The new 'right to die' bill, now i'm not proposing euthanasia here in the same way you can end your life in Sweden because you are old, this is bringing about the inevitable end of pallative care in the death of a patient, before it happens. This done to help the patient to not suffer whatever throes that will eventually cause their death, characterised of course by the sad passing of Diane Petty who lost her human rights case to die before her body suffocated her in what can only be imagined as an terrible suffering.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4757063.stm
Doctors in the UK do not support the bill, would you allow someone in Diane Petty's case to die, or as suicide is a sin and a crime are you held by your religious or legal and moral beliefs?
and before Orpheus says anything, no I havent been euthanised personally, but please refrain from debating on debating or i'll beat you up
Another simple debate
Created 18 years ago2006-05-10 07:22:53 UTC by
Jobabob
Created 18 years ago2006-05-10 07:22:53 UTC by
Jobabob
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 07:22:53 UTC
Post #179278
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 07:38:06 UTC
Post #179279
please refrain from debating on debating or i'll beat you upFunneh !
In the case of Diane Petty I believe she had the right to end her life, it was bad knowing that she suffered right to the end, that to me was sad.
So what was the point of making her suffer anymore than she needed to, once again religion and politics is wrong to even get involved, did she realy have to suffer to get to meet God, if I was made to suffer like that I may as well go to Hell...
Oh and please dont tell me that Jesus suffered for us, Diane was a "Real" person.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 07:50:13 UTC
Post #179280
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 07:58:19 UTC
Post #179281
Orpheus (prop N) Or-fee-uss: One for whom sarcasm has no meaning.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 08:02:16 UTC
Post #179282
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 08:10:00 UTC
Post #179283
Oh yes, I must maintain a serious face when talking about a sensitive subject on a mapping forum. I'm a pretty fascecious guy on these forums, get over it.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 08:15:12 UTC
Post #179285
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 08:18:08 UTC
Post #179286
what? no you're supposed to be angry and attack my character! i'm attacking your religion, defend yourself! be more like nickelplate etc
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 08:51:43 UTC
Post #179287
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 09:14:10 UTC
Post #179288
You two are getting really confusing here ya know? 
Hmm, i think we have such a similair euthenesia system here in The Netherlands, though it doesnt sound like the same as in sweden.
Hmm, i think we have such a similair euthenesia system here in The Netherlands, though it doesnt sound like the same as in sweden.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 10:16:22 UTC
Post #179295
why they don?t use their turn signals when changing lanes.I carry a hammer in my car and if I see a person turning without using the signals I ask them in a calm way if I could smash their turn signals out as they seem like a waste and of no use to them on the car.
Back to the topic: I had to watch my brother waste away till he died, he was in constant pain, the pain killers stop working after a while, it deprived him of his dignity. :
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 10:20:39 UTC
Post #179298
Emulate the Scandanavians. They're best at everything civilised.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 11:07:26 UTC
Post #179306
the swedes are really brilliant at suicide, plus their euthanasia program is a little too progressive for my liking
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 11:52:28 UTC
Post #179311
I am pro euthanasia. In some cases anyway.
I believe you should have the right to end your life if these 3 points are fufilled:
1)You have a life threatening illness or injury.
2)You have such a small chance of recovery that it is negligable.
3)You are in pain.
I think under those circumstances it would be okey, but only after some serious thought, of about 3-4 weeks say.
I don't believe you should just be able to die because you have had a shit day though.
I think a person should have the right to die, if they really have a very poor quality of life.
I believe you should have the right to end your life if these 3 points are fufilled:
1)You have a life threatening illness or injury.
2)You have such a small chance of recovery that it is negligable.
3)You are in pain.
I think under those circumstances it would be okey, but only after some serious thought, of about 3-4 weeks say.
I don't believe you should just be able to die because you have had a shit day though.
I think a person should have the right to die, if they really have a very poor quality of life.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 12:17:09 UTC
Post #179313
G_KID posts my opinions again before I bother to :).
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 12:37:35 UTC
Post #179316
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 12:47:31 UTC
Post #179317
The patient and at least 3 other doctors.
That is what I would say.
That is what I would say.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 13:15:30 UTC
Post #179321
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 13:29:29 UTC
Post #179324
can't we just have death booths in the street, would certainly help with overpopulation and chavs
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 13:32:54 UTC
Post #179325
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 13:45:55 UTC
Post #179327
sarcasm ()
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Yea, we could just start killing off them pesky teenagers that steal lollipops in the store right away aswell.
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Yea, we could just start killing off them pesky teenagers that steal lollipops in the store right away aswell.
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Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 14:09:19 UTC
Post #179334
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 15:35:35 UTC
Post #179343
sarcasm tags are for people who dont undestand sarcasm
on a lighter note, theres a farmer in suffolk who is manufacturing gallows and exporting them to the zimbabwean government, iyou can't make this stuff up
on a lighter note, theres a farmer in suffolk who is manufacturing gallows and exporting them to the zimbabwean government, iyou can't make this stuff up
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 15:45:06 UTC
Post #179344
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 16:35:27 UTC
Post #179348
sarcasm tags are for people who dont undestand sarcasmYeah :|.
Was on the Auntie webby, eh, jobs? I read it this morning.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 16:41:22 UTC
Post #179351
WHo was that doctor? Kavorki I think.
Things like this can go either way. There are people who truely deserve the right to choose hwether they live or die, and then there are the crazy suicidal freaks.
Things like this can go either way. There are people who truely deserve the right to choose hwether they live or die, and then there are the crazy suicidal freaks.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 16:44:18 UTC
Post #179352
Uh.. everyone should be able to decide whether to die or not, when they want it. Gets more trickay if the person's unconsious and the family wants to kill 'im off. I'm rather split on the issue.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 16:47:34 UTC
Post #179354
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 16:58:39 UTC
Post #179355
There quite funny actualy, but you got to be european to understand it 
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Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 17:01:58 UTC
Post #179357
You guys are neither as funny, nor as sarcastic as you seem to think you are.We are to each other, and, er, I'm pretty sure I speak for us all when I say "who cares whether Americans get it?".
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 17:03:30 UTC
Post #179358
[/We are to each other, and, er, I'm pretty sure I speak for us all when I say "who cares whether Americans get it?"The british PM
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 17:08:54 UTC
Post #179359
Blah!
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 17:20:50 UTC
Post #179360
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 18:07:14 UTC
Post #179362
Uh.. everyone should be able to decide whether to die or not, when they want it.
especially those that just dont feel like living because society has let them down, get rid of them instead of doing something stupid like therapy and rehabilitation
especially those that just dont feel like living because society has let them down, get rid of them instead of doing something stupid like therapy and rehabilitation
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 18:18:08 UTC
Post #179365
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 18:50:29 UTC
Post #179373
You confuse me, Orpheus :D.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 19:02:24 UTC
Post #179375
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 19:19:25 UTC
Post #179379
Leaving out all my religious stuff, Dying is just inconvenient to your family in lots of ways. You sohuld not kill yourself because I can continue to get money from you while you are alive.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 19:29:27 UTC
Post #179381
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 19:41:18 UTC
Post #179382
I love women who orgasm dozens of times to your once, because that description fits most hot women.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 19:47:27 UTC
Post #179383
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 19:59:36 UTC
Post #179385
Depending on how long you go at it men can come twice.
I disagree with the 43% or whatever who think kids 10-11 should get cell phones. Are they stupid? Kids that age are way too immature to carry around something like that. I'm with the 14-16 range.
I disagree with the 43% or whatever who think kids 10-11 should get cell phones. Are they stupid? Kids that age are way too immature to carry around something like that. I'm with the 14-16 range.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 20:08:37 UTC
Post #179387
something as big as a small tree works just fine thank you very much...
and I can tell when there faking.
and I can tell when there faking.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-10 23:52:29 UTC
Post #179420
Time to consolidate the topics in this thread. Have a 10-year-old get a hot girl off with a cell phone on Vibrate mode. Then they can kill themselves... in Scandiavia.
All seriousness aside, what's up with these "female ejaculation" emails I sometimes get in the junkbox? It can't be ALL fake? I'm a bit of a sexnub obviously. Maybe you can explain. lol
All seriousness aside, what's up with these "female ejaculation" emails I sometimes get in the junkbox? It can't be ALL fake? I'm a bit of a sexnub obviously. Maybe you can explain. lol
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-11 01:52:38 UTC
Post #179426
They've got doctor-assisted suicide here in Oregon, essentially if you have a terminal disease and less than 6 months to live, you can get a prescription for an overdose of painkillers, essentially. Not sure if this has been mentioned but I don't want to read it to check, 'cause I'm lazy.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-11 13:58:44 UTC
Post #179495
I don't even really know WHY they made suicide a crime... They gonna put your body in jail?
Guy 1: My great uncle was a Kamikaze in WWII.
guy 2: Wow! I bet he's got some cool stories.
Guy1: Actaully, he doesn't really.
Guy 1: My great uncle was a Kamikaze in WWII.
guy 2: Wow! I bet he's got some cool stories.
Guy1: Actaully, he doesn't really.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-11 14:48:03 UTC
Post #179496
Now i dont think that Nick, it would make an awfull lot of mesh, not to talk about the smell of disolving bodies in state of something-you-call-when-the-body-slowly-gets-digested-by-something-else.
Was that clear enough?
Was that clear enough?
Dutch humor FTWThe british PMI was mistaken. THAT was very funny.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-11 15:31:54 UTC
Post #179506
I don't even really know WHY they made suicide a crime... They gonna put your body in jail?Its hard to criminalise assisted suicide and not suicide as well
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-11 15:48:50 UTC
Post #179508
Assisted suicide runs into trouble because the doctors could say they "assisted" the patient, suicide's illegal because a government isn't supposed to let its citizens die.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-11 22:32:30 UTC
Post #179545
I think suicide is illegal because if it was legal it'd be a loophole to get out of paying taxes.
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