Competition 31
Created 13 years ago2011-09-18 00:28:59 UTC by
Strider
Created 13 years ago2011-09-18 00:28:59 UTC by
Strider
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-25 07:18:47 UTC
Post #299379
I just started sketching something, looked for a glass texture and was about to say that you forgot adding it. The thumbnail didn't look at all as a glass texture, but then I noticed the name :D.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-25 09:09:55 UTC
Post #299380
i am going to map a single player map... i dont like deathmatches
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-25 11:01:43 UTC
Post #299381
I've seen some of these textures before, or at least parts of them. I think we use the same source! :]
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-25 14:29:57 UTC
Post #299389
Excuse me gentlemens but I haz question!
Is really the rule "no custom models" necessary? If so what does it mean?
Is really the rule "no custom models" necessary? If so what does it mean?
- Only models from the GCF-files in steamapps folder are allowed?
- Can I use HL and CZ models in a CS map?
- Or are we allowed to use any model that is already existing?
- What aboot decals.wad?
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-25 14:53:14 UTC
Post #299392
I presume that "no custom models" means that if you have to move them from one folder to another, you're breaking the rules.
Strider said that the map won't be judged on models anyway, so there's very little point in using custom ones.
Strider said that the map won't be judged on models anyway, so there's very little point in using custom ones.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-25 15:07:45 UTC
Post #299394
well i need some textures just pure colors, yellow, blue so can i use fx color value?
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-25 15:54:44 UTC
Post #299395
fx color has to be allowed its an engine function, not a texture. besides the textures being used arent changed.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-25 16:19:08 UTC
Post #299398
the two carbon fibre materials (c31_metal2a, c31_metal2b) use a surfaceprop which only works in HL2 & episodes, not CSS or L4D or anything, so if you're mapping for them, change the vmt so that
"$surfaceprop" "combine_metal"
reads
"$surfaceprop" "metal"
my bad
"$surfaceprop" "combine_metal"
reads
"$surfaceprop" "metal"
my bad
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-25 18:24:59 UTC
Post #299404
There are only two light textures, that's kinda limited. Are we allowed to use light textures from halflife.wad? Because i think spot lights as well as large industrial lights are pretty common in industrial areas.
I say the only textures from halflife.wad that you're allowed to use are tool textures and light textures, nothing else.
I say the only textures from halflife.wad that you're allowed to use are tool textures and light textures, nothing else.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-25 20:18:06 UTC
Post #299407
That's part of the challenge muzz :):)
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-25 22:34:53 UTC
Post #299415
What is the word on Decals? Plus, nice texture choices. So far it is all blending together fairly nicely! =]
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-25 23:59:30 UTC
Post #299416
My two cents: decals and overlays shouldn't be allowed. I originally thought the exact opposite, but I think that with the entire point of this competition being creating something unique with a limited palette, allowing decals would somewhat undermine that.
Lights for Goldsource, I'm not too sure about, though. Source mappers have the advantage of a very wide selection of light props, whereas Goldsourcers have to stick with those two included textures. Not sure how fair that is (or are the two engines being judged separately again?)
Lights for Goldsource, I'm not too sure about, though. Source mappers have the advantage of a very wide selection of light props, whereas Goldsourcers have to stick with those two included textures. Not sure how fair that is (or are the two engines being judged separately again?)
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 00:29:46 UTC
Post #299417
All is good
All is fine
Start this comp
And end this rhyme
All is fine
Start this comp
And end this rhyme
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 02:11:53 UTC
Post #299419
dimbark can win this compo; he shows much promise in mapping you know
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 05:04:34 UTC
Post #299421
Do custom skies count as custom textures?
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 05:12:19 UTC
Post #299422
I think you guys are reading too much into this.
Use the textures the compo provides you with and vanilla everything else.
God dammit.
Use the textures the compo provides you with and vanilla everything else.
God dammit.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 05:40:00 UTC
Post #299424
Actually doodle raises a good point, in order for it to be more thematic, a custom sky texture for the pack wouldn't hurt.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 05:48:09 UTC
Post #299425
No custom content is allowed at all.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 06:10:42 UTC
Post #299427
:rly:
Oh well, will work something out.
Oh well, will work something out.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 06:13:28 UTC
Post #299428
Those textures you selected look alright, but you're missing a water texture... and what about all the function textures?
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 06:42:48 UTC
Post #299429
Check the rules on the compo page.
Tool textures are fine, as they're obviously necessary
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 07:30:16 UTC
Post #299430
Wait, it began already? ...and what about the water texture? Can I use any water texture?
edit: oh wait there is water, but it's slimey :/
edit: oh wait there is water, but it's slimey :/
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 07:48:59 UTC
Post #299431
If every texture you wanted to use was in the set, that would defeat the entire purpose of the competition. You need to work with what you have available to create you entry. Now can everybody stop complaining?
And Strider, answer the damn decal question already!
And Strider, answer the damn decal question already!
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 08:14:40 UTC
Post #299432
No decals!
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 09:45:43 UTC
Post #299433
Fine. I will take these textures and give you the most amazing map I've ever created.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 10:04:08 UTC
Post #299434
Is really the rule "no custom models" necessary? If so what does it mean?Models are allowed, but remember that's not what we're judging.
ps. zhlt.wad is allowed too
i have been working on the competition map since yesterday:
screen -> http://i.imgur.com/6Mxd5.jpg
^^
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 10:16:07 UTC
Post #299435
Use the textures the compo provides you with and vanilla everything else.Seriously. Some of you guys show just how many questions you asked during a school test. That's how you behave.
God dammit.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 16:29:30 UTC
Post #299448
@Strider
No decals!? You wanna see no decals, ey?
I'll show you no decals! Just wait...
No decals!? You wanna see no decals, ey?
I'll show you no decals! Just wait...
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 18:26:59 UTC
Post #299449
.<Lmfao.
Gotta play by the rules dude.
I think we're lucky we got such a high-quality texture set. (Thanks to Archie and Strider)
The challenge is having a limited pallette. I have a few ideas sketched out but really... none of my maps ever follow a set structure.. just let the ideas flow and see what you can come up with. =]
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-26 18:59:15 UTC
Post #299450
i have been working on the competition map since yesterday:Oh you bitch.
screen -> http://i.imgur.com/6Mxd5.jpg
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 00:25:44 UTC
Post #299459
So far I got a funky lookin sewer.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 03:07:26 UTC
Post #299461
er, I'm making 255 solid func_walls of those grating textures and blue parts still show up? What to do?
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 03:31:41 UTC
Post #299462
Whoops, looks like I messed up the indexing. I'll fix it up and upload a new WAD, but I can't do it for a few hours (work).
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 04:14:03 UTC
Post #299465
ok jolly good
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 08:34:31 UTC
Post #299475
Okay, this one should work.
I'll update the link in the compo brief soon. Let me know if I've buggered any other textures up, I'm out of touch with Goldsource.
I'll update the link in the compo brief soon. Let me know if I've buggered any other textures up, I'm out of touch with Goldsource.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 10:50:48 UTC
Post #299480
For shame. 
Also, may I suggest that this thread be stickied and the Competition 30 thread be unstickied?
Also, may I suggest that this thread be stickied and the Competition 30 thread be unstickied?
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 12:00:23 UTC
Post #299482
Good call. Done.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 15:27:12 UTC
Post #299488
Custom sounds? Yay? Nay?
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 16:03:49 UTC
Post #299489
Hi I will attent to this contest...
But there are some things still unclear: What exactly do you classify as tool texutre.wads ?? Zhlt.wad I assume are there any more wads. which are classified as tool textures?
From the posts I've read on top it appears that decals will be forbidden is that correct if yes I have no problem with that. But I would like a clear confirmation.
Who exactly is the admin of this contest?
Are custom sounds allowed? There has been no answer for that question yet.
Please update this informations on the mainpage to that compo because others are also wondering about the same things. You should always make the descriptions as noob friendly as possible 'cause as you can see many are confused right now.
Can I also create my level lets say for Opposing Force for example instead of regular Half-Life1 or Half-Life2? Are there limitations or can we basically map for every gold source game or every source game that's officially created by valve?
But there are some things still unclear: What exactly do you classify as tool texutre.wads ?? Zhlt.wad I assume are there any more wads. which are classified as tool textures?
From the posts I've read on top it appears that decals will be forbidden is that correct if yes I have no problem with that. But I would like a clear confirmation.
Who exactly is the admin of this contest?
Are custom sounds allowed? There has been no answer for that question yet.
Please update this informations on the mainpage to that compo because others are also wondering about the same things. You should always make the descriptions as noob friendly as possible 'cause as you can see many are confused right now.
Can I also create my level lets say for Opposing Force for example instead of regular Half-Life1 or Half-Life2? Are there limitations or can we basically map for every gold source game or every source game that's officially created by valve?
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 16:42:05 UTC
Post #299490
are there any more wads. which are classified as tool textures?Any texture which does not affect the visuals of a map is a tool texture. Examples of these are AAATrigger, Skip, Hint, Null, Origin etc. ZHLT.wad has all the ones you'll need.
But I would like a clear confirmation.Decals are not allowed.
Who exactly is the admin of this contest?These guys.
Are custom sounds allowed?Why would you want to waste your time on custom sounds if they're not even going to be judged? This is a texture pack competition.
can we basically map for every gold source game or every source game that's officially created by valve?Yep.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 16:48:10 UTC
Post #299491
Your goldsource { textures aren't properly constructed. They are still mostly blue... Mostly.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 19:40:54 UTC
Post #299492
Well its the whole experience of the map USING the textures. You all know how I like to go single player with my compo entries I wanna try to make a storyline. Custom sounds would greatley help me achieve this
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 20:49:03 UTC
Post #299499
I've already said this once before, but here it is again:
No custom content of any kind is allowed.
Also:
No decals or overlays
Using models and NPCs is allowed, but you cannot overuse them
Tool textures are the ones that aren't visible in-game. If you can see a texture when you play it, it must be from the texture pack.
You can use any official Valve game for your map.
Honestly, most of this is in the compo brief. Use your brains before asking questions!
No custom content of any kind is allowed.
Also:
No decals or overlays
Using models and NPCs is allowed, but you cannot overuse them
Tool textures are the ones that aren't visible in-game. If you can see a texture when you play it, it must be from the texture pack.
You can use any official Valve game for your map.
Honestly, most of this is in the compo brief. Use your brains before asking questions!
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 20:55:48 UTC
Post #299500
relating to the texture sizes, if you scale down a big texture to .50 that is exactly twice the normal size, will it be same perormance-wise to a texture that is the normal size at 1.00?
The more i think about this compo, the more i'm really getting stoked about mapping for it.. = )
The more i think about this compo, the more i'm really getting stoked about mapping for it.. = )
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 21:03:19 UTC
Post #299502
No, scaling down big textures causes worse performance then having a existing smaller texture at normal scale.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 21:11:36 UTC
Post #299503
i scale my textures from 1.00 to 0.50 sometimes but we got much powerfull machines than in the day when HL1 was released so we can scale them a bit
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-27 22:15:02 UTC
Post #299508
Don't worry about performance, the judges have decent machines so it's not really an issue. If you do actually resize textures, give the new WAD or VTF a unique name so you don't cause conflicts in my game folders.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-28 00:19:59 UTC
Post #299512
The rules don't mention skyboxes and the pack doesn't have any; Am I correct in assuming we can use any vanilla skyboxes?
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-28 01:00:10 UTC
Post #299513
You people ask such odd questions, Use some initiative!
Of course you can use any vanilla skyboxes.
Of course you can use any vanilla skyboxes.
Posted 13 years ago2011-09-28 01:24:01 UTC
Post #299514
What about decals? Like a crack or something?
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