modelling competition Created 19 years ago2005-07-23 18:14:09 UTC by 38_98

*points to topic title*i think we should hold a modelling competition. I see people are starting to get into it. So i had an idea that maybe this site could host a model competition while the maps were being tested. And that each entry was testing by look at its construction in model viewer and seeing how it works in gameplay...Its just an idea though and i have a rough idea what the response would be...

It's a good idea, but I thought that this was a strictly mapping site, I mean, I can't model for crap, but then again, I could be wrong, after all, I don't run this site. I just think that TWHL is more about mapping than modeling.

Not a lot of people have knowledge of modelling here.

Not a lot of people have knowledge of modelling here.

hmmm...true...Ah well. Nevermind about it then

Good to see that you thought it out before you posted this topic, isn't it.

Lets do it in speed modeling then, its a modeling version of speed painting, you make a model in 1-2 hours, no longer.

Or a combination!! speedpaint your ref pics, you can make a real painting or open up your favorite paint program.

Then make a model of it!

Though here are a few points:

poly limit = do we want one?
optimizing = should we? Depending on used technique?
game = hl1 or hl2? Or a universal file type?(.max .obj .mdl(1,2,3,4))
program =G-max? Milkshape? anim8or? etc.(wiht one program you model faster then others.)

Just a few points we should take into consideration, also, should we texture the model? How few modelers excist, even fewer texture artist are here. I for once only know so much of texturing that it looks ok.

I can provide tutorials on the modeling part for G-max and Milkshape, that shouldnt be the problem.

Keep it in the forum for now, and we can deal with it if lots of people do it or it's a topic of high interest.

I'd certainly like to practice my low-poly object modelling in some speed modelling stuff =]

Agreed, If you need some practice with speed painting check Psi's forum on the sword one, i still have to enter though, my last mech dindt really turn out well.

speed modelling? Fancy

I agree with rabid, we should wait and see if the majority of people would like to do this

I dunno where to start...I have no modelling program and I have 0 knowledge...

Perhaos this could be a way of teaching.

I already got a milkshape tutorial up, G-max tut is about to go up any day now.

Milkshape is payware and G-max is freeware. And offcourse there are a dozen other programs out there you can use, just a small grab:

Anim8tor : http://www.anim8or.com/
Blender3d : http://www.blender3d.org/cms/Home.2.0.html
Wings3d : http://www.wings3d.com/

There all fine programs, blender is probably the best for game modeling.

really nice idea

ahh blender...My frined is quite good with that program. Ive seen how ti works and it probably would be the best for modlling, seeing its free and very good. Thanks SpaG for the compliment. Maybe this could be a way of teaching

I'm getting into Maya soon-ish, wish me luck.

Still havent got around to test/buy Maya, probably somewhere in the distant future il throw myself at it, for now il just abuse G-max up to i got 3dsm 6 or 7.

google and download it, i'm sure there's plenty of cracks and keygens for Maya

you too

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I'm getting into Maya soon-ish, wish me luck.

good luck

@pepper: I know Unreal Tournament 2k4 comes with the PLE edition, which should also be free to use for non-commercial applications and such (and download from their site even.), and I think only a couple features are disabled. Good for a test run, aye?

aye, same as with XSI i assume?

though now im just saving a couple of bucks for 3d studio max, that won my heart .

you guys actually buy everything laughs out loud

And why shouldnt i? Give me one good reason.

Learning how to model has been on my todo list for a long time...

I think it's a good idea too.

It's on my todo list too but I never get to it! :

Pep: Which would you say is the easiest software to make static models?

There is another program to make models!?! I thought milkshape was the only one!

All depends on knowdledge and experience of modeling and the program, milkshape is a easy to use program with plenty tutorials around the web, but programs like XSI and G-max have heaps of usefull features that can speed up the modeling if used right.

milkshape isnt the only one. There are tons, some free, some industrial grade. You could find them everywhere if you searched on google. Heh, my idea wasnt as bad as i thought

Hey Elon check this out.

73 Modeling links!

Pepper: You ever try Pictomod3D--create models instantly from 2d pics!?

It looks easy and fast, which fits well with my acute lack of motivation!

Wont work very well, you can see some serious errors on the models. And offcourse it wont look how you want it to look.

Did you saw the soldier model on the site? Extremely ugly and out of proportions.

But, im going to pack the car for vacation, il be back next week. up to that time deciced for yourself what program you like.

poly limit = do we want one?
optimizing = should we? Depending on used technique?
game = hl1 or hl2? Or a universal file type?(.max .obj .mdl(1,2,3,4))
program =G-max? Milkshape? anim8or? etc.(wiht one program you model faster then others.)

i was just wondering about these. Maybe we should sort it out soon so that if the time comes to do this we dont have to waste a week or so deciding what to have?

Poly Limit: 1
Program: M3rc's Ass Modeling Program

Program: M3rc's Ass Modeling Program

i guess youll also need M3rc's Dick Animation Program

Mmmmm...is there any program thats you build the stuff just like in hammer(only models insted of levels)?

No, as far as i know there is no modelling program that builds models like that. If your doing modelling you'll just have to learn off the tutorials on the internet and (if supplied) the help files that come with it.

Yeah I'll just read the 67th valvatuide's tutorials when I'll start modeling!

I want to model too But that's too hard for me. Somehow i don't get it.

As Habboi said, it could be a way of learning.

We all know Pepper would win.. he's been modelling for quite some time now.

what if he was too judge and therefore not be able to enter?

I recently decided to start modeling, and I just bought Milkshape 3D, which i heard was the best tool for HL modeling. Only $25 bucks!

I just downloaded Gmax and Milkshape--look pretty similar except Gmax is 3 times as big!

Is gmax a freeware?? :

Yup. It's the freeware version of 3DS.

Yay!! It can do every thing that milkshape can,right?

I'll have to start modeling and coding soon, because my mod needs new models and new code..

G-max got more better and more tools for modeling low-poly then milkshape, one of the more inportant one for me is TIR viewport support. Still trying to get it work in G-max though .

But, in exporting it sucks, they wanted the companies to pay money for a exporter, only a dozen did, valve didnt.

So that is why you export to a .md3 format(download tempest gamepack(quake3)) and import it in milkshape.

Also G-max has a Uvmap function, thus saving work in lithunwrap.

The only con of G-max is that is has a extremely high learning curve compared to programs like milkshape 3d and Valve hammer editor. Took me roughly 12 hours to figure out everything and get myself going.

Some milkshape tutorials, with these i learned it:

http://www.psionic.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tutorials/lowpoly/mbasics.html
http://www.psionic.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tutorials/lowpoly/tmgun.html
http://www.psionic.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tutorials/lowpoly/mshouse.html

http://www.gamedesign.net/node/534

G-max:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~dewitnel/peppersplanet/1050.html(not finishd yet)

Follow them in the given order and im sure you got the basic for modeling, especialy when you mapped before.

Edit:

Il set-up a modeling compo, just for a starter we will keep it simple, il put the guidlines and rules in a other with all the required info for modeling and how to submit your entry.