Next Competition Created 13 years ago2011-03-19 14:52:58 UTC by Dimbeak Dimbeak

Created 13 years ago2011-03-19 14:52:58 UTC by Dimbeak Dimbeak

Posted 13 years ago2011-03-20 12:28:54 UTC Post #292020
So... we begin now?
Dimbeak DimbeakRotten Bastard
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-20 12:32:22 UTC Post #292021
No. It hasn't been confirmed and no material pack has been provided yet. Be patient, the mods know the community wants another competition ASAP - they work on these things behind the scenes. You don't need to keep reminding them with threads like these.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-20 12:34:45 UTC Post #292022
We should do "map your dream home/estate".
I like that, haven't mapped for ages, I would totally learn some hl2 mapping for that.. I might actually do that anyways lol
Unbreakable UnbreakableWindows 7.9 Rating!
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-20 12:40:13 UTC Post #292023
zhlt.wad mapping! yay!

But seriously now, that idea rocks :o
Admins should make a wad we should use
Stojke StojkeUnreal
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-20 12:53:10 UTC Post #292025
But seriously now, that idea rocks :o
I think the idea diamonds actually.
Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-20 13:15:46 UTC Post #292026
Map from wad.
Totally forgot about that. I say we go for this one.
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-20 13:45:03 UTC Post #292027
Map from wad. Soooooo overdue. Sounds fun!
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-20 13:54:54 UTC Post #292028
Map from wad. Yipee!
Dimbeak DimbeakRotten Bastard
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-20 14:05:04 UTC Post #292029
Should be fun!

I think TWHL competitions are way to rare. We need competition after competition!
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-20 16:32:06 UTC Post #292031
no, too common! :(
Skals SkalsLevel Designer
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-20 17:48:06 UTC Post #292043
Well to me TWHL looks completely dead.
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-20 18:05:34 UTC Post #292044
If it's interesting enough, I think I'd like to make a small map. SO MAKE IT INTERESTING.
Luke LukeLuke
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 01:38:02 UTC Post #292057
Map a map within a map using only the provided .wad

There :P
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 04:34:43 UTC Post #292058
I'm down, what a wonderful idea. Rim should make the wads he's a beast! Was. should probably stick to some what of a theme...
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 05:13:35 UTC Post #292059
Seriously, why hasn't "map from a wad" happened yet? Wasn't it supposed to be the last compo until "map a dream" was opted over it?
Or am I horribly mistaken?

Edit: Must have been. I just found the other thread.
http://twhl.info/forums.php?thread=17350&page=1
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 05:46:35 UTC Post #292060
hasn't happened yet because it takes time to put a texture pack together.

a couple months back i was chatting with the aussie mods about potential compo ideas. we discussed the idea of short restriction-based competitions. pretty much all of our compos are really open ended and people always aim too high and end up submitting half assed and unfinished entries (or don't submit at all).

the texture pack compo is a clever one. it would be difficult to make a huge mod with a limited amount of textures whilst still keeping things interesting. this encourages smaller, finishable and hopefully more polished entries.

other competition ideas i raised were based on the little competitions going on at mapcore. not long ago there was a 20-brush based compo which produced some really interesting results. more recently there was a competition where entries were limited to a 1024³ unit playable area.

these restriction based compos make creating an entry fairly easy and can be done in as little as a couple hours. i mean how long does it take to make 20 brushes?

but by far the best part about these restrictions is that they promote and reward creativity. isn't that the whole idea of mapping?
Trapt Traptlegend
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 05:49:22 UTC Post #292061
It hasn't been done yet because we have to think about Source. Any texture pack we make or use has to be made for Source first, so it doesn't look garbage in-game. That also means any normal maps and the like.

Unless anyone can recommend a good, free, and reasonably small texture pack for Source that we can shrink down into a wad, too?

EDIT: What Trapt said.

I'm really in favour of a smaller restricted compo or two while we organise the texture one.
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 06:36:45 UTC Post #292062
just so you guys can get a feel of what kind of submissions these competitions produce, here are those compos from mapcore i mentioned:

1024³ challenge
20 brush challenge

to push creativity even further, some level of gameplay was made mandatory. so you can't just make an empty room or something without losing serious points during judging.

some really clever and inspiring submissions tbh.
Trapt Traptlegend
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 07:20:20 UTC Post #292063
Hey, how about a jumping challenge map? With some limitation perhaps, winner being the one with most creative jumping obstacles, smoothest game-play and best scenery.
When I say jumping challenge map, I mean like a map filled with all sorts of obstacles preventing the player at point A from reaching point B. Could be fun huh? and imaginative since there are all sorts of crazy traps and obstacles you can make! It's only limited by your imagination!
Skals SkalsLevel Designer
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 08:28:39 UTC Post #292064
LOL! Skals be hoppin :D

A deathrun map would be pretty hard to make... Especialy with all those limitations and conditions.
Stojke StojkeUnreal
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 12:54:38 UTC Post #292067
Map from a Wad eh? What about source?
Madcow MadcowSpy zappin my udder
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 13:07:51 UTC Post #292069
There's gonna be a texturepack for Source as well.

@Trapt: those look hot! Perhaps we can have a similar compo on TWHL as well?
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 13:28:06 UTC Post #292070
i believe that was the idea.
Trapt Traptlegend
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 14:34:37 UTC Post #292071
Looks like another poll is in order, because the 1024 challenge looks fun as balls. Which we all know are fun.
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 15:34:53 UTC Post #292073
Love the 20 brushes idea. Maybe we can run that as a mini, try it ourselves?
Rimrook RimrookSince 2003
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 16:11:53 UTC Post #292074
Stop stealing ideas.
Skals SkalsLevel Designer
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 18:04:34 UTC Post #292078
Just get textures for source and than down scale them a bit for gold. Very simple... Gold can handle pretty big textures 256x256 are pretty nice.
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 18:58:35 UTC Post #292079
20 brushes = 20 solids?
Stojke StojkeUnreal
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-21 23:57:44 UTC Post #292091
Agreed with rim... But i'd really rather the big compo happen.

Well for now we could hold the mini compo, just start a thread for it...
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-22 00:02:48 UTC Post #292093
don't understand the point of mini compos, i'm fairly sure the process of addition of a proper compo is fairly easy once a brief is written up and a deadline given.
Trapt Traptlegend
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-22 02:18:32 UTC Post #292096
Map a "Time Travel" sequence, anyone?
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-22 02:29:33 UTC Post #292098
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-22 04:10:38 UTC Post #292100
If we have another idea or two for a mini-compo I'll throw a vote up. There are lots of restrictions I can think of, like sticking to a certain colour scheme, or certain shapes...?

I think the brush limit is the best idea, so far.
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-22 04:46:50 UTC Post #292101
i also like the brush limit but maybe 20 is a bit too few for TWHL. the folks on mapcore are pretty serious level designers (most have proper jobs as developers), i'm thinking 25 or 30 would be better off.

any reason why these can't be proper competitions? surely all we need is someone to write out some rules. i don't know how the competition system works for TWHL but i honestly think there'll be a better turnout if it were a proper compo.

i don't think these perfectly good ideas should go to waste on a mini compo where winners aren't going to be properly recognised.
Trapt Traptlegend
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-22 05:06:08 UTC Post #292103
Recognition smecogsmition its all in good fun while we wait for an official one to come out.

Another idea is... ugh, ideas too big, uhh thinking...

still thinking...
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-22 05:28:08 UTC Post #292105
Oh, this will be a proper competition. It's just smaller than most, so I'm calling it a mini-compo. It may be judged differently though, through poll or forum voting.
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-22 08:06:38 UTC Post #292107
I like the idea of a small 1024-unit cube map, too. Possibly do a few with different focuses? Architecture, Ambience, Lighting, Entity Work, Gameplay, that kind of thing?
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-22 17:15:54 UTC Post #292122
20 brushes = 20 solids?
Also, does that include sky-brushes?
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-22 17:19:55 UTC Post #292123
I don't think I'll be entering this competition. A while back I read somewhere that you guys might need some additional judges for the upcoming competitions? If that position is still up I'd be happy to be one of the judges for the next one.
Skals SkalsLevel Designer
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-22 18:04:02 UTC Post #292128
I'll think of an idea while i'm at school today.
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-23 03:24:16 UTC Post #292154
Also, does that include sky-brushes?
doesn't include sky/tool or trigger brushes.
Trapt Traptlegend
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-23 04:33:48 UTC Post #292156
Alright, the 1024 and brush limit ideas seem pretty popular, so I've thrown a poll up. Keepin' it simple, the fewer ideas the quicker I can make it happen.
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-23 06:50:20 UTC Post #292158
thrown up a poll implies you've already done so. And fewer ideas the quicker implies other wise. You still waiting on ideas?

ah ha! Got two "mini" ideas.

1. Map a swimming pool.

2. Map a graveyard.

Ehh, those are my ideas.
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-23 07:51:16 UTC Post #292159
Can some one explain me what does 20 brushes map mean >_>
Stojke StojkeUnreal
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-23 08:31:17 UTC Post #292160
don't understand the point of mini compos, i'm fairly sure the process of addition of a proper compo is fairly easy once a brief is written up and a deadline given.
idk, i always felt the point of minicompos were to flex a very specific aspect of your mapping ability in a short amount of time, as opposed to devoting 2 months of your life to a full-scale compo. (i personally fail out of most regular compos because i don't have the time to devote to properly finish it)
waste on a mini compo where winners aren't going to be properly recognised.
True, but should formal recognition be your driving force to create something? idk, personally, if i create something decent, i don't really care if i recieve a formal award.

Zeeba: i like those two mini ideas, and YOU KNOW i love mini's based on brushwork, though i would love to see a minicompo based on custom texturing or anything other than brushwork for a change.
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-23 09:13:05 UTC Post #292161
I would love to see a minicompo based on custom texturing
People have to know how to texture first. :P

I'm mostly sure that wouldn't pull in many entries.
TheGrimReafer TheGrimReaferADMININATOR
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-23 14:49:43 UTC Post #292165
Did my proposal get blanked or something? What do I have to do, send you a CV?
Skals SkalsLevel Designer
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-23 15:37:42 UTC Post #292166
Your right captain but on either custon textures would help. Realistic water, tomb stone writing, grass, scrolling water/ rain, metal fence etc.

I love the simplicity of mini comp.s and they are so much more chalant.
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-23 15:57:19 UTC Post #292167
Hey, what about the Map from Wad/Vtf compo? Add this one to the poll as well, geez. :/
Posted 13 years ago2011-03-23 17:43:31 UTC Post #292176
Thought that was for the full competition not mini.
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