Gaming Rage Created 6 years ago2018-08-27 13:01:03 UTC by satchmo

Did you guys hear what happened in Florida in the US?

A sore loser turned deadly when he opened fired on others in a gaming tournament.

This gives competitive gaming a bad name.

Reminds me of when Elliot Rodgers went partying and decided that if he couldn't get laid that particular night, he'd do his shooting.

Shootings come from a place of resentment, and disempowered/loser men are probably the most resentful creatures on the planet.

wasnt there some guy who went all the way to another players house to kill him because of loosing in counter strike?

Anyway I'm guessing that guy had major issues in his life unrelated to gaming, and loosing the tournament was prolly the last straw.

"wasnt there some guy who went all the way to another players house to kill him because of loosing in counter strike? "
Think that happened in France. The victim was stabbed. (But survived!) I even think that it took several months for the attacker to find his rival's address...

America's gun profusion plus the general lingering sense of masculine entitlement mixes to make one hell of a shitty cocktail.

Gotta love that second amendment...

I don't think it has anything to do with masculinity. Hell, if the guy had more masculine traits he probably wouldn't have been so resentful about reality. Emasculation, resentment, and powerlessness tend to be where these feelings come from. Hell, look at the manifestos of the Columbine kids and Elliot Rodgers.

Rodgers especially was obsessed with how tall he was, ashamed of how weak he was, and felt powerless when dealing with people. I wouldn't call these massive insecurities masculine traits. Entitlement, sure, but not masculine.

It certainly has something to do with being a male (considering the overwhelming majority of males in mass shootings), but blaming everything bad that happens in the world purely on a moral and educational system that would allegedly make guys feel like they have the right to commit mass shootings seems terribly baseless and simplistic to me.

I'd rather not have an opinion about the second amendment. That's not my business, I'm not in the US, plus the only view I get about the subject here in Europe is always the same. That being said, I probably wouldn't want it in my country. Now, it's still hard for me to understand why someone with such mental disorders was able to legally buy guns...

I mean, the gun thing is (and has been for a long time) damn near farcical. The sheer fetishization of a thing so dangerous, kept afloat by a religious dedication to a piece of paper written up centuries ago (as though it would remain perfectly relevant and meaningful after all the changes in technology and civilization we've been through and will continue to go through). And any attempt to change the status quo gets steamrolled by an organization that is rolling in money because of them, that bankrolls the politicians and does its damnedest to convince everyone that they need these things that they are being occasionally slaughtered with.

But masculinity? Yes, that's certainly part. It's exactly why toxic masculinity is a phrase. Toxic because it isn't just harmful to people who aren't male, but harmful to males as well. Obviously individual circumstances vary, not everyone goes nuts with a gun, etcetera. But it's why the suicide rates of males are so much higher than females. It's why mass shootings are overwhelmingly done by males. The male experience is driven by the idea that no matter what happens, you must be manly. Repress emotions, no crying, be strong, be cool, don't be a girl, and enforce it all on the people beneath you. Not everyone can handle this (nor should they have to), and society's disapproval of that only exacerbates any issues a person might already have. It's all driven by the sentiment that femininity is bad and should be rejected. And that hurts everyone.

blaming everything bad that happens in the world purely on a moral and educational system that would allegedly make guys feel like they have the right to commit mass shootings seems terribly baseless and simplistic to me.

Yeah, it is pretty simplistic. But it's not about feeling like "you have the right" to commit a mass shooting. It's a rebellion against the nature of living. It's rooted in resentment, powerlessness, and hatred. It's the spirit of a resentful Cain rebelling against god by killing that which he himself respects.

I think there is definitely a societal system in place which trains people to feel entitled.

(as though it would remain perfectly relevant and meaningful after all the changes in technology and civilization we've been through and will continue to go through).

It's to defend against tyranny and protect yourself as an individual. Only the most privileged people on Earth are comfortable enough to think they don't need a gun to defend themselves. The underprivileged must be allowed to defend themselves from harm.

The male experience is driven by the idea that no matter what happens, you must be manly.

I think you've got a strong point here. But at the same time, I think masculine traits are very positive and can be used to counterract evil, internally and externally.

I think masculine traits are very positive and can be used to counterract evil, internally and externally.

Someones been listening to the Peterson!

Masculinity is not 'toxic' and I wish people would stop saying that. Femininity is also not 'bad'. They are both wonderful things and compliment each other.

The issue is is that men need to be taught how to properly harness their masculinity and use it positively. Guys need role models and unfortunately not everyone has that in their life to guide them. Jordan Peterson has turned a lot of guys around through by his words and is the perfect example as that kind of role model.

Weak men and cowards commit these violent crimes.

Men with strength and courage face their problems and take care of business.

I have friends in Jax and god damn this shit is getting so fucking olde.