Development News Created 18 years ago2005-07-16 01:48:51 UTC by Seventh-Monkey Seventh-Monkey

Created 18 years ago2005-07-16 01:48:51 UTC by Seventh-Monkey Seventh-Monkey

Posted 18 years ago2005-07-18 13:04:56 UTC Post #121838
What for?

I'm going to print the mod name in the map description if that's what you mean (the green "S" for Spirit isn't entirely self-explanatory) and I'm going to add an extra field for where people've specified "Other" as the mod icon.
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-18 14:29:40 UTC Post #121862
I like the tutorial award :glad:
  • Allow someone to close or delete their own thread.
  • A rating system where you can only vote once (Only on Complete maps)
Those are two undrastic (not a word) measures, but I have a small suggestion that will probably get throw down right away:

Color code each page. The main page could stay orange, but for example, special pages like Map Vault could be blue instead of orange.

I understand that this take a long time, but it would help the quality of TWHL be more eye pretty, attracting new members and such.

Also, after looking at the HL1 questions, I see that a lot of the threads are just explaining how to do something.

Why not have another Forum called "Mapper Tips" pr something where anyone can post their tips! We cannot have a ton of tutorials on easy simple things, so a tips place would be great!
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-18 14:44:32 UTC Post #121871
And what about only being able to rate unfinished maps once!(you forgot them) :P
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-18 15:01:05 UTC Post #121876
You will only be able to vote for any map once in the 'Vault/user, and must leave a comment with a vote. I'll make sure people don't make stupid 'asasast'-style comments just to spam votes.

Colour coding... change what?

I'd also thought of a forum/section called "Mapper Tips" myself a few days ago :). I mean, there doesn't even seem to be anywhere where newbies are told to use ZHLT, just links to it!
I like the tutorial award
I thought, and Ant and Rabid agreed, that people deserved at least as much recognition for writing a good tutorial as for being helpful in the forums or MV.
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-18 15:49:55 UTC Post #121887
I don't think that's a good idea. Can think of many reasons why.
RabidMonkey RabidMonkeymapmapmapfapmap
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-18 16:48:26 UTC Post #121904
What, Rabid?
"There won't be an edit button in TWHL. Period."
Actually, I think I'll make it so you can edit a post if it has no replies after it. I can't see any problems that way. Previewing will be sorted too, though.
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-18 17:04:33 UTC Post #121905
well, I'm glad to see my points have already been taken into consideration ;)

I only wrote the color coding thing because when I thought about what good changes the site could have, I noticed the same sickly orange color I've been looking at for ages...

although, it does remind me of Gordon's suit... wow... the game would be so different if he had like a green suit...
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 01:24:56 UTC Post #121932
I like the orange. I have considered implementing something I proposed to atom a long time ago, user selection of colour themes. Wouldn't be very hard, just loading different sets of images and a different CSS page.
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 01:34:41 UTC Post #121936
About your - "Mapper Tips" idea Seventh. tbh newbies post in the help forums and there people explain to get ZHLT etc...
What I think would be more interesting is if each member could have their own little "map tips" sort of like the journal, this way the newbie to twhl can get direct tips from the person he looks up to. Just an idea, have no idea how it would work but maybe these could be advanced tips or long answers to a particular forum thread. Also if that thread was deleted due to spam or w/e then the newbie can ask the replier to post in his "map tips". :aghast:
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 01:44:49 UTC Post #121937
Yeah, but should we really have to re-tell everyone who comes through about ZHLT? If we weren't bothered about stuff like that, we wouldn't have any tutorials.

To-do list so far:

[quote]General
New smilies in journals;
More special login messages;
PMs;
Seperate HL/Source tutorials;
News archives;
Proper tutorial proposal system linked to special forum;
Journal limiting (forbidding journal posts in quick succession).

Forums
Allow editing of most recent post to topic if yours;
Icon for closed threads;
Previewing;
Stickies;

'Vault
Only allow votes with comment, from logged-in users;
One vote/user;
No voting for own maps;
No rating for Problem or Example maps;
Require screenshot and description for "completed";
"Mod" text field in Map Info (for clarity and modicon "Other").

Modding
Journal modding;
MV comment modding (by MV permissions, !forum ~).
[/quote]
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 01:59:15 UTC Post #121939
I vote for Doodle to change back to his original avatar :heart:

How are people's names changing?!
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 02:08:44 UTC Post #121942
THINK BEFORE YOU POST AND YOU WON'T NEED TO DOUBLE-POST!

Do you mean, my shortening of m0p, Ant, and Rabid's names to their modern selves? Simple database manipulation, why? I'm not making a habit of it, but they've all been here a long time and their forum names were a bit long. This way, all the forum mods fit on one line on the forum listing page, too :).
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 02:12:16 UTC Post #121944
You should should shorten yours just to Seventh then, since thats what we all refer to you as ;)
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 02:15:46 UTC Post #121947
Nah, I like my name as it is. I think. Yeah, yeah, I'll keep it for now.

Comments on the 'to-do' list?
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 03:19:52 UTC Post #121953
I did think before I posted, I just happened to notice the shoter named after I posted that first one. Dont hate me cause I'm a white homeboy.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 04:38:27 UTC Post #121958
You remember my original avatar? :nuts:
Maybe I shall change back...next year! muhahahaha :biggrin:
todo list is awesome :D looking forward to a lot of that.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 05:27:55 UTC Post #121967
Just fix the voting system and i'm happy.
Habboi HabboiSticky White Love Glue
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 06:40:37 UTC Post #121977
I did think before I posted
Sorry, getting annoyed with the endless double-postings within ten seconds of each other for no apparent reason.
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 08:21:39 UTC Post #121997
Why wont we have icons near the valut section's name that means that there is a new map in that section! Just like in the forums! :nuts:
And could you add awards to completed/example/unfinished! :o So if the map is realy good/usefull(recived an award) an icon will show up near it's name and people will now know thats it's good! :) And why can't people vote on example maps? :
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 09:14:14 UTC Post #122011
Another thing we need is a message for 1337 logins. >.<
Luke LukeLuke
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 09:17:20 UTC Post #122014
Are there any messages for 1000,1500,2000,2500 and 3000? :|
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 10:07:52 UTC Post #122029
Thats a fine to-do list,

But what about the "Delete or close your own thread" idea?
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 10:10:57 UTC Post #122031
delete and close is too mod'ish
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 10:12:54 UTC Post #122034
What brought me to come up with this idea was creating a thread in the HL1 mapping questions, only to figure it out minutes later. Instead of wasting the moderators time by asking the thread to be deleted, it would help if all I had to do was delete it myself.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 13:30:31 UTC Post #122070
I appreciate the thought, but it really isn't any bother :).

Ant and Rabid are both against the idea, anyway. Thanks for the input, though.

You'll notice the new thread state indicators. Sorry to confuse you; here's a nice key:
User posted image
- Normal thread;
User posted image
- Thread with new posts;
User posted image
- Locked thread.
User posted image
- Sticky thread;
User posted image
- Sticky with new posts;
User posted image
- Locked sticky.
They'll all be made nicer shortly. They're just placeholders, really.
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 13:38:40 UTC Post #122077
The orange looks the same :o just slightly tinted :zonked:

Clever though :)

Ah if you ask me Rabid and Ant are just power crazy, they just started an want to be the only ones with power HA!
Habboi HabboiSticky White Love Glue
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 13:40:09 UTC Post #122079
The last three images are, at present, all the same. Any indications otherwise are just an optical illusion :). They will be different, though.
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 13:41:32 UTC Post #122080
Ooh, cute little topic indicators :)
m0p m0pIllogical.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 13:47:54 UTC Post #122081
The * was a bit simplistic.
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 13:59:04 UTC Post #122084
nice dots 7th :D
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 14:00:06 UTC Post #122085
They'll be better. The locked and stickied things look too similar for my liking at the moment.

Added a "propose tutorial" page. Look under the Tutorials heading on the nav. bar.
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 15:14:37 UTC Post #122101
Which means they're copyrighted, Trapt. HLFallout owns them. If someone creates something similar, we could use them.
is that ok? i coloured them in twhl style :x maybe make them smaller?
User posted image
User posted image
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 15:32:17 UTC Post #122102
NO! DON'T CHANGE THE RED STARS!
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 16:12:20 UTC Post #122112
Too late.
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 16:25:02 UTC Post #122119
Green?! Thats ugly.
Suggestion, change the green to red, take out the gray dot all together, and change the locked dot to a little box that says locked or something.
Green... gah.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 16:26:11 UTC Post #122120
i can make little gifs if you want they'll look much better than dots :cool:
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 16:26:12 UTC Post #122121
Its fine how it is now, a real improvement. And relaxing for the eye.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 16:58:13 UTC Post #122126
Great these new indicators! Could you do the same with the map vault? Gray- normal green- new orange-a mod :)
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 16:58:56 UTC Post #122127
Remove the orange just thought about it and it's a bad idea! :|
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 17:01:11 UTC Post #122130
Interesting idea, the new map indicator. I may do something.

Thanks, pepper :).

SpaG, don't worry, I can do it myself ;).

WCD: that would be inconsistent.
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 17:04:06 UTC Post #122131
What do you mean that would be inconsistant? Green is inconsistant.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 18:38:37 UTC Post #122139
A new maps box on the front page would be nice.
Could replace the Member Sites box thats not really useful/interesting anyway.
ChickenFist ChickenFist<Witty Title>
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 19:09:21 UTC Post #122145
I dont know if anyone has already mentioned this: In the map vault, we can currently sort the maps by...

Name | Date | Modified Date | Rating

Is there any way to be able to sort them by game/mod ? I think it's a good idea that would please people who ask for a separate source map vault. Instead, you could filter and check all the HLDM, HL2DM maps etc
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 19:24:25 UTC Post #122146
but i like doing gordon smileys :(
User posted image
anotherone :nervous:
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 19:45:39 UTC Post #122147
Good to see that you are making the forums more organized :D

You are going to replace the colors with something more inovative right?

Im also suprised that something I said (tips / minituts) is actually being implemented :o

Keep up the good work dude! :biggrin:
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 19:58:26 UTC Post #122148
Sorry to give yet another suggestion, but if you weren't already planning to, you should add a color key for what all the colors mean, I doubt everyone who reads the forums reads this topic just to see what the colors mean.

Wow, this is a massive flood os requests, I'm glad I don't have control over TWHL.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 20:09:32 UTC Post #122150
Seventh, are you willing to do a little bit of PHP for me?
Luke LukeLuke
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-19 20:20:56 UTC Post #122151
User posted image
User posted image
Just couldn't resist :zonked:
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-20 01:25:30 UTC Post #122180
What do you mean that would be inconsistant? Green is inconsistant.
I meant not having dots next to some. It'd make the alignment as messy as it used to be.

There will definitely be a key on the forum list page.

Kasperg: easy, and will be done, particularly now that there's a decent selection of mods.

WCD: they're all pretty easy ;).
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-20 02:49:03 UTC Post #122195
New dots look great.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
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