Quantum of Solace Created 15 years ago2008-11-29 00:43:41 UTC by satchmo

"Quantum of Solace" presents a vengeful Bond who is also vulnerable at the same time. Daniel Craig plays a tough and ruthless Bond who is just as capable (probably more capable) Bond as all of his predecessors, but his vulnerability lies in the fact that he still cares about certain people and principles. Friendship still means something to him, and he actually considers the consequences of his action. This is drastically different from the standard Bond character that we are all familiar with.

Perhaps that's why Quantum is more satisfying. It's not just a typical action flick, but one with a tortured soul and where the line between good and evil is continuously shifting. Is doing the right thing always the best thing to do?

In addition, all the main characters in this film are all laced with emotional burden that haunts them and motivates them at the same time. Psychological torment is the force that drives everyone, either to their salvation or ultimate doom.

Quantum presents a darker Bond than before, and this adds more dimensions to the suave, Martini drinking spy that we used to know. It's satisfying the franchise has taken a new direction, and the box office proves that the audience appreciates it as well.

The bond personal developement plot was there, but personally I didn't enjoy it because the scheme of the bad guys was pretty weak.

Also, I cant picture any way an organization as omni-potent as the one in the movie could get to be the way they are without at least someone outside of them knowing about it. People are too untrustworthy.

And that all happens just so Greene there can sell water. Whipee -_-

That is a very nice writeup though, yes ;o

It was a decent film, on it's own.

As a followup to the literally astoundingly good Casino Royale, it was piss-poor.

This movie was a very different James Bond than I have been used to seeing, very dark and moody. It is a trend Hollywood is now employing in some of the bigger movie franchises. A good case in point: The Dark Knight. In fact, the next Harry Potter movie is reputed to be the meanest and darkest movie yet in the series. Hell, even squeaky clean and boy scout nice Superman is not safe! According to Superherohype.com, the next Superman movie, titled "Superman Reboot", is going to be an almost R rated movie with a very dark and violent story plot similar to that of The Dark Night's script. A no holds bar, kick ass and take no prisoners Superman? Yep, I am for that!

That's just not Superman. They should leave the dark stuff to Wolverine or Batman.

One word: Shaky-cam can go die in a fire.

One word: Shaky-cam can go die in a fire.

Are you by any chance referring to Cloverfield? That movie's shaky cam almost gave me an epileptic seizure!

The shaky cam works in Cloverfield, the only thing you have to catch glimpses of is so massive it doesn't matter. Quantum of Solace's action though was indeed quite hard to keep up with.

It's a decent enough follow up to Casino Royale with some memorable moments, but it doesn't quite hold the same sense of style or grounding. Also, [i]spoilerish[/i], but why on Earth is a hotel out in the middle of a bloody hot desert powered by fuel cells in every wall. Which genius came up with that?

According to Superherohype.com, the next Superman movie, titled "Superman Reboot", is going to be an almost R rated movie with a very dark and violent story plot similar to that of The Dark Night's script. A no holds bar, kick ass and take no prisoners Superman? Yep, I am for that!

I've heard about this being described as a three part epic, the potential "Godfather" of the comic book world. Supposedly starting all the way back with Superman's birth and ending with him being the last one alive as the Sun goes supernova. Sounds kind of cool, but I'll always be very skeptical of hype.

In all honesty I hated Quantum of Solace or Quantum of shaky-cam as it should have been called. The action was all over the place with the director aiming for a Bourne Identity style shaky cam with differing angles but whereas in the Bourne Identity it was edited in such a way so that you knew what was going on in Quantum they just shot the action from 42 different angles and stuck them all together in editing and hoped everything would work out. As well as that the makers completely missed the point of the Bourne films. Not only did it have bone crunching action but it had an actual story. In Bourne there was that whole thing with CIA politics and of course you wanted to see the conclusion and find out what happens to Bourne and what his true identity is. Whereas with Quantum they completely missed the point, thinking a shaky cam makes a good film and every thirty seconds of dialogue should be punctuated by a gunfight. I could go on about how its not a true Bond film and the song is rubbish and everything but I won't as far as im concerned this Bond film is an unmitigated failure.

I liked it. Much better than Casino Royale.

I dunno i loved casino royale and didn't really care for this one, though it had decent moments. I like Daniel Craig and most of the rest of the cast so it was bearable, but disappointing...

Also, the ugliest bond girl yet and he didn't even sleep with here... come come James what is this franchise coming too?! = )

Also, the ugliest bond girl yet and he didn't even sleep with here... come come James what is this franchise coming too?! = )

Also, whatever happened to Q's high tech, super secrete spy gadgets that Bond has been so famous for using in past movies? And for the next movie, it would really be cool if they brought back James Bond's old enemy hit man "Jaws":

I don't know while Q was humorous it did feel a little camp. But I think at the very least Bond should be able to smile at some point in the film. At least Casino Royale had a few humorous moments and that parkour scene was pure Bond but in Quantum of Solace all those car chases and gun fights could have fitted into any action movie

I liked it. Much better than Casino Royale.

i do hope you're joking.

Judging from what I've been hearing, they've completely lost it in the last movies. Never seen either of the two and probably won't.

I don't remember any shaky cam in this movie. Obviously it did not bother me very much.

The luxury hotel in the middle of nowhere is because the crooked politicians need a place to do dirty business without anyone knowing.

And the reason for the hydrogen fuel cells is because there's no electricity in the middle of the desert.

Plus, it's a James Bond movie, so it makes better explosions.

Satchmo, the very first scene of the movie was shaky-cammed. The movie literally opened with this effect going on, and as far as I can remember every time a gunfight started (every two minutes) they brought the shakiness back.

Movie has no soul.

It was a bit shaky in the beginning but it didn't bother me.

Well, I didn't notice it really.

The only movie that I remember the shaki-cam being abused was "Blair Witch Project".

I never saw "Cloverfield".

I never saw "Cloverfield".

...why the Hell not!?!!?

Cloverfield was the shit. Can't wait until the second.

/hijack

Cloverfield was a strange one, I'll give it that. I want to watch a sequel, but I don't really know why.

Cloverfield was...unique. Certainly not the best, but it was certainly unique.

I think the Nostalgia Critic put it quite well.

Cloverfield was a strange one, I'll give it that. I want to watch a sequel, but I don't really know why.

To see if that hot chick (and to a much lesser extent, that dude) survived!

If there ever is another Cloverfield movie, there is a good chance it might be a prequel. The reason I say this, is because there were too many unanswered questions concerning the origin of the monsters. At first I thought these had to be some kind of invading alien monsters, but after seeing how they were acting more like a bunch of savage dumb animals attacking anything that moved and never venturing outside New York city, I figure they might be some kind of secrete government experiment that went wrong and escaped from their hands. Of course, if they really do a regular sequel, it's hard to say where they could go with this.........

It came from the ocean tito.
The main dude's drilling company had something to do with it.
From what i can remember anyhow.

Mmmm, I'm gonna have to watch the movie again....

Yeah, it's a deep-sea monster and the smaller ones are like it's parasites, or barnacle equivalents.

The backstory for it is pretty ridiculous, which is why it was mostly all presented in the viral gaming up until it's release. Something involving a drink named Slusho! and a deep-sea drilling company. You can also just see what is supposedly a satellite falling into the ocean in one bit of footage set prior to the attack. Who knows, it's mostly nonsense.

Well in that case, I wont bother myself seeing the movie again. Thanks for clearing all that for me, Strider. You know, since we are on the subject of monsters, last night I saw this rented movie called "Dragon Wars" (also called D-Wars), and I gotta tell you, it was one of the worst pieces of shit of a movie that I have ever seen! The story plot and so called "acting" was horrendous! A porn movie had better acting. The cover of Dragon Wars or D-Wars:

Haha, I've seen the trailer for that and it was all I needed to see.

After this discussion, i felt the need to "aquire" cloverfield as I've never seen it before.

Now I have.

hmm. that was pretty damn awesome. Genuinely jumped when the lights first go out at the party :3

as for speculation:

"The producer J.J. Abrams says, "The concept for the monster is simple. He's a baby. He's brand-new. He's confused, disoriented and irritable. And he's been down there in the water for thousands and thousands of years."

And where is he from? "We don't say deliberately," notes the writer, Drew Goddard. "Our movie doesn't have the scientist in the white lab coat who shows up and explains things like that. We don't have that scene."

The film does give us clues. You can clearly see an object flying into the ocean behind Rob and Beth in the closing shot, though many internet commentators believe that this is a satellite, which was part of the marketing campaign for the film.

(It should also be noted here that the inspiration for the movie was a trip by producer Abrams and his son to Japan. While there, he noted the iconic nature of Godzilla in toy stores and wanted to create a similar story for America. According to Godzilla's lore, America is blamed by Japan for creating the lizard monster through nuclear testing. It might be Abrams' return salute to Japan to have them responsible for the monster that destroys New York, as it would have been awakened by that nation's satellite.)"

Abrams doesn't want to do a sequel and I can see why. It ended perfectly.
Of course they don't survive.

If another were to be made, it'd either be a prequel or from a different POV. Many of the soldiers have helmet-mounted cameras for example.

Is this thread now about ALL movies? Good.

I saw Planet Terror yesterday. It's from 2007 I think but hadn't seen it before.
I must say it was one of the wierdest movies I have ever seen.
All they ever do is shoot and kill kinda like the Max Payne games (but totally different story and stuff).
A virus spreads in a military base and people turn into zombies.
I really enjoyed it. If you haven't seen it already I recommend you buy/rent/download it.
At some points it's close to ridiculous but that's how it was meant to be and it's a really cool movie.
Best action movie I have ever seen.

Actually saw Cloverfield at the theatre when it was still on. Never impressed me much. Sure, t'was an interesting concept back then, but that's where it ends. Everything else was plain meh.

I saw Quantum of Solace today. It was alright.

Shaky cam though? Bullshit. It appeared marginally for 10 minutes then left. Its nowhere near Cloverfield shaky.