http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.main/index.html
Wadya know... the Iraqis wanted freedom after all.
Created 19 years ago2005-01-30 20:40:03 UTC by Unknown Genius
Why is everyone so arrogant ;/Because they're americans.
Because they're americans.I'm FRENCH, try taking some time off from thinking you know it all, step down off your high horse, relax your finger pointing, and instead, learn to read.
But Rabid's comment was against youHe said "No comment" so that's NO comment, not a comment against someone. And "Why is everyone so arrogant?" which is a question not a comment, and it doesn't have anything to do with me since I didn't say ME or MY country did anything so great. How is me telling someone ELSE "great job" being arrogant? See?
Way to not back down and be cowardly whining bitches like some others in the world! Let the pussies of the world sit back and point the finger at America while they do absolutely nothing to make the world better, while you step up and make sacrifices fighting the evil tyrany of brutal dictators.Erm, not exactly the truth. Alexander The Great tried to change the world. Julius Caesar did. Napoleon Bonapard (since your french, please don't curse me, if I didn't spelled it right) tried, then Hitler, then Stalin and they all failed. And not just this, but they and their people were punished after that. The Greeks were invaded and enslaved by the Roman empire, then by the Ottomans and now they are pretty much nothing. Romans don't even exist anymore (german barbarians, then ottomans as well). As for France, well, atleast nothing changed. Germany was trying to achieve race purificatin and look at them now - more than 30% of the people are far from having german predecesors. The Soviet Union broke apart, and it caused half a century of depresion among the russian territories. After all these hisotrical events what makes you thinks that the US are going to have diffirent fate?
what are THEY doing to make the world better?Well, the death of at least 15.500 civilians since the war begun is hardly what I call "making the world better" No freedom should be placed above the freedom of life
Well, the death of at least 15.500 civilians since the war begun is hardly what I call "making the world better"But a free Irac and the removal of Sadam is an improvement. No one likes that any innocents (be it 1, the actual number, or the number you quote) got kiled, but few would argue that because innocents in Nazi Germany were killed, Hitler should have been untouched (just an example).
After all these hisotrical events what makes you thinks that the US are going to have diffirent fate?Well the two huge differences I see between the rulers you mentioned and the US are that America is a free democratic society, the others pretty much were ruled by dictators. And all the leaders you mentioned, gained power by invading and defeating many others with their military. The US has the influence it has in the world after invading pretty much no one.
yeah, they would like countries to stand up and do it themselves, but its a little hard to run your own country when there's 1000 american soldiers running the streets doing it for you.You seem to have misunderstood what I said. I said the US would like help from other contries to police militant dictators, not help from the dictator.
pretty much no one? hitler only invaded france, and he did'nt actually reach britain. whereas the USA currently has armed forces occupying over 60 countries...You should read your history about Hitler, I'm pretty sure you're a little off about him. And though its true that the US has forces in several countries, that's way different than occupying them. Do you consider Germany, Spain, and Great Brittain occupied countries? I don't hear these countries saying to get out, so I guess they like having them there.
And since you Spanish killed many millions of innocent people, and tortured and enslaved the rest, when you invaded the Americas for gold, I find it odd that you, with so much blood on your hands...The Spanish killed millions? sure, thousands of trillions. Ask yourself why there are indian people in South America but almost none are left in North America LOL. It's because the Spanish mixed with the people they conquered, instead of wiping them out or putting them in Indian reserves... dont make me laugh!!
And since you Spanish killed many millions of innocent people, and tortured and enslaved the rest, when you invaded the Americas for gold, I find it odd that you, with so much blood on your hands...Yeah, really, when you think again the spanish shouldn't have invaded Amercia, neither any other country should had. That way no US was going to mess around with the world nowdays.
You should read your history about Hitler, I'm pretty sure you're a little off about him. And though its true that the US has forces in several countries, that's way different than occupying themSome people like to go out and kick you in the but, and others become your friends, then they fuck you real bad. In the ass. So there's no diffirence in the actions of nazy Gemrany and "democratic" USA.
Well the two huge differences I see between the rulers you mentioned and the US are that America is a free democratic society, the others pretty much were ruled by dictators. And all the leaders you mentioned, gained power by invading and defeating many others with their military. The US has the influence it has in the world after invading pretty much no one.Just let me ask you this question: Where's the damn diffirence? All these dictatorships failed, because there were unhappiness. The american actions toward fighting terrorism and liberating countries leaves nothing else but angry people. The outcome of this? A peacefull demonstration of antiglobalism? A civil disorder? A possible civil war, a revolution? Only time will tell.
i've gone out there, into the big wide internet, on the HMS google and actually explored for myself.Google is a great tool to help you find information, but if all your knowledge comes from the Internet, you're screwed. You cant possibly be able to judge an entire country and its people by spending some of your spare time looking through anti-American websites. Go to America, visit different parts of the country, meet lots of people there, learn about some of the good things the US does too, then you'd at least be in some kind of position to draw some conclusions.
maybe i did get my facts wrong about hitler, i cant really remember. but did he actually get his armed forces into 60 countries? i think not.You act like these 60 countries want the US out. How come I don't hear these countries begging the UN for help freeing themselves from the US "invaders"? Oh, probably because they like having the troops there and they invited them to stay.
alright, let me rehprase that:That still makes no sense to me. I was originally referring to other countries stepping up and helping to remove militant dictators, support poor nations, and provide relief after disasters. I have no idea what you're talking about.
yeah, they would like countries to stand up and do it themselves, but its a little hard to run your own country when there's 1000 american soldiers and 800 british running the streets doing it for you.
The Spanish killed millions? sureYes, you Spanish did, for gold. Look what Pizarro did to the Incas and Cortez did to the Aztecs for an example of what Spain was up to in the Americas.
It's because the Spanish mixed with the people they conquered, instead of wiping them out or putting them in Indian reserves... dont make me laugh!!They may have "mixed" with what was left after they murdered, tortured, and enslaved millions of them. It's estimated that there were more than 15,000,000 Indians living in mexico arount the time Cortez reached reached it. 100 years later, there were around 700,000. In Peru before Pizarro, there were around 10,000,000 Indians. 100 years later there were only around 600,000 left. That's many, many millions, do the math.
So there's no diffirence in the actions of nazy Gemrany and "democratic" USA.Right, cause the US gasses millions of it's own citizens and locks you and your family in jail, or kills you, if you say anything bad about the government. Oh, and the US also invades all its neighbors and takes all their property, etc, etc... Try to get a clue, seriously. I'm definately not saying the US is perfect, or even close, but to say theres no difference between the US and Nazi's is retarded. Quit listening to that old Soviet propiganda over there in eastern Europe, you sound foolish when you repeat it.
Just let me ask you this question: Where's the damn diffirence? All these dictatorships failed, because there were unhappiness.There's unhapiness everywhere. To say that Greece, Rome, etc, failed because of unhappines, is quite an over generalization.
The american actions toward fighting terrorism and liberating countries leaves nothing else but angry people.I would dissagree. First, were talking about 2 countries, not some long list of countries that the US has arbitrarily decided to invade and liberate. Second, I saw pictures of shitloads of happy Iraqis who got a say in their future for the first time in their lives when they voted the other day. Last, I would say that most of the anger in Irac is being generated by the terrorists who are shooting, stabbing, beheading, and blowing up Iraqi citizens on purpose.
The outcome of this? A peacefull demonstration of antiglobalism? A civil disorder? A possible civil war, a revolution? Only time will tellThis world is to small to be devided into so many us's and them's. One day, probably very long from now, everyone will look at everyone else as their neighbors and will work together toward common goals, instead of trying to stick it to someone else for their own benefit.
By the way, there are lots of countries still under dictatorships today. The problem is that some of those countries are very poor, they dont have oil or strategic value, so the US probably thinks their freedom isnt worth it. There are also dictators that get along well with the US, so there's no point in getting democracy there...As powerfull as everyone thinks the US is, it just doesn't have the resources to right every wrong in the world (not that that's her mission, or should it be). So, if theres a choice between challenging 2 equally bad situations, and one has an advantage for you, which one would you choose? Let me ask you this, what great prize was the US looking for when they tried to stop the fighting in Somalia so that UN food could get through and feed millions of starving poor people? And what about the billions of dollars, equipment, manpower, and supplies the US gave to those people whose families were lost and whose lives were ruined in those poor countries because of the tsunami? It gets kind of lame hearing only b.s. negative stereotypes and rhetoric about my country when I don't see you doing jack squat to make things better in the world.
Spain had a big terrorist attack last year (I was in Madrid that day) and no one said: "Lets go to war with Marocco!!Well no one here said "Lets go to war with Mexico and Canada" so what's your point? And didn't people from your own country claim responsibility for that train bombing? So why would you need to go elsewhere to get those responsible? Almost as bad as the rhetoric, is the sensless arguments I keep hearing.
9/11 was also planned, I no longer have any doubtsIf you believe that George Bush planned 9/11 so he could get 4 more years in office, that's your right. Some people believe in the Lochness monster, bigfoot, and that Elvis is still alive. I personally do not believe anything until I've seen indesputable proof concerning it, not just speculation.
Yes, you Spanish didThose are not my ancestors, they are the ancestors of millions of South American citizens. Every European country that had the power to do so, went to America to conquer. Not just Spain. Spain was the first since it had the best navy when it all began. It was how things worked at that time. I've never said I agree with that. It's history.
I personally do not believe anything until I've seen indesputable proof concerning it, not just speculationYes... like all those numbers of dead indians 5 century's ago... it's probably indisputable proof, TV stations probably were keeping record of deaths and stuff Stop contradicting yourself.
If you believe that George Bush planned 9/11 so he could get 4 more years in office, that's your right. Some people believe in the Lochness monster, bigfoot, and that Elvis is still alive. I personally do not believe anything until I've seen indesputable proof concerning it, not just speculationComparing the Lochness monster and Bigfoot to something of such magnitude is deeply isulting. How dare you rubbish off the facts, evidence and unaswered questions concerning Bush's 9/11 agenda. If you believe the official garbage they tell you about what happened on that day then you are likely to be more prone to paranormal beliefs.