Competition 19 Created 18 years ago2006-01-06 09:51:13 UTC by The Mad Carrot The Mad Carrot

Created 18 years ago2006-01-06 09:51:13 UTC by The Mad Carrot The Mad Carrot

Posted 18 years ago2006-02-23 14:11:38 UTC Post #164653
I didn't..
The dm_simc .rmf got pretty screwed due to the large nuber of compiles.. You know.. Brushes dissapearing, weird lighting, etc..

Anyway - good luck for those, who entered.. :)
Daubster DaubsterVault Dweller
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-23 16:44:49 UTC Post #164691
Yay It's over! Now I'm no longer stressed to get it in time. :P
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-23 19:27:32 UTC Post #164716
Didn't. Oh well, can't wait to see all the magnificent entries!

Dm_lars should be finished soon, will post wehn ready...
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-23 20:16:01 UTC Post #164720
We had a total of 11 entries, including one corrupted Zip. I've sent the submissions page I made to Muzzle. Currently, I have all the maps ready to go, so I'll just have to crank out HL one day to test them (probably later today).
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-23 22:48:23 UTC Post #164734
I popped in to check on this...

You are including my entry right?
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-23 23:20:05 UTC Post #164735
What entry? :x
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-23 23:39:42 UTC Post #164737
Hrmph...

I made it for the origional compotition, before it was official.

Muzz already added it to the server though...

Its fine, just wondering.

Time to go back into hybernation ;)
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-24 00:19:30 UTC Post #164742
Well, it wasn't considered for this compo.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-24 04:14:10 UTC Post #164757
Dam dident make it in, oh well I'll get it done soon and give it to muzzle to put on the server. I would have had it done if my computer came earlyer
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-24 04:45:26 UTC Post #164759
I've finished judging by the way.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-24 11:41:28 UTC Post #164802
Yeah.Come on, get those results up!!!!!!!

I wan't a HL1 compo to start! :D
Unbreakable UnbreakableWindows 7.9 Rating!
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-24 12:28:41 UTC Post #164811
this was a HL1 compo silly.

I wan't a HL1 map from base compo to start! :D
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-24 12:38:20 UTC Post #164816
yes, but it wasn't sp. I hate making Deathmatch maps.. lol no offence.
:D
Unbreakable UnbreakableWindows 7.9 Rating!
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-24 12:46:58 UTC Post #164821
I hope to get my computer fixed by tonight and finish up the base map for the next competition. I suspect it will have a very high number of entries.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-24 12:49:37 UTC Post #164822
I love Base compos, however, never really had the chance to participate in one. :
Unbreakable UnbreakableWindows 7.9 Rating!
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-24 14:47:41 UTC Post #164845
@Ant - what happens to the few lines of text you put in the 'comments' box when submitting a map? does it even get read?
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-24 16:29:06 UTC Post #164881
^^

I will check out the entries this weekend.
I also asked Captain P and Kasperg to help with the judging. If thats ok with you, Seventh and Ant.
The Mad Carrot The Mad CarrotMad Carrot
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-24 17:11:49 UTC Post #164888
I'll start judging as soon as I get the zips/urls
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-24 17:22:35 UTC Post #164892
I like the base idea as well. They are kinda self-inspirational.

I might enter twice on this next one if it's a base compo.

:glad: :heart:
Rimrook RimrookSince 2003
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-25 04:33:59 UTC Post #164937
I have no prob with that. Just send 'em the thing I sent you, Muzzle.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-25 10:04:46 UTC Post #164963
Ok. :)

Jesus Christ! WADINCLUDE PEOPLE! Argh...
The Mad Carrot The Mad CarrotMad Carrot
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-25 21:29:24 UTC Post #165056
/me wadincluded!

Extra points plz kthx
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-25 21:47:46 UTC Post #165059
Also, setup your zips properly, sheesh!

I want it so that all I have to do is browse to my valve folder in WinRAR and hit extract, not having me do it all manually and then fix your dodgy folder placements!
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-25 21:56:57 UTC Post #165063
There's a few things to polish there, yeah. Like naming readme's the same as the map, rather than giving it the name readme.txt. Such files get lost every time a new readme.txt comes across, so in the end I really don't know who made a map anymore.
Wadincluding and the like is also greatly appreciated, as is making sure every necessary file gets into the .zip (one map didn't load due to a missing sprite).

However, I'm not going to judge on those things, just take them to heart next time you make a map. ;)

// I must say, providing a screenshot in the .zip is probably overkill as the map is already 'sold' (downloaded) by then, but it may be interesting to setup a sort of fast gallery system, so checking old maps becomes much faster...
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-27 06:22:12 UTC Post #165275
CP, could you check out the compo maps i send you earlier (pm).
The Mad Carrot The Mad CarrotMad Carrot
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-27 08:27:24 UTC Post #165298
Yes, I've been checking them out. You can expect a PM with my comments this evening.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-27 19:45:18 UTC Post #165416
I sent the PM.

Good to see the number of entries. Most were of decent enough quality, with a few that stood out (both positive and negative).
So, since I took notes during judging, I've got a few general comments that count for most, or at least some, maps. If you think they don't apply to your map, don't worry, they're general comments. I intend this as a list of general advices. I don't assume I'm a master of mapping, but I do think 6 years of experience have something to say. So, take it or leave it, all I hope to see is some better maps. ;)
Here goes:

1. Readme's. Most maps didn't come with either a readme, or didn't name it the same as their map. It's easy to forget who made a map after some time. ;)
2. Most maps lacked ambience. Some maps had a little sound, mostly some electrical crackle that gets annoying fast and is overused anyway. It's just a little extra touch that can do much for the immersion.
3. The forgotten gameplay. Most maps had a consistent style and looked decent enough. But other things were partially or even totally forgotten:
  • gameflow (some maps were hard to even walk around in, how am I supposed to run in it in a stressfull environment like a death-match?)
  • layout (a good DM map isn't just a bunch of corridors, it's a bunch of interesting setup combat area's connected to each other at various levels and places)
  • proper item placement (that means, placing them so they're easy to get, personally I think it's a bad thing to place every item so that it requires you to run into a little niche every time)
  • focussing combat into main area's and keeping the number and length of corridors down (corridors are boring to fight in, use them to connect combat area's with each other, otherwise place some cover in them but don't keep them too long still)
If anyone wants some specific comments on his map, feel free to PM me.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-27 20:00:44 UTC Post #165420
I'd like to add that lighting could be improved in most of the maps. Yellow point-lights just dont work in my opinion.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-27 20:09:50 UTC Post #165424
Damn it is taking a while to get the results up, someone die? :quizzical:
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-27 21:06:21 UTC Post #165435
Definitely agreed with that, Kasperg. Especially when combined with long corridors such lighting breaks (parts of) a map.

At the other hand, colored lighting can be used nicely to let players know where they are, but I haven't noticed use of that method in the maps so far.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-27 21:24:01 UTC Post #165436
During my testing I found that while there were stand out winners, that the other maps definately tried quite hard (rather proud, for some reason :P). I shall be doing a write up of all the maps and posting it as a link on the compo page.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-28 11:20:15 UTC Post #165509
All the things Captain P said are pointing to my map (and others of course.)

Sigh I knew my map is far from done, I worked pretty damn hard on a certain area cough gauss area cough, but the rest I just connected with each other, weapons, secret room wich nobody is going to find and done. I had to rush, I could have taken more time for my map, but I was just bored and idealess. I kinda felt my map wasn't compo-worthy, especially when I got a error at the bitter end so I couldn't wad include, but then again, what could it hurt?

After wards i'm kinda sorry I submited, I forgot ambience, medkits, battery... name it..
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-01 10:30:03 UTC Post #165734
/me kersplodes

(omfg i just invented my new favourite word ^_^)

kersplosion!

When are those results gett'n posted?
I wanna laugh my ass off when FresheD gets gold, because he's been lying about how bad he thinks his map is
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-01 14:22:01 UTC Post #165775
Damn it is taking a while to get the results up, someone die?
Hey, there were a fair few entries, and Ant is just starting university.
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-02 05:46:16 UTC Post #165904
Dammit! I totally forgot about BL entry! Argh.
The Mad Carrot The Mad CarrotMad Carrot
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-02 06:48:15 UTC Post #165921
Results!, Results!, Results!
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-02 06:52:31 UTC Post #165923
Yeh you guys suck.
You must post the results now or I pwn you.

(NO IM JUST KIDDING!)
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-02 07:02:04 UTC Post #165925
/crowd goes mad
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-02 07:24:15 UTC Post #165927
Compo results will be up very soon.
The Mad Carrot The Mad CarrotMad Carrot
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-02 13:28:49 UTC Post #165962
by monday, you did mean this year, right?
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-02 14:15:54 UTC Post #165965
because he's been lying about how bad he thinks his map is
Heh, that sentence didn't make any sense..
I do think my map is bad.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-06 16:58:18 UTC Post #166728
oh come on :( its a week overdue now...

Can't you tell we're desperate?
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-06 17:59:26 UTC Post #166737
/crowd goes insane...
/crowd burns TWHL flag
/crowd breaks the windows of the TWHL building.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-06 18:05:21 UTC Post #166740
/crowd burns TWHL flag
/crowd breaks the windows of the TWHL building.
:'( my poor map

/crowd burns saco
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-06 18:17:29 UTC Post #166742
TWHL flag? TWHL building? WTF!?!?!?!
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-06 18:19:22 UTC Post #166743
Ant: if you're ready, send the compo results to Seventh. :)
The Mad Carrot The Mad CarrotMad Carrot
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-06 18:57:58 UTC Post #166754
Give the guy a break, he just started uni today :P.
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-07 06:59:57 UTC Post #166793
Isn't he on his 2nd week? :confused:
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-07 07:32:56 UTC Post #166795
Are all the compo maps currently on the server? Will they be made available after the results come in?

I think everyone's map who entered should have a link on the results page, and you should be able to post comments.

My 2 cents.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-07 07:52:35 UTC Post #166796
Agrees with rowleybob.
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