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Oh my word that is lovely Instant Mix
Awesome, I'll try to get on! =P
^ Hooray for unconventional use of props, i couldn't agree more 
Tet, you ever kitbash parts from different model kits?
Model rockets are great to kitbash, because all the parts are pretty modular =)
Tet, you ever kitbash parts from different model kits?
Model rockets are great to kitbash, because all the parts are pretty modular =)
Are there any other missing obscure keyboard shortcuts that you know of?Hammer has a lot! i would sift through the Hammer shortcut key reference, as you are sure to find some new ones
100% user-created doors Instant, and I really like your WIP screen; those light beams look awesome
Positively Instant Mix!
While interactivity/gameplay/puzzles are not required, they are ABSOLUTELY encouraged! That looks really cool btw!
While interactivity/gameplay/puzzles are not required, they are ABSOLUTELY encouraged! That looks really cool btw!
JeffMOD: You know, the more i think about and to avoid confusion, i'm going to take over the doing ALL the hallways--unless you guys have a major objection--, so everyone is on an even playing field.
I will try to make them all equally awesome, and I'd also be willing to do an final pass on all the hallways, via everyone's feedback.
Also, i'm gonna take myself out of the competition aspect of the coop, to again keep things fair
I will try to make them all equally awesome, and I'd also be willing to do an final pass on all the hallways, via everyone's feedback.
Also, i'm gonna take myself out of the competition aspect of the coop, to again keep things fair
Remember you found that technique that made making them WAY easier, and you were gonna make a little example/tutorial for it
i have the post saved somewhere...
i have the post saved somewhere...
Still patiently awaiting that amazing displacements tutorial you promised Tet
It would be a really good time to help the GS mappers, and whet the appetite of source mappers looking to expand/hone their skills
It would be a really good time to help the GS mappers, and whet the appetite of source mappers looking to expand/hone their skills
I wish i could sketch... you can really see the results of planning like this in your maps
I have a couple fun ideas for my entry, but we'll see which of them pan out...
One I'd like to do would be a Starship Voyager tribute, making the main shuttlebay and Admiral Janeway's shuttle.. (maybe some user toggles to activate ablative armor and other fun stuff like decompressing the hangar)
I have a couple fun ideas for my entry, but we'll see which of them pan out...
One I'd like to do would be a Starship Voyager tribute, making the main shuttlebay and Admiral Janeway's shuttle.. (maybe some user toggles to activate ablative armor and other fun stuff like decompressing the hangar)
Ha nice one Tet, i was thinking you meant it for the WIP thread
Welcome aboard then, i'll add you to the list
Welcome aboard then, i'll add you to the list
You WILL have plenty of time to join later on if you get the time, as i'm guessing it will be months before all the enries are submitted, and den another month at least to put them together
Zeeba: Yes indeed displacements are the shit
Zeeba: Yes indeed displacements are the shit
The theme is wide open, so no need to add a puzzle aspect, though it will definitely make your map more interesting
I'll leave you on the list for now, no big deal if you end up opting out
Though not required, adding ANY kind of gameplay will make your map better
I'll leave you on the list for now, no big deal if you end up opting out
Though not required, adding ANY kind of gameplay will make your map better
While i agree with you and Rufee that the room should basically be a single volume, I'm not going to enforce that rule if someone builds an amazing multi-volume entry(like with the last rooms).
Put it this way: Authors are free to Stretch the relative definition of whatever they feel a "room" means to them
Put it this way: Authors are free to Stretch the relative definition of whatever they feel a "room" means to them
Yeah, no idea what i was thinking writing 2056, i just copy/pasted.. It's ironic my Newmap Template, which I've used for centuries, is a hollowed 2048^3 cube =P
I was planning to give some more time for rule/restriction changes, but if you guys are all happy with the brief--see first post, lovingly edited by Penguinboy--, I see no reason why we can't get started
Here are the current entrants(please let me know if you want on/off the list):
Captain Terror
Archie
Rufee
Ant
Zeeba-G
JeffMOD
Crypt
DiscoStu(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
Strideh
Instant Mix
TJB
Doodle
Maps will begin to be linked together when everyone on the above list has submitted their entry. I will continue to accept new entries for about a month or so after that, while i'm linking the maps together
More info on 3d Skyboxes
I was planning to give some more time for rule/restriction changes, but if you guys are all happy with the brief--see first post, lovingly edited by Penguinboy--, I see no reason why we can't get started
Here are the current entrants(please let me know if you want on/off the list):
Captain Terror
Archie
Rufee
Ant
Zeeba-G
JeffMOD
Crypt
DiscoStu(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
Strideh
Instant Mix
TJB
Doodle
Maps will begin to be linked together when everyone on the above list has submitted their entry. I will continue to accept new entries for about a month or so after that, while i'm linking the maps together
To confirm, is that size the absolute limit, or just the playable bounds? I mean.Playable area. Does not include a 3d skybox or inaccessible areas. Top post has been edited with the updated rules/restrictions
Goldsource ain't got skyboxesThis ain't entirely true, since you CAN build the enitre 3dskybox in your map--in GS--, and i will implement it in source, which just requires me to basically scale it down 1/16th the size, and place a sky camera at your map origin.
More info on 3d Skyboxes
Agreed, 2048^3 it is
None that i can think of Jeff. (if you want to use assets from other games in your map, it's fine with me) =P
Updated Rules
1. Build a room, theme can be whatever you want. The only requirement of the room is that it has an entrance and an exit, and playable area does not exceed 2056x2056 units.
2. Submissions should be Half-Life2: Episode 2 or GoldSrc formats--GS entries will be converted to HL2:EP2--, and you may use any assets from other games you like.
3. I'll volunteer again to build all the connecting hallways, BUT if an author so chooses, HE may build the hallway leading to the room in front of him.
4. Contest is done when we stop receiving new rooms , say a 1-month period of no submissions, means it's time to end the coop and link them up.
5. Top-three rooms win a trophy and a yet-to-be-determined pile of Cash and/or Steam Bucks, winners chosen by community vote. (entrants are allowed to donate to the prize kitty and can still win)
^ If you'd like to see any of the above changed, AND/OR, nominate a new rule/restriction, please speak up! =P
Updated Rules
1. Build a room, theme can be whatever you want. The only requirement of the room is that it has an entrance and an exit, and playable area does not exceed 2056x2056 units.
2. Submissions should be Half-Life2: Episode 2 or GoldSrc formats--GS entries will be converted to HL2:EP2--, and you may use any assets from other games you like.
3. I'll volunteer again to build all the connecting hallways, BUT if an author so chooses, HE may build the hallway leading to the room in front of him.
4. Contest is done when we stop receiving new rooms , say a 1-month period of no submissions, means it's time to end the coop and link them up.
5. Top-three rooms win a trophy and a yet-to-be-determined pile of Cash and/or Steam Bucks, winners chosen by community vote. (entrants are allowed to donate to the prize kitty and can still win)
^ If you'd like to see any of the above changed, AND/OR, nominate a new rule/restriction, please speak up! =P
Welcome Instant Mix, TJB, and Doodle! =P
Working Rule Changes
1. Maximum Room Size cannot exceed 2056x2056. Chirp in if you think this is too big or too small
1a. The maximum room size refers to the playable area of the map ONLY(does not include 3dsky and inaccessible areas)
2. Theme: Most people seem to be leaning toward an open theme now, so your room can be whatever you want. Unless somebody comes up with an amazing theme idea, and we decide to change it
3. Standard vs. User-created doors: It's close, but more people i think are for user-created doors.
^If you'd like to see any of the above changed, And/Or, would like to nominate a new rule change/restriction, please speak up!
TJB
Note
The more lights you add to the map, the longer VRAD will run, BUT, the prettier your end product lights will be
Current Participants
Captain Terror
Archie
Rufee
AJ
Zeeba-G
JeffMOD
Crypt
DiscoStu(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
Strideh
Instant Mix
TJB
Doodle
Current Prize Kitty
Working Rule Changes
1. Maximum Room Size cannot exceed 2056x2056. Chirp in if you think this is too big or too small
1a. The maximum room size refers to the playable area of the map ONLY(does not include 3dsky and inaccessible areas)
2. Theme: Most people seem to be leaning toward an open theme now, so your room can be whatever you want. Unless somebody comes up with an amazing theme idea, and we decide to change it
3. Standard vs. User-created doors: It's close, but more people i think are for user-created doors.
^If you'd like to see any of the above changed, And/Or, would like to nominate a new rule change/restriction, please speak up!
TJB
jumped from a 5 minute compile to an infinitely long compile and I never figured out whyFunc_detail ALL non-visblocking brushes, and the compile time should be back to around 5-10 minutes.
Note
The more lights you add to the map, the longer VRAD will run, BUT, the prettier your end product lights will be
Current Participants
Captain Terror
Archie
Rufee
AJ
Zeeba-G
JeffMOD
Crypt
DiscoStu(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
Strideh
Instant Mix
TJB
Doodle
Current Prize Kitty
- $20 in steam games(Thanks to Archie!)
- Misc. Steam games(Thanks to AJ!)
- Contagion and Nuclear Dawn steam games(Thanks to Strider!)
- 1 packet of gum(Thanks to TJB!) =P
No worries mate, i understand; it's a weird way to map
Notes on GS-to-EP2 conversion for potential GS authors
Jeffmod
I totally understand/agree, though I AM fascinated of how the coop would turn out using a central theme
Notes on GS-to-EP2 conversion for potential GS authors
- Your brushwork would be directly converted, with no loss or broken brushes.
- Textures and alignment: i would rip wadincluded textures wholesale from your bsp or wad, convert them, and use Replace for a seamless transition.
- Brush-based entities will translate almost 100%
- Point-based Entity work: Inputs/Outputs would be written by me, per your specifications/requests, and the existing entities in your map.
- Displacements: I would be willing to make them as per your specifications and reference pics
- 3dsky: you could actually build this yourself in hammer 3.x, and i would simiply scale and implement it in the EP2 map.
- Testing the map: This brings the interesting/obvious question. All i can think of atm would be Crafty Object Viewer by Nem, which would allow you view the map in a primitive way. The only other way i can think of is screenies..
Jeffmod
I totally understand/agree, though I AM fascinated of how the coop would turn out using a central theme
I did like the way they handled issues with a central hub. I'd rather not copy them, but if you guys want to do it that way i'll go with the majority
As for the connecting hallways, how about we handle it like this: I'm willing to make them all by default like last time; HOWEVER, if an author wants, he can build the hallway leading to the the room in front of him?
Doors?
As for having standard vs. user-created doors, i am again torn, and see the advantages of both. Please people chirp in and voice your preferences on this.
Theme?
So what do you guys think for theme ideas? I personally like Sci-fi/ futuristic stuff, but I'm down for anything. OR, should we keep each room's theme user's choice, like the original Rooms?
Alberto
True Enough, but at least you could still be a part of the coop! If you DO change your mind, I'd be willing to handle your Input/Outputs, as well creating displacements, 3dsky, and whatever else you need.. I'll take you off the list for now
As for the connecting hallways, how about we handle it like this: I'm willing to make them all by default like last time; HOWEVER, if an author wants, he can build the hallway leading to the the room in front of him?
Doors?
As for having standard vs. user-created doors, i am again torn, and see the advantages of both. Please people chirp in and voice your preferences on this.
Theme?
So what do you guys think for theme ideas? I personally like Sci-fi/ futuristic stuff, but I'm down for anything. OR, should we keep each room's theme user's choice, like the original Rooms?
Alberto
True Enough, but at least you could still be a part of the coop! If you DO change your mind, I'd be willing to handle your Input/Outputs, as well creating displacements, 3dsky, and whatever else you need.. I'll take you off the list for now
the room should be single volume to avoid people making entire maps^ I like this. =P
As for themed vs. wide-open , i could go either way; i will go with the majority i guess..
As for the doors i personally prefer 100% user-created doors(shape and size), but that's just me
I really enjoyed making the unique hallways--plus side it's also less repetative--but again, if you-all would prefer a standard corridor linking them up, i'll go with the majority.
Alternatively, we could require the mapper to build the corridor leading to the room in front of him, effectively creating a "ring" of rooms. Another alternative would be to have a button you press, or bind a key, that when pressed causes an "exit aperture" to form from thin air
Excellente! Welcome aboard Strideh =P
[b]Preliminary Rules
1. Build a room, anything you want. The only requirement of the room is that it has an entrance and an exit.
3. I'll volunteer again to build the connecting hallways, unless anyone has an objection.
5. Top-three rooms win a trophy and a yet-to-be-determined pile of Cash and/or Steam Bucks, winners chosen by community vote. (entrants are allowed to donate to the prize kitty and can still win)[/b]
Current Prize Kitty
Captain Terror
Archie
Rufee
Ghost129er?
Ant
Alberto(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
Zeeba-G
JeffMOD
Crypt
DiscoStu(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
Strideh
[b]Preliminary Rules
1. Build a room, anything you want. The only requirement of the room is that it has an entrance and an exit.
1a. We are leaning toward having rooms follow a singular theme, which will be be decided by the group. Please share your theme ideas!2. Submissions should be Half-Life2: Episode 2 or GoldSrc formats Goldsource maps will be converted to HL2:EP2
1b. We are leaning towards a predefined size restriction for entries. Two questions follow here: 1., what should the maximum size be, and 2., Does that restriction mean "playable area" of the map, or the enire thing?
3. I'll volunteer again to build the connecting hallways, unless anyone has an objection.
3a. We are leaning towards a common entrance/exit door that must be used in each map. I'm thinking the common door should reflect what theme we pick, OR, mayhaps make it resemble a futuristic "holodeck" door?4. Contest is done when we stop receiving new rooms , say a 1-month period of no submissions, means it's time to end the coop and link them up.
5. Top-three rooms win a trophy and a yet-to-be-determined pile of Cash and/or Steam Bucks, winners chosen by community vote. (entrants are allowed to donate to the prize kitty and can still win)[/b]
Current Prize Kitty
- $20 in steam games(Thanks to Archie!)
- Misc. Steam games(thanks to AJ!)
- Contagion and Nuclear Dawn steam games(Thanks to Strider!)
Captain Terror
Archie
Rufee
Ghost129er?
Ant
Alberto(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
Zeeba-G
JeffMOD
Crypt
DiscoStu(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
Strideh
Super epic! So sweet you've fulfilled some of the oldest feature requests! Congrats keeping up on this PB, well done sir!
Level changes will be used, just like in the original Rooms
If i was connecting to your "space room", i would create a level change immediately after the door behind you from the previous room closed.
there would be no previous room there to "see" from your space station, except of course the connecting hallway(which would be a docking ring or something).
If then connecting hallway would be visible from your station, THEN yes you could use aeraportals or possibly a thick skybrush to hide it
If i was connecting to your "space room", i would create a level change immediately after the door behind you from the previous room closed.
there would be no previous room there to "see" from your space station, except of course the connecting hallway(which would be a docking ring or something).
If then connecting hallway would be visible from your station, THEN yes you could use aeraportals or possibly a thick skybrush to hide it
Sorry about that Scotch, i'll take you off the list for now then, my bad sir!
Rufee: not sure what you mean by that, but please elaborate, but if you mean the playable area only being the actual limited area(not counting 3dsky and incaccessible areas), then you raise an interesting question
Please everyone let me know if you'd like to be added/removed(as a reminder, you may submit rooms in either HL2:EP2 or GoldSrc formats):
Rooms II Participants List
Captain Terror
Archie(TY. Would you be doing a room too as well?)
Rufee
Ghost129er?
Ant
Alberto(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
Zeeba-G
JeffMOD
Crypt
DiscoStu(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
Rufee: not sure what you mean by that, but please elaborate, but if you mean the playable area only being the actual limited area(not counting 3dsky and incaccessible areas), then you raise an interesting question
Please everyone let me know if you'd like to be added/removed(as a reminder, you may submit rooms in either HL2:EP2 or GoldSrc formats):
Rooms II Participants List
Captain Terror
Archie(TY. Would you be doing a room too as well?)
Rufee
Ghost129er?
Ant
Alberto(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
Zeeba-G
JeffMOD
Crypt
DiscoStu(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
Ok, well there is more interest for this than i thought! =P
Rooms II Preliminary Participants List
Captain Terror
Archie(TY. Would you be doing a room too as well?)
Rufee
Ghost129er?
Ant
Alberto(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
Zeeba-G
JeffMOD
Crypt
DiscoStu(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
Scotch(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
If you participated in the original Rooms Source, feel free to submit those maps again for Rooms II, so long as they follow any new rules we may come up for this coop.
Speaking of rules/restrictions, do you guys want to leave it open as before--make your room anything you want--, OR, possibly add some restrictions this time:
Preliminary Rules
1. Build a room, anything you want. The only requirement of the room is that it has an entrance and an exit. (to be able to connect to the next/previous room)
2. Maps should be Half-Life2: Episode 2 or Vanilla GoldSrc(goldsource maps will be converted to HL2:EP2).
3. I'll volunteer again to build the connecting hallways, unless anyone has an objection. (i really enjoyed it last time, but would be open to ideas to do it differently, should you-all be interested, i.e., the each member has build the hallway ahead that links to the next room)
4. Contest is done when we stop receiving new rooms , say a 1-month period of no submissions, means it's time to end the coop and link them up.
5. Top-three rooms win a trophy and a yet-to-be-determined pile of Cash and/or Steam Bucks, winners chosen by community vote. (entrants are allowed to donate to the prize kitty and can still win)
Current Prize Kitty
Rooms II Preliminary Participants List
Captain Terror
Archie(TY. Would you be doing a room too as well?)
Rufee
Ghost129er?
Ant
Alberto(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
Zeeba-G
JeffMOD
Crypt
DiscoStu(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
Scotch(Perhaps submit a GoldSrc entry?)
If you participated in the original Rooms Source, feel free to submit those maps again for Rooms II, so long as they follow any new rules we may come up for this coop.
Speaking of rules/restrictions, do you guys want to leave it open as before--make your room anything you want--, OR, possibly add some restrictions this time:
- Have a mandatory gameplay/puzzle-solving aspect to each room?
- Work under a predifined or maximum-room-size restriction?
- Use a predefined theme or storyline?
- Use a common texture set(think Compo 31 - map from a texture pack)?
- Arrange maps in the end by quality, so the last map you play is the best?
- A different game engine than EP2?
- ???
Preliminary Rules
1. Build a room, anything you want. The only requirement of the room is that it has an entrance and an exit. (to be able to connect to the next/previous room)
2. Maps should be Half-Life2: Episode 2 or Vanilla GoldSrc(goldsource maps will be converted to HL2:EP2).
3. I'll volunteer again to build the connecting hallways, unless anyone has an objection. (i really enjoyed it last time, but would be open to ideas to do it differently, should you-all be interested, i.e., the each member has build the hallway ahead that links to the next room)
4. Contest is done when we stop receiving new rooms , say a 1-month period of no submissions, means it's time to end the coop and link them up.
5. Top-three rooms win a trophy and a yet-to-be-determined pile of Cash and/or Steam Bucks, winners chosen by community vote. (entrants are allowed to donate to the prize kitty and can still win)
Current Prize Kitty
- $20 in steam games(Thanks to Archie!)
It's been a long time since i used any uninstaller, but maybe try CCleaner?
Is your install Steam or WON?
I'm pretty sure any WON installation you did will not effect the Steam version, so don't worry too much about completely uninstalling it if this is the case. (deleting the sierra/whatever directories should be enough afaik)
In the case of a Steam installation, try what Archie said, or, if it still doesn't work, click the "delete local content" or whatever button, and reinstall from scratch.
I personally still have a WON HL installation and run it portable, free of any registry settings or whatnot... i can play CS if i load it up in custom game settings;)
Is your install Steam or WON?
I'm pretty sure any WON installation you did will not effect the Steam version, so don't worry too much about completely uninstalling it if this is the case. (deleting the sierra/whatever directories should be enough afaik)
In the case of a Steam installation, try what Archie said, or, if it still doesn't work, click the "delete local content" or whatever button, and reinstall from scratch.
I personally still have a WON HL installation and run it portable, free of any registry settings or whatnot... i can play CS if i load it up in custom game settings;)
Yes, and it's the most advanced HL2 engine version, plus, probably offers the most flexibility entity wise (i'm only guessing here).
Are you maybe saying this might be better for the Portal game/engine?(which i think is the best version of the source engine? (maybe now surpassed by csgo?)
I don't know enough about these type of things
Are you maybe saying this might be better for the Portal game/engine?(which i think is the best version of the source engine? (maybe now surpassed by csgo?)
I don't know enough about these type of things
Edited
^ Read above Berto, if you like, you can submit goldsource entries, and i will convert it to HL2:E2. (if you wanted)
^ Read above Berto, if you like, you can submit goldsource entries, and i will convert it to HL2:E2. (if you wanted)
Rufee
It's whatever we want to make it, everything is decided by twhl community voting, as well the top-3 winners (or we could vote to allow the mods to pick the winners)
I would like to think of this a COOP FIRST, with aspects of a compo, i.e. the prize places
Do you think it would be easier to make your room with a size restriction, or harder?
Current Prize Kitty
$20 in steam games(Thanks to Archie) Thanks Archieman, that's awesome!
Additional Note
If you want to participate, but for whatever reason don't map for Source, I'd be willing to help you convert your Goldsource maps to HL2: Episode II. Brushwork and brush-based entities will translate flawlessly with a minimum of effort, and i will use whatever equivalent source models i can find to replace your HL ones...
It's whatever we want to make it, everything is decided by twhl community voting, as well the top-3 winners (or we could vote to allow the mods to pick the winners)
I would like to think of this a COOP FIRST, with aspects of a compo, i.e. the prize places
Do you think it would be easier to make your room with a size restriction, or harder?
Current Prize Kitty
$20 in steam games(Thanks to Archie) Thanks Archieman, that's awesome!
Additional Note
If you want to participate, but for whatever reason don't map for Source, I'd be willing to help you convert your Goldsource maps to HL2: Episode II. Brushwork and brush-based entities will translate flawlessly with a minimum of effort, and i will use whatever equivalent source models i can find to replace your HL ones...
Since Rooms Source failed--despite all the love and CPR we could give it--, I've still always been wanting to to get it going again.
For those who don't know, the original premise of Rooms, was a TWHL COOP project to join unrealted rooms into one mod/mappack.
What say we try for a brand-new Rooms:S - Rooms II?
Rooms II Rules-In-Progress
1. Build a room with whatever theme you want. The only requirement of the room is that it has an entrance and an exit, and playable area does not exceed 2048x2048x2048 units.
2. Submissions should be Half-Life2: Episode 2 or GoldSrc formats--GS entries will be converted to HL2:EP2--, and you may use assets from any other games you like.
3. I'll volunteer again to build all the connecting hallways, BUT if an author so chooses, HE may build the hallway leading to the room in front of him.
4. Rooms II is finished when we stop receiving new entries, say a 1-month period of no submissions, means it's time to end the coop, and link them up for release.
5. Top-three rooms win a trophy and a yet-to-be-determined pile of Cash and/or Steam Bucks, winners chosen by community vote. Rooms II Runner's up will receive a participation medal. Contributors to the prize kitty ARE eligible to win a prize place!
^ If you'd like to see any of the above changed, AND/OR, nominate a new rule/restriction, please speak up! =P
Current Prize Kitty
Captain Terror
Archie
Rufee
AJ
Zeeba-G
JeffMOD
Crypt19
Strideh
Instant Mix
TJB
Doodle
Tetsu0 (tentative)
Silvertongue
Note to anyone new or just staring Source level design: This is the perfect time to get started by entering the coop, as you are going to learn A LOT about the the Source engine just by participating!
Notes on GS-to-EP2 conversion for potential GS authors
For those who don't know, the original premise of Rooms, was a TWHL COOP project to join unrealted rooms into one mod/mappack.
What say we try for a brand-new Rooms:S - Rooms II?
Rooms II Rules-In-Progress
1. Build a room with whatever theme you want. The only requirement of the room is that it has an entrance and an exit, and playable area does not exceed 2048x2048x2048 units.
2. Submissions should be Half-Life2: Episode 2 or GoldSrc formats--GS entries will be converted to HL2:EP2--, and you may use assets from any other games you like.
3. I'll volunteer again to build all the connecting hallways, BUT if an author so chooses, HE may build the hallway leading to the room in front of him.
4. Rooms II is finished when we stop receiving new entries, say a 1-month period of no submissions, means it's time to end the coop, and link them up for release.
5. Top-three rooms win a trophy and a yet-to-be-determined pile of Cash and/or Steam Bucks, winners chosen by community vote. Rooms II Runner's up will receive a participation medal. Contributors to the prize kitty ARE eligible to win a prize place!
^ If you'd like to see any of the above changed, AND/OR, nominate a new rule/restriction, please speak up! =P
Current Prize Kitty
- $20 in Steam games(Thanks to Archie!)
- Misc. Steam games(Thanks to AJ!)
- Contagion Steam key(Thanks to Strider!)
- Nuclear Dawn Steam key(Thanks to Strider!)
- 1 Packet of Gum(Thanks to TJB!) =P
- Frozen Synapse Steam key(Thanks to Silvertongue!)
- X-COM: Enemy Unknown Steam key(Thanks to Silvertongue!)
Captain Terror
Archie
Rufee
AJ
Zeeba-G
JeffMOD
Crypt19
Strideh
Instant Mix
TJB
Doodle
Tetsu0 (tentative)
Silvertongue
Note to anyone new or just staring Source level design: This is the perfect time to get started by entering the coop, as you are going to learn A LOT about the the Source engine just by participating!
Notes on GS-to-EP2 conversion for potential GS authors
- Your brushwork would be directly converted, with no loss or broken brushes.
- Textures and alignment: i would rip wadincluded textures wholesale from your bsp or wad, convert them, and use Replace for a seamless transition.
- Brush-based entities will translate almost 100%
- Point-based Entity work: Inputs/Outputs would be written by me, per your specifications/requests, and the existing entities in your map.
- Displacements: I would be willing to make them as per your specifications and reference pics
- 3dsky: you could actually build this yourself in hammer 3.x, and i would simiply scale and implement it in the EP2 map.
- Testing the map: This brings the interesting/obvious question. All i can think of atm would be Crafty Object Viewer by Nem, which would allow you view the map in a primitive way. The only other way i can think of is screenies..
HODOR! :P=P=P=P=P=P=P=P=P=P
^ KING OF JOKES
That looks really cool Rim, i hope the tornado didn't damage your pretty house! i want to skinny dip in your pond/quarry during the next storm =P
Will do sir! =P
I want to get into minecraft, but kitty is scart!
Beautiful work Zeebs!
Guilty!
Yup i do. If you want me to play with it, please include all relevant info and material you can think of, including your preferred compile parameters.
Are you running -chart paramater? If yes, are you close to the limits on anything?
The main thing you can try to sort this yourself, is to simplify the work for VIS by changing anything besides cardinal shapes to func_wall/ func_illusionary/ func_detail(VHLT), but i'm sure you already know that
Btw, i thought cz maps worked natively in cs 1.6, but apparently not eh? You should REALLY port your maps to CSGO when you get the time! =P
Are you running -chart paramater? If yes, are you close to the limits on anything?
The main thing you can try to sort this yourself, is to simplify the work for VIS by changing anything besides cardinal shapes to func_wall/ func_illusionary/ func_detail(VHLT), but i'm sure you already know that
Btw, i thought cz maps worked natively in cs 1.6, but apparently not eh? You should REALLY port your maps to CSGO when you get the time! =P
I have a OLD P4 laptop with XP and a webcam, that I use for a ad-hoc security system, but no use for it otherwise...
Changing the compiler frontend won't make it compile any faster afaik, though it will make it easier to select and tweak your compile options.
What tools are u using? Definitely give the latest VHLT and try to utilize it's func_details, if you aren't already.
If u like, PM me a link to the rmf, and I can give it a go on my rig.
What tools are u using? Definitely give the latest VHLT and try to utilize it's func_details, if you aren't already.
If u like, PM me a link to the rmf, and I can give it a go on my rig.
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To me, Alpha means "highly experimental and buggy", whereas Beta means everything should be working with minor issues.
Would anyone be interested in a Sledge-only contest or minicompo, or should we wait until it's further along?
To me, Alpha means "highly experimental and buggy", whereas Beta means everything should be working with minor issues.
Would anyone be interested in a Sledge-only contest or minicompo, or should we wait until it's further along?
PB, you have an estimate when Sledge will be out of alpha? Maybe when it is we could have a Sledge-only mapping contest? (probably would have to be on the honor system, or is there a way you could verify what editor was used?)
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I think Archie's intimating that source support is around the corner, so i'm waiting patiently Is it true you fixed or simply don't have the annoying vertex problem with Sledge VMF?
I think Archie's intimating that source support is around the corner, so i'm waiting patiently
Is it true you fixed or simply don't have the annoying vertex problem with Sledge VMF?<holds breath>
YES it is annoying, but the tradeoff is you're aloud 10-times flexibility of objects you can create and brush budget using Hammer 4.
If you can't get used to it, your choices right now are to return to GS(not recommended), or learn to model. I HOPE this issue is addressed with Source 2 Hammer, but i'm not gonna hold my breath
If you can't get used to it, your choices right now are to return to GS(not recommended), or learn to model. I HOPE this issue is addressed with Source 2 Hammer, but i'm not gonna hold my breath
Yeah Ctrl+B itself is pretty pointless, at least i haven't found a use for it yet.. If you made some magical tool, that put every vertex of an object on the grid, and kept it close to it's original proportions, that would be legendary =P
If i have one vertex that needs to be particularly aligned, i simply VM the whole object or group, and force that one point to the grid, but most of the time that doesn't help much.
I've found lately working with crazy off-grid stuff, to instead hold down ALT key to temporarily disable the grid, and just try to get all the points i need to line up as close as possible.. (this method would not probably not work with GS too well, definitely not without HLFix)
If i have one vertex that needs to be particularly aligned, i simply VM the whole object or group, and force that one point to the grid, but most of the time that doesn't help much.
I've found lately working with crazy off-grid stuff, to instead hold down ALT key to temporarily disable the grid, and just try to get all the points i need to line up as close as possible.. (this method would not probably not work with GS too well, definitely not without HLFix)
Herrow and 'velcome back! =P
Hmmm, you have a screen cap? You shouldn't have any trouble with normal, run-of-the-mill brushes staying on the grid, although, sometimes even normal cubes get messed up, but this is pretty rare.
If a brush is "acting strangely" at all, e.g., you try clipping it and it refuses to split into even halves, scrap the brush and start over!
Another general tip: If anything starts acting fucky, like normal tools and hotkeys stop working or act strangely, immediately save your work and restart hammer
If a brush is "acting strangely" at all, e.g., you try clipping it and it refuses to split into even halves, scrap the brush and start over!
Another general tip: If anything starts acting fucky, like normal tools and hotkeys stop working or act strangely, immediately save your work and restart hammer