, financial interests that fit right along with their own agendas, which dose not necessarily include adherence to the current web standards.

Tito

Oskar Potatis

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 15:08:24 UTC Post #254482

I believe that there will be an ideal world, and that's why I follow the internet standards, don't eat meat, follow the law, never use violence etc.

Oskar Potatis🦔

Penguinboy

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 15:52:57 UTC Post #254485

Well this has turned into a stupid conversation fast.

I believe that there will be an ideal world, and that's why I follow the internet standards, don't eat meat, follow the law, never use violence etc.

Wow, that's pretty silly. "Don't eat meat and there'll be world peace!"
It makes perfect sense! You'll die from lack of iron and protein, and the rest if us will finally have peace!

Enjoy your damn gazpacho while you can.

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

Oskar Potatis

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 16:02:43 UTC Post #254486

World peace to me is when all animals (including humans) can live in peace.

Oskar Potatis🦔

Luke

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 16:36:56 UTC Post #254487

Not sure what fairy tale you just got done reading (The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe?) but that's impossible. Unless at birth everyone, including animals, got a lobotomy.

You can't just change nature and instincts. What you just said is down right ridiculous.

You deserve a good beating to get such nonsense out of your head.

And this is all very relevant to mapping sites, I might add.

LukeLuke

Tuna

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 16:49:10 UTC Post #254488

World Peace is naturally unnatainable.

Tuna

Tosse

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 17:08:33 UTC Post #254489

It's not impossible! It's just humans that tend to fuck everything up.

Tosse

ZombieLoffe

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 17:10:43 UTC Post #254490

Tito, your post illustrates a point against absolute browser conformity, but it is not an argument against site validity. Sure, there will never be a browser that conforms fully and only to the standards, because of old methods still being used. Of course the developers will want backwards compatibility.
This, however, is not an argument against using standards for web development. I mean, in all earnest, there's no reason not to follow standards - after all, they're put in place to create the optimal experience for as large an audience as possible.

Regarding the (apparently parallel) discussion about an ideal world, the term "ideal" is highly subjective and will probably differ greatly from person to person. As such, it is fairly unattainable.
Besides, animals are tasty.

ZombieLoffe

Tuna

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 17:16:28 UTC Post #254491

People will always hate other people.

Therefore, people will always want to fight otherpeople

therefore world peace is impossible.

You get maniacs who just kill for fun etc out of no real reason. That's not peace if people are still getting murdered.

Also ZL is right, animals taste fucking brilliant. I had chicken today.

Tuna

Tosse

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 17:18:18 UTC Post #254492

If all humans die, BOOM, world peace.

Tosse

Luke

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 17:26:35 UTC Post #254495

Not according to potatis.

Animals will still attack each other. Hurrr.

LukeLuke

Penguinboy

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 17:33:36 UTC Post #254496

the only way to stop the animals from attacking each other is to eat them!

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

Alabastor_Twob

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 18:02:14 UTC Post #254498

I don't get vegetarianism. We, as humans, evolved to eat other animals. As long as they're humanely killed, there should be no moral reason not to eat them. They're probably not (I'm at least 1% sure of this) self aware anyway, so they probably won't care about dying, other than their instinctive urge to survive.
There's also the fact that, being alive, they'll die at some point anyway (that point most likely being near the end of their life :D), so we may as well make sure that they'll die before they get old and the meat on there bones is lost.

Plus there's also the fact that they're tasty.

Alabastor_Twobformerly TJB

Tosse

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 18:09:15 UTC Post #254499

TJB, that was the most stupid thing that I've ever heard.

Tosse

Tito

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 18:15:10 UTC Post #254500

You know what ZombieLoffe, after drinking 3 Gasolina cocktail drinks and then reading your last post on this thread, I will go ahead and agree with you on principle. Oh by the way, if you are not acquainted on the Gasolina drink, please refer to the following picture as proof to it's twisted existence:

Tito

Alabastor_Twob

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 18:21:01 UTC Post #254501

Tosse, I most definitely agree with you. I'm very good at spouting out stupidity.

Alabastor_Twobformerly TJB

Archie

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 18:28:12 UTC Post #254502

lol.
11% volume.

try scotch.

ArchieGoodbye Moonmen

Tito

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 18:45:06 UTC Post #254504

Scotch is good, used to drink it often when I was in the Military. But when I am in the mood for something really strong, and yet mixes well with anything, nothing beats Bacardi 151.

Tito

Strider

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 20:36:33 UTC Post #254506

First web standards, then peace between man and animals, and now alcohol.

What's next?

StriderTuned to a dead channel.

Alabastor_Twob

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 20:59:21 UTC Post #254507

Cake?

Alabastor_Twobformerly TJB

Tito

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 22:23:11 UTC Post #254508

First web standards, then peace between man and animals, and now alcohol.

What's next?

Web standards and alcohol I understand, but peace between man and animals? Sounds like somebody has watch the Beastmaster movies too many times. Well, we can always go back to bashing SnarkPit, which was the original target of this thread. Besides the source code, this time, more dirt needs to be found on SnarkPit.

Tito

Alabastor_Twob

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 22:23:14 UTC Post #254509

Ha. You messed up your quotes Tito.

Alabastor_Twobformerly TJB

Tito

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 22:26:47 UTC Post #254510

Ha. You messed up your quotes Tito.

Ha!....Fixed it.

Tito

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 22:29:44 UTC Post #254511

Cake?

I could go for some cake right about now, rum cake that is.

Tito

TheGrimReafer

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 22:36:44 UTC Post #254512

Rum cake is awesome

Seconded

TheGrimReaferADMININATOR

Alabastor_Twob

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 23:07:24 UTC Post #254513

Ha. You messed up your quotes Tito.
Ha!....Fixed it.

Damn, you were too quick. But I can settle for the satisfaction of my superiority over you because of the fact that you double posted.

Alabastor_Twobformerly TJB

Tito

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-24 23:27:28 UTC Post #254514

Damn, you were too quick. But I can settle for the satisfaction of my superiority over you because of the fact that you double posted

SUPERIORITY OVER ME?.......

YOUR TOO MUCH, TJB!

Tito

Archie

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-25 00:18:50 UTC Post #254515

Which moves us neatly on to grammar.

YOU'RE TOO MUCH, TJB!

fix'd

ArchieGoodbye Moonmen

Alabastor_Twob

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-25 00:27:20 UTC Post #254516

Hunteh, you live in Scotland right? What are you doing up at five in the morning?

Alabastor_Twobformerly TJB

Tito

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-25 00:35:04 UTC Post #254517

Which moves us neatly on to grammar.

Quote:
YOU'RE TOO MUCH, TJB!

fix'd

I stand corrected. You see, I can admit my errors, I am not a total ass.....

Tito

Tuna

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-25 03:10:03 UTC Post #254518

Hunteh, you live in Scotland right? What are you doing up at five in the morning?

Because he is big and dumb

Tuna

Deathan

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-25 03:33:05 UTC Post #254520

Hunter I just saw your profile. You are listening bands that are far away from metal (Daft Punk, Metallica), and then Melodic Death Metal (Arch Enemy).

Deathan

ZombieLoffe

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-25 04:17:01 UTC Post #254521

What does that have to do with anything?

ZombieLoffe

Penguinboy

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-25 05:05:58 UTC Post #254522

this thread officially has

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

Other mapping sites look shit . Why ? Created 16 years ago2008-08-20 18:51:47 UTC by Striker