Maps of Schools/ Other Public Places Created 17 years ago2007-05-02 23:03:49 UTC by Dave932932

http://www.1pstart.com/student-arrested-for-suspected-terrorist-activity/

Are maps of schools/ public places an art form or murder simulators?

BULLSHIT
bullshit
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If those people knew how many people start out mapping their highschool or their house, then they wouldnt care. Im sick of this plot to kill all with videogames bullcrap.
Even i started mapping with my own highschool as a template.
It wasnt good at that, but it was just cool to see my school in a 3-d environment. I hate ignorant f**ks like that.
/rant

What the...

My first map was my High School in Paris. A year after finishing it, my art teacher asked me to install HL in a PC in the teachers room and some teachers stopped by to see it. They thought it was hillarious and told me I had done a good job (though the map is actually not that great).

Two years ago, I made part of my university campus in HL1 for a class project in which we had to expand it. My two computer lab teachers saw it and though it was funny.

Now, imagine if I lived in Pennsylvania. The cops or FBI would be at my door asking if I had plans to murder people at Kaufmann House since my CS map is so detailed... pathetic. Ignorance is harmful.

No need for me to repeat Tetsu0's rant. I completely agree with him. That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. How would that even be CLOSE to a criminal offense? He map a map of his school. If it was any good, we'd call it "skill" or "art", and if not so good, we'd say "good try" or "needs work" ect. But the world outside our computer-life is taking this and calling it "illegal" and "dangerous".

To make matters worse in this article, it says the word Terrorist. Think, this is the U.S. over-reacting. Sure we got owned by 9/11 terrorists, but you can't try to arrest a kid and expel him from school because he wanted to play his school in an online game.

Oh yeah. I mapped my school too... It was for Cs a hostage map. But it was one of my first map... And it is a very crappy piece of shit that has leaks everywhere... And it didn't looked like my school... Then I trashed it. :D.

I understand people are messed up. But this kid is a gamer/atrist like each one of us here. Then they started to get at the Asian influence because of the recent VT shtuff.
Crap.
Just. Crap.

Hmm... I was thinking... I should call the police to Valve. They're have a evil World Domination plan.

Edit: What happened to this guy?. He is back to his house with that fucking retarded parents?.

I'm surprised that Dave posted something worth discussing, and not just him acting up. D:

Adults (especially those with power for some reason) usually have very little comprehension of what teenagers are doing when it comes to computers and the internet. I don't think they ever will. It's not exactly their fault if they want to prevent any sort of trouble, their mistake was not talking to the kid, though.

Americans.
Shakes fist.

Americans in authoritative positions.
Shakes fist.

Saddest thing ever. Some people just can't appreciate art, or understand what it is, for that matter.

I mapped a fair portion of my school once, and showed it at a project fair. Everyone there thought it was really cool, and the teachers had no problem with it. I'm thinking this isn't too wide spread a reaction, since lots of people have made maps of their schools before, and nobody has been arrested before for this.

On the subject of weapons in the kid's room, I have a hammer, a bunch of other sharp tools, a crowbar, and nunchucks in mine. Hope police don't have reason to search my house any time soon. :

P.S.

Dave started a good thread? When did pigs start flying?

Wtf?! Surely this is a breach of civil rights or something? He didn't do ANYTHING. One of the first maps I made was my high school...man did it suck balls. I've also done:

• my house
• my apartment building
• a castle
• xen

I have fantasies of making my uni campus; that would make the SWEETEST deathmatch level...

You can be sure that thanks to the PATRIOT act, while it may be a breach of civil rights, it's a necessary one! In fact, no breach of civil rights is too great to protect America from the dangers and the horrors of "TERRORISM"! Such nonsense is fed to your average Americans through the media and other outlets, however, so people will believe it without question.

Adults (especially those with power for some reason) usually have very little comprehension of what teenagers are doing when it comes to computers and the internet. I don't think they ever will. It's not exactly their fault if they want to prevent any sort of trouble, their mistake was not talking to the kid, though.

It's a generational thing, but it's not just adults with power. Plenty of parents don't get video games, computers, etcetera - They didn't grow up with video game consoles or computers in their home, rather they grew up with radio and television instead. I think it's just difficult to understand all the new technological terms and the new technology in general; I started messing around with computers at a pretty young age and gradually grew to know the terms and parts and all of that - So while it's extremely easy for me to rattle off computer terms or names, it's not knowledge that they have or grew up around, while I'm sure they could confuse me with stuff about record players and 8-tracks or something like that.

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I think the whole comparisons to VT and whatnot are quite unfounded and silly, especially since the shooter in that incident did not even play or 'train' with video games at all.

I think it's also silly that tools are all of a sudden weapons. Am I a terrorist because I sleep with a crowbar by my bed, or have a toolbox full of screwdrivers, large wrenches and a hammer or two? It's not like I'm going to go on a rampage with them, if you're trying to kill people, there are much more effective means.

(Watch me get booked under terrorism charges for saying that I know of effective means to kill people, it wouldn't suprise me one bit.)

Comments on the original article... omfg, such morons.

Christ. Americans SOME Americans are so stupid.

retard parents.

*sigh
Only in America.

44 Dave - May 2, 09:54 am

Ignorance, stupidity, and fear. I wish the people responsible for punishing this child would get out of my country. They, and people like them, are ruining it for the rest of us.

There we go.

I'm mapping the White House for al-Qaeda. And then, they will train their terrorists in CS, using the map.

OMG Sajo! I'm calling teh Police!

Heh seems like I get a lot of coincidence on this forum. I was thinking today about my school map and how people warned me it could get me into trouble. So I thought of the reasons why and I only assume it can be used as a blueprint of sorts to plan the weak points but what terorrists play CS? :S

It's funny how America's supposed to be the most free country on earth, yet you can't make a map of a public space without being arrested? LOL DEMOCRACY. Get your shit together before you end up looking like North Korea.

Get your shit together before you end up looking like North Korea.

#2

Its just asshole stupid people who think they're doing something right in the world when all they're doing is proving that the majority of Americans, are, in-fact, idiots.

This thread will soon be overrun by Americans lecturing you for trashtalking the Land of Freedom©.

Im not trashtalking if its the truth. I cant walk around my home town, a little place of only about 12,000 people without running into 3 people i didnt know before whom i just want to punch in the face because of their incredible stupidity. There's tons more in New York, Miami, Orlando, Boston, Chicago. All these towns i've been there are more idiots than normal people.

But. Im also just sick and tired of people blaming Videogames for terrorist acts.

I'm sick of you people stereotyping Americans...

This is to all who claim Americans are stupid:



I sick of your prejudice bullshit...

I don't like stereotypes either, but you must admit that there are quite a few stupid americans which tend to give the whole country a bad name/image. In addition to our politicians and our policies, that is =/

That's all im saying. You never hear about anything normal coming from america. Because everything normal is below the radar. Idiotic incidents like this give America a bad name.

Man, this is bullshit.

As a matter of fact, I am making a map of my High-School.

As a matter of fact again, I'm going to provoke the PJ (portuguese FBI):

I am making a map of my high school. I have a screwdriver in my room. It can be dangerous. My mom says i don't treat my sister right. That means I am violent and prone to murder.

Arrest me.

Lol'd for hilarious stupidity.

EDIT:

On the comment about the White House map - That'd be fucking awesome.

Heh, what can I say, i'm good at being stupid.

Not you, the article.

I'm pretty stupid too man.

BTW, i believe mapping is a form of art. Aren't the authorities boycotting the kids expression? Sounds like censorship to me...~

Hasta

Duh. Mapping schools leads to school shootings, mapping the World Trade Center led to 9/11, and mapping your mom led to her being raped.
Its so obvious!

Heh, yo momma so fat that, if i mapped her, the r_speeds would go over 40000...

AHAHAHA

Hasta

Whooo I'm a terrorist! I mapped my school, my house and even more important. We mappers are evil. I remember somebody... I think satchmo, mapped the world trade center.

Don't forget kasperg who recreated that tokyo musuem.
And most evil of all- ant and his bridge for the world recreation compo. It could possibly surve a terrorist organization in the near future.

Nerdiest Quote of the Year goes to Min3r

Heh, yo momma so fat that, if i mapped her, the r_speeds would go over 40000...

AHAHAHA

Hasta

OH SHI-

I MAPPED MY HOUSE ONCE

I BETTER BOARD THE FUCKING WINDOWS, THEY'RE COMING

Satchmo didn't map the world trade center, he simply posted the CSS map, which happens to kick serious visual ass.

TWHL shouldn't be called "The Whole Half Life" anymore, it should be called "Terrorists Who Half Life" or something like that.

Means a lot coming from you Tetsu0... You guys have to admit it was, at the very least, a bit phunee...

Hasta

"Terrorists With Half Lives".

I'm sick of you people stereotyping Americans...

It's not our fault you all look like idiots, all the time . Come on, half of half of you elected a monkey twice and continue to support him. That can't be good.

Teens who haven't lives.

*Prepares to get flamex0red..

Hasta

Just came across this online. Joystiq posted an article and a few images of the map in question.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/03/images-of-the-clements-high-students-terroristic-maps/

Stop posting, miner.

You're making comments just to get your post count up.

Thanks for your encouragement. I specially liked the constructive criticism on that. I stopped caring about post counts since i left the btuga community back in 2005... I post for fun... Hell, i don't even know where to see the post count in this board! EDIT: Found it, 26 posts...

BTW, i've seen the screenshots of the map... Architecture is a bit blocky, but he's no noob... Would like to play it...

I was just gonna say that it looked blocky. We should invite this kid to the community here. If anyone can hunt down his email.
Thanks for not using hasta as your sig, Min3r.

What if we send him something? It's a bit of a irreality, but If we got his home-address we could send him a letter with encouragement words. I believe court records are public, so we could get his home-address from them.

Feel free to flame me if you think my idea is stupid.

BTW, I'm making a promise: From now on, NO more hasta...

It's not our fault you all look like idiots, all the time . Come on, half of half of you elected a monkey twice and continue to support him. That can't be good.

Its probabaly safe to say that most of the Americans at TWHL weren't even old enough to vote in either the 200 or 2004 election, by the way.

PS: Caboose, you're going to be a murdering madman.

Bush won both elections with his 1337 voting machine h4x. Everyone knows that.