are skyboxes really that bad... Created 19 years ago2005-01-28 15:07:36 UTC by Guinea Pirate

i dont see what the big deal is with people saying skyboxes are bad. sure it is a big box around the level that makes more surfaces visible. but it also adds alot of atmosphere to the level. and with good use of visblockers and hint brushes, you can easily keep the r_speeds under control. just my opinion, but i dont think theyre bad if you what youre doing.

?f its in hl dm its bad if somebody would use gauss gun !

but it also adds alot of atmosphere

what?
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Just because your PC can handle 40000 wpoly it doesn't mean everyone else's can too.

And really.. atmosphere?? wha?

Hmmmm...?

dont forget that almost every CS map is outdoors. that means skyboxes. and they dont have excessive w_poly counts.

Just because it's outdoors doesn't mean it's always skyboxed. If you go through a brush in de_dust, do you still see the sky? No, you see the void. And how would you use hint brushes and visblockers to manage r_speeds? Wouldn't it render the whole level (at least I think)?

i think you're confusing skyboxes with maps that have skies. a normal map with a sky has the sky brushes placed as if they were making an indoor map, but the sky texture makes the map seem outdoors. a skybox, however, is when you completely encase your map in sky brushes, even on faces the player never sees. this is what causes problems with the r_speeds.

And 3D Skyboxes are HL2 and still, they don't involve boxing in the entire map.

Oh, and I think it was Mulleh, or someone, who had perfected a method of skyboxing that didn't have any negative effects on R's but I can't remember how it was done.

ah i see the difference. sky brush = good , skybox = bad

Correct.

UM saco i might be wrong but if you have zhlt compile tools or whateva they are called the sky will be automaticly clipped.

Definitions:

skybox: brushes covered in sky texture have a set of textures rendered on them like a sprite in the shape of a box. Add no wpoly, don't move with the geometry to resemble real-life sky.

skybox: surrounding your map with a huge hollowed out box covered in the sky texture.

Doublethink

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if ur comper can't handle a game as bog basic as hl1
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UM saco i might be wrong but if you have zhlt compile tools or whateva they are called the sky will be automaticly clipped.
Posted on 29 Jan 05 11:52 by mcmitcho

Yep, most ZHLT 253 versions have automatic sky clipping..
But if you are doing CS or DoD and there is no chance of your players 'falling' through the sky then it is good idea to add -noskyclip to your compile, or your grenades will bounce off the sky..

I think what Saco meant is that you can use the gauss gun to jump out of the level and land on the skybox (which in that case, noone can find you unless they figure out you jumped out of the map and do the same).