How do you know when to leave a clan? Created 14 years ago2009-10-27 19:09:50 UTC by brendanmint

Im in this clan called BuildNation, Vamp, the leader is a great friend, and he was on GarrysMod.com a few times for his maps, based the clan around GMod, we have DoDS servers and stuff, ive been there longer than most of the newer members and im still one of the lowest ranks, it seems asthough no one in the clan likes me, and recently we lost the two co-leaders and a few members. I feel like the pile of crap of the clan, and just didnt know weather to leave or not, i asked them, they all said yes, but i dont know if they just wanted me to stay so they can make fun of me, or they really wanted me to stay, can anyone here help me on decideing?

Internet is serious business?

I don't think anyone is going to make fun of you, because you are "the pile of crap of the clan" and then tell you to stay, it just doesn't work that way.

Shrug it off, they're probably joking.

its not just that, its a lot of things i just didnt want to post because of time and length, i mean, they call me immature, when over half the clan is more immature then me, some of the ADMINS are more immature then me, i made a little slip, just poor judgement on my part the other day, and people just wont leave me alone for it, they cant accept that i just made a small mistake, they have to just keep on makeing fun of me for it, its just annoying, and i really liked this clan from the beginning, but now its just deteriorated, the Leader and New Co-Leader are rarly on, and so im stuck with these people who just wont leave me alone, and i just cant make a decsion.

here is the poor judgement part
http://www.buildnation.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7323#post7323

EDIT: i left

Obviously they're all fags. Don't join clans.
Join the TWHL Steam group! They host weekly HL:DM games!

yea, ive been in it for awhile i gtg go do my homework, or ill be in trouble

That chatlog made me physically ill.

You were as bad as each other.

3 of my friends and I co-founded a CS clan a few years ago called "IV." and we all dropped off the face of the clan about 2 years later.
Long story short, the clan degraded into nothing but wiggers over the years. Somewhere down the line, one of our more high admins, who also happened to be a big ICP fan but a generally cool guy anyway, decided to start recruiting little wigger pricks to keep our numbers high.
As the older members left, there got to be more of these little gangstas than the powers that be cared to keep in a cage and it would have killed the entire clan to just kick them out. So the people who who shared the original clan's ideals lost interest and eventually we just stopped paying for our servers all together.

That was probably totally irrelevant. It's better that you left. You don't like them, they don't like you-- everyone is better off. To be honest, the chat log makes you look like the dick. And nobody wants to hear that, but hey. You looked like the dick.

Edit: And Eric, if you catch this, it was all fucking Josh's fault.

Don't join clans.

Was going to suggest that myself.

EDIT: And why did you write "EDIT" in a new post, rather than using the edit button?

As WCD said, you were the dick.

Your fault.

You basically said that cells fuck each other, and that's how new cells are made?

So our growth is based on a whole bunch of cells fucking?

Yeah umm....I'm sorry, but its kinda hard to be on your side there.

Also, Luke is a dick.

Reading that chatlog was like using a jackhammer on my brain. Two illiterate nerds arguing about something that has absolutely no bearing on anything in the entire universe.

"U SUK"
"NO U"

At least he makes it funny.

EDIT: Luke, that is.

ITT dicks.

What, are we 4chan now?

We've been 4chan for about a year and a half now.

But 4chan has many many active members. We don't.

no. every post on 4chan is the same guy

Well, I know for sure there are at least two people on TWHL. Me and someone else.

You forgot me.

How do I know you're not the same person as every other account? Hell, how do I know this isn't the matrix exept I'm one of the few humans, and everyone around me is an AI?

Because I'D know.

Well, I know for sure there are at least two people on TWHL. Me and someone else.

You forgot me.

Samefag.

Also

Because I'D know.

Not a valid answer to "how do I know you aren't the same person as everyone else?"

This thread is now about the quantum observer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Truman_Show
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sims_(series)
Also, interesting question group: Do the characters in video games think? Are they sentient? Do they feel? If so, is playing FPS games ethical, as players can wipe out up to thousands of NPCs in a single playthrough?

No. No. No. And no on that last one.
Not until computers themselves are advanced enough to be considered sentient.

Good point.

That chatlog reminds me of my RuneScape days. Oh-so-many mouth-foaming short-on-ritalin little 12-yr-old blobs (not the case with you, I hope) claiming to have slept with one another's mothers there.

To build on my last post, even when [if?] we build sentient machines, I don't think killing a video game character would be immoral. The game itself isn't sentient, just the machine it's run on. Like killing someone in your own imagination.

Of course, if you use a super powerful computer to build sentient programs, it gets blurry because really you can just recreate the exact same program. Sure it literally lives, but if you kill it you can still remake an exact copy. Whether or not it's immoral to kill something that can be recreated in its entirety is up to you.
And then there's the issue of playing god because the super computer is essentially they're own little universe. There's a whole mess of ethical issues that arise.

Imagine some supercomputer in the future turning emo, shorting his own circuits and refusing to function until they buy him tickets to a local My Chemical Romance gig.

Video game characters aren't alive, but I'm pretty sure my keyboard is suing me for sexual harassment.

If computers became sentient, I think internet porn would become alot less popular.

Computer: "Uh, dude. What are you doing?! Put your pants back on!"

Computer: You have no respect for women! I'm going to email your boss with these pictures unless you type a formal apology up by the end of the day!
User: I apologize for being such a sleazy pervert! Please don't get me fired!

Come to think of it, I don't even see a reason to use sentient computers for performing any of the tasks we use PCs for.

What about the idiots who don't know how to use a PC for anything other than Youtube and MSN?

They don't deserve a PC anyway. Fucktards.
Let's cleanse them.

Yeah, but they use them anyway.
And then there's the type that speaks in repeditive internet memes and unfunny phrases from unfunny ventriloquists, while stuffing his face full of food and stabbing himself with a pencil. And you have to sit next to him.

SILENCE, I KEEL YOU!

I found some clans are useless anyway. One CS:S game I played, most of the other players were Clan members, on cs-office, I was the last remaining CS player against 6 terrorists. i just tore through the building, picking them off one by one. They were completely useless

Samefag.

You, my friend, are the fag.