Can't do 'noclip' anymore. A Created 20 years ago2004-08-05 09:03:13 UTC by BJ BJ

Created 20 years ago2004-08-05 09:03:13 UTC by BJ BJ

Posted 20 years ago2004-08-05 09:03:13 UTC Post #48083
'noclip' isn't working any more. This seems to be following a Hammer and Steam installation in the last few days.

To avoid a Steam or Hammer launch (in case one of them is at fault), I ran "c:SierraHalfLifehl.exe -dev -console -game tfc" and still no 'noclip'. (I am running FoxBots but have for years and no problem.)

Makes map testing a little difficult. Have I done something stupid to myself here? Anyone know how I get my 'noclip' back?
Posted 20 years ago2004-08-05 09:20:38 UTC Post #48086
Bah, steam! I took the headstaggers with it on tuesday night and uninstalled it. I'm just going to wait untill theyve improved it before bothering again.

(since this is in 'stuff' rather than 'General mapping questions' I uphold my right to rant, but not answer the question. (dunno). :D
Posted 20 years ago2004-08-05 09:28:06 UTC Post #48087
What about running hl with +sv_cheats 1?
Posted 20 years ago2004-08-05 09:32:52 UTC Post #48088
an extension to the 'setting up hammre' tut dealing with steam would be great! But since most people are tryin to get to grips with it themselves that prolly a while off :(
Posted 20 years ago2004-08-05 11:30:57 UTC Post #48100
..running hl with +sv_cheats 1?
Tried that. No good. Actually, I think running the -dev command line param does that anyhow.

But I set "sv_cheats 1" and tried "noclip" and "noclip 1" with no response or results. Somewhere it says "noclip 0/1" is the real command but I never needed more than just the "noclip" to toggle.

Could it be than Hammer or Steam changed the dll that handles that? If so, that really frosts my butt.
Posted 20 years ago2004-08-05 11:34:42 UTC Post #48102
I think that man others would come here with the same problem then.
I remember in the old days you to reload the map when you changed sv_cheats ingame. That's why I put it into the command line for running hl.
Do other cheats work? God, notarget or impulse ###?
Posted 20 years ago2004-08-05 11:35:08 UTC Post #48103
Why cheat?
Luke LukeLuke
Posted 20 years ago2004-08-05 12:34:12 UTC Post #48116
Strange. I can use all cheats without touching any sv commands. I might write a setting up Hammer for Steam and a Compiling with Steam tutorial. Then people will stop asking why their bsp doesn't go into the maps folder :x
m0p m0pIllogical.
Posted 20 years ago2004-08-05 12:50:34 UTC Post #48124
I didn't think to try other cheats, hazardous. I'll try that tonight.

Not being able to use cheats without touching any sv commands is the basis for the problem I posted, mop.
Posted 20 years ago2004-08-05 13:36:46 UTC Post #48131
You need to run HL with -dev in the command line btw. Try that.
m0p m0pIllogical.
Posted 20 years ago2004-08-05 20:33:15 UTC Post #48261
Well, I've uninstalled Steam, Hammer, HL, CS, OP, TFC, BS and reinstalled just HL and TFC. No luck. Did a system restore from last week and reinstalled HL and TFC. Still no 'noclip.'

I called the technical support number for Sierra (the support center is in India) and got exactly no help. They said it was a "functionality" problem. They even suggested I send an email to support@valve.com, which is interesting because the company is valvesoftware.com. Valve.com is a manufacturer. Thanks, Sierra.

So I also sent an email to support@sierra.com. In my heart of hearts I do not expect any help there, either.

Curiously, the first time I installed HL on this machine (1 month old), the Sierra automatic update listed a bunch of download sites that didn't have the HL update. I found and downloaded HL1100 (which I thought was the latest) and was running it along with tfc5150 or whatever it was.

This last install, I installed HL, got the bogus Sierra update list of servers that didn't work, cancelled out (as I have a copy of HL1100.exe), installed TFC and got an automatic update download to HL 1.1.0.4! Curious.

However, noclip still doesn't work.

Question: is everyone running HL 1.1.0.4?
Posted 20 years ago2004-08-05 20:35:37 UTC Post #48263
Oh, by the way. None of the other "cheats" work, either (god, fly, etc.), though sv_cheats is "1" and I'm obviously in developer mode: developer=1 and sv_ commands work fine.
Posted 20 years ago2004-08-05 20:56:07 UTC Post #48267
'noclip' problem resolved, sort of.

Apparently cheats can only be used in single player games now. By starting a game in Multiplayer, cheats are disabled.

After browsing the web and getting some hints, I went to the console in the TFC menu and entered "sv_cheats 1" and "map 2fort" rather than going through the Multiplayer menu. The cheats all work fine doing that.

This will change the way I browse downloaded maps, for sure. Previously I downloaded maps and browsed them using 'noclip' by running them from the Multiplayer/Lan Game/Create Game menu. It would seem that's no longer possible.

I'll start a new thread to get info from ppl.
Posted 20 years ago2004-08-06 03:22:49 UTC Post #48343
Do you want 1.1.1.0 without queues perhaps?
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
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