TWHL and Opera
Created 19 years ago2005-02-14 13:32:44 UTC by
ministeve
Created 19 years ago2005-02-14 13:32:44 UTC by
ministeve
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-17 12:09:51 UTC
Post #91228
smeh.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-17 16:11:05 UTC
Post #91266
Opera and FireFox are both fast, but I prefer FireFox, no add on top of the window and cleaner presentation 
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-17 16:36:13 UTC
Post #91271
No ad on mine either, and Firefox's cleaner. Ah well, your loss.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-17 18:25:55 UTC
Post #91315
Ill probably go with FF. When i do get it.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-17 18:44:26 UTC
Post #91318
Fool!
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-17 18:59:39 UTC
Post #91323
You just said FF is cleaner. I want something that isnt cluttered.
What do i pick?!?!?!
explodes
Now clean me up!
What do i pick?!?!?!
explodes
Now clean me up!
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-17 22:26:44 UTC
Post #91368
You can configure Opera...and you don't exactly have to 'pay' to remove the ads as it describes...
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-17 22:27:56 UTC
Post #91372
I think ill go with Opera.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-17 23:19:17 UTC
Post #91383
Opera is ugly. FireFox is nice, expandable, minimalist, clean, open-source, cleanly coded, and pwnage.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 00:08:45 UTC
Post #91387
He puts up a stronge argunment.
I like the sound of that pwnage.
I like the sound of that pwnage.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 00:20:47 UTC
Post #91391
Oh, and it's free, no ads either. There is also a port to almost every Unix compatible CPU architecture and OS.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 00:27:09 UTC
Post #91399
Agreed, Firefox > Opera, imo.
It's more customizable and user-friendly, tbh.
It's more customizable and user-friendly, tbh.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 00:39:38 UTC
Post #91405
Opera is full of useless options, where, Firefox has useless options too, but hides em so noobs don't fuck everything up (about:config ;O)
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 00:45:05 UTC
Post #91407
about:config rox.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 01:18:04 UTC
Post #91412
Does it store passwords?
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 02:13:23 UTC
Post #91417
Yep. It has a very convenient password manager.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 02:48:42 UTC
Post #91419
So does Opera.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 03:13:09 UTC
Post #91421
Yeah, but Firefox does it better.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 03:26:20 UTC
Post #91422
This is fucking useless. Try them both out and MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND and STOP ARGUING LIKE MINDLESS FOOLS.
(Opera > FF)
(Opera > FF)
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 05:21:15 UTC
Post #91428
Have to agree with m0p here..
Out of the two browsers, Firefox is the better performer.
As kol just found out, writing for Opera compliance is a pain and require non standard code in the CSS to get it to look right.
The only thing I had to do for Firefox was add 'title's with the 'alt's although I believe recent updates have addressed that?
Out of the two browsers, Firefox is the better performer.
As kol just found out, writing for Opera compliance is a pain and require non standard code in the CSS to get it to look right.
The only thing I had to do for Firefox was add 'title's with the 'alt's although I believe recent updates have addressed that?
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 05:29:24 UTC
Post #91430
I'm guessing that Opera's coding issues are being worked out as we speak.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 08:53:05 UTC
Post #91456
I've had the exact same problem ministeve mentioned... but with FireFox, and not with the TWHL page. It's one of our local pages here.. in FF it starts stretching to the right, and down...and just never stops until you close it... but when I tried it on a diff PC with FF again, there wasn't a problem... I dunno, maybe it's the version? Or maybe I should reinstall... bleh.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 12:22:30 UTC
Post #91477
I still dont know what to get.
And im not going to download both of them to try the out.
Which browser is/has:
-adds at the top? (i dont want that)
-password storing?
-faster?
-better webpage veiwing?
-customizable?
And what do i care if its open source or not?
And im not going to download both of them to try the out.
Which browser is/has:
-adds at the top? (i dont want that)
-password storing?
-faster?
-better webpage veiwing?
-customizable?
And what do i care if its open source or not?
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 12:37:07 UTC
Post #91481
Opera is the one that has adds at the top, they are both similar in the other aspects. I downloaded Opera and Firefox the other day, and I'm staying with FF. It's less of change if you're coming from IExplorer
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 13:20:48 UTC
Post #91485
if you're coming from IE, then i'm sure theres something else you could use. i think its called avant.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 14:34:46 UTC
Post #91498
FF has a simplistic IE style interface, but cleaner, and smaller, plus the browser is 100 times better. Saying Opera > FF is stupid, since Opera has very bad standard compliance. Mozilla-based browsers are the king of compliance. Oh btw, just because a browser has Mozilla in it's agent headers, it doesn't mean that it's Mozilla-based, just compatible.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 14:47:40 UTC
Post #91501
back to the topic at hand, whatever seems to have made TWHL mess up has gone. probably something with my computer, or the server.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 15:06:20 UTC
Post #91505
I think im going with FF then.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-18 17:47:47 UTC
Post #91578
Im looking at pictures and reviews of FireFox and Opera and FF looks a heck of a lot better. Im going with that.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-19 14:27:56 UTC
Post #91838
BTW, FF isnt faster.
When using IE, this site proccesed in like 30 miliseconds. Now it proccesses in about 100. :
When using IE, this site proccesed in like 30 miliseconds. Now it proccesses in about 100. :
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-19 14:34:55 UTC
Post #91841
That's the server's processing time. PHP is a Server Side scripting language. 
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-19 14:59:59 UTC
Post #91854
Ahh, i see. It did seem faster but that said otherwise.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-19 16:59:03 UTC
Post #91859
Be leet and modify your copy of FF to display pages faster (I do hope you're on Broadband)
Type about:config in the address bar.
Look for:
network.http.pipelining
network.http.proxy.pipelining
network.http.pipelining.maxrequests
Set Pipelining to true, Proxy Pipelining to true, and set MaxRequests to something like 30.
Right-click somewhere and select New - Integer. Name it nglayout.initialpaint.delay and set a value of 0.
Type about:config in the address bar.
Look for:
network.http.pipelining
network.http.proxy.pipelining
network.http.pipelining.maxrequests
Set Pipelining to true, Proxy Pipelining to true, and set MaxRequests to something like 30.
Right-click somewhere and select New - Integer. Name it nglayout.initialpaint.delay and set a value of 0.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-19 18:43:50 UTC
Post #91891
Dude, pipelining isn't on by default?
shakes head
shakes head
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-19 18:58:22 UTC
Post #91895
It's not. For some reason they've disabled it by default as I think there's a problem when loading Flash applets, a bug on Macromedia's part and not Mozilla's.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-19 19:35:14 UTC
Post #91900
Tut tut.
I've given up proper argument and have now decided to adopt an air of lofty superiority ;).
I've given up proper argument and have now decided to adopt an air of lofty superiority ;).
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-19 20:07:39 UTC
Post #91908
Firefox is soo much faster that IE
so much more clean and streamlined too.
so much more clean and streamlined too.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-19 20:40:08 UTC
Post #91915
Yah, its nice
ANd i dont have BB. I have DSL.
ANd i dont have BB. I have DSL.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-19 20:48:28 UTC
Post #91917
DSL is broadband 
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-19 20:57:22 UTC
Post #91918
No its not.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-19 21:02:55 UTC
Post #91920
lol i have DSL and its broadbanc.
Broadband = DSL, Cable, Satellite, Lan or other high speed connection
Narrowband = Dialup and ISDN
Broadband = DSL, Cable, Satellite, Lan or other high speed connection
Narrowband = Dialup and ISDN
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-19 22:58:20 UTC
Post #91931
Thats not right. Broadband is what used to be called cable.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-20 01:13:53 UTC
Post #91944
Broadband is any connection with a bandwidth of 256k or greater
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-20 01:30:53 UTC
Post #91948
oh... and you just qualify. lol
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-20 02:10:26 UTC
Post #91957
These Stats are interesting:
Browser Stats
Especially if you are tweaking your site for 'other browsers'.
I am now sitting here wondering why I included 'Opera' CSS hacks in my layout..
Not much point really.
on the other hand, the Firefox tweaks are worth it.
Browser Stats
Especially if you are tweaking your site for 'other browsers'.
I am now sitting here wondering why I included 'Opera' CSS hacks in my layout..
Not much point really.
on the other hand, the Firefox tweaks are worth it.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-20 09:24:24 UTC
Post #91983
Andy, bear in mind that most people have set Opera to identify itself as I.E. in order to avoid persecution at Microsoft sites (it's true).
Another feature that Firefox doesn't, uh, feature ;).
Another feature that Firefox doesn't, uh, feature ;).
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-20 11:31:01 UTC
Post #92004
are you looking for a clean, good looking browser?
then go with maxathon myie2 its got wicked skins!!
then go with maxathon myie2 its got wicked skins!!
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-20 12:57:18 UTC
Post #92014
Wicked skins. Thats always a good point. 
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-20 12:58:30 UTC
Post #92016
Don't be silly, that's IE, hence the name :P.
chow: you're wrong.
Hrny: you're a teensy bit so too.
The definition of broadband is pretty arbitrary. Dual ISDN (128kbps) is considered midband, so I guess you could say that 129kbps is broadband. Narrowband is practically synonymous with dial-up.
chow: you're wrong.
Hrny: you're a teensy bit so too.
The definition of broadband is pretty arbitrary. Dual ISDN (128kbps) is considered midband, so I guess you could say that 129kbps is broadband. Narrowband is practically synonymous with dial-up.
Posted 19 years ago2005-02-20 13:40:09 UTC
Post #92033
okay. I though BB was just the old cable style stuff. Thanks for cleering that up.
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