Limit.. What is it? Created 18 years ago2005-05-10 13:48:03 UTC by Unbreakable

Is there a limit on the amount of sprites in a map.. because I want to create a picture of the gman with diferent color sprites showing each colored pixel... another words I got a picture containing 256 Unique colors, sooo, that would be 256 sprites...

Well, is there a problem with this, other than it will take forever to accomplish?

Why?

I'm pretty sure the limits are mentioned in a readme somewhere, or on Leak-free, zhlt.info or Tommy's.

well, I don't want to get half his face done to find out that I reached a limit.. and got to end it.. thats alot of work, I was thinking of using the move with function too make all 256 sprites fly in and make the picture of him.. it would be unreal.

Just put 256 generic sprites in the map and see if it runs.

Aaah, I see. That was what I was asking ? why you wanted to do it.

Sound advice from Mr. Goat there. I think it'll probably be okay.

There's an entity limit, so you'd probably have to limit the amount of sprites.

256 should still be within limits. I'm not sure what the maximum number of entities allowed in a map is but it's high enough that you should be able to make the g-man. Although it could hinder the number of entities you could place throughout the rest of the map.

This might come in handy:

Use -chart on all tools to see the limits. It'l point out how many entities you got in your map, what the limits is, how many models you have, etc, all in detail. It looks like this:

Object names Objects/Maxobjs Memory / Maxmem Fullness
---------- ------------- ------------- ------
models 1/400 64/25600 ( 0.3%)
planes 21/32768 420/655360 ( 0.1%)
vertexes 67/65535 804/786420 ( 0.1%)
nodes 7/32767 168/786408 ( 0.0%)
texinfos 12/32767 480/1310680 ( 0.0%)
faces 55/65535 1100/1310700 ( 0.1%)
clipnodes 18/32767 144/262136 ( 0.1%)
leaves 3/8192 84/229376 ( 0.0%)
marksurfaces 55/65535 110/131070 ( 0.1%)
surfedges 268/512000 1072/2048000 ( 0.1%)
edges 135/256000 540/1024000 ( 0.1%)
texdata [variable] 180/4194304 ( 0.0%)
lightdata [variable] 19344/6291456 ( 0.3%)
visdata [variable] 6/2097152 ( 0.0%)
entdata [variable] 2737/524288 ( 0.5%)

Or am i just talking old news?

I've seen detailed limits for entities listed before. I think it was on Tommy's site somewhere.

Will search thanks guys....

If I would have thought of this before the latest compo.. sigh* :

Heh, that would've been extremely impressive.

Well, It will be done.. so keep a watch for it., Im also going to try making him talk by moving the sprites..

I made the sprites scale: .04.. argh, path_corners, are going to be crowded..lol

256 sprites...

Dies

256 Sprites = Lag!

Are you sure you can't just make an image in photoshop, and set the rendermore to additive??

Read the idea ? he wants to have the image fly. I think that'd be superb.

Maybe you should try it with 256 default small sprites.

It will be a nuisance if some of the sprites are slightly further apart and it could take ages!

I think the sprite limit is somewhere around 10000 before hl crashed horrible, though that was my error, i should have had the locus delete the sprites.

ok.. cool, thanks guys.

Can we see the map when it's done? It sounds very cool.

HA!..

ya when it's done..lol It'll take a while

While on the subject of sprites, How can I edit them?

Using Sprite viewer (which is a program)
You can download it by searching it on google.

Isn't it called sprview!

ya you'll also need Sprite Wizard to put the pics in order, and save as a sprite.

Wait... so I can make my own sprites? WOW!

Very ineresting Muzzle.. Your post caused me to go back to tommy 14's site, to look over and try to understand--once again--exactly what leafs, planes, clipnodes, and such are, and their limits.

Damn You!

You know, all that's now on the much easier-on-the-eye Leak-Free.

Wow, seventh, thats incredibly handy.. thanks.

Sweeta!

This is an old thread, and this is probably already known to most, but i came across this while searching for sprite limits on my own.

http://www.leak-free.org/errors/#toomanyentities

Half-Life 1 Limits
ALL Entities 2048
MAX_ENGINE_ENTITIES 1024
MAX_MAP_ENTITIES 2048
In-Game Entity Engine Limit 500
Compiling Tools Brush Based Entities 400
Model & Sprite Sub-Limit 400

interesting

HAHAHA! that's awsome!!!

if you use particles (the ones used to find leaks) you can have around 20000 of them. you'll need spririt to do it tho.

I tried to make a "matrix" style pillar where it was made up of little 4x4 breakable cubes, the map wouldn't compile, unless there were like only a couple hundred.

Wow VOX, that's an interesting new spin on an old Idea...very interesting!

It definitely should have compiled though, have you seen J3r3my's compo map?

He had to have thousands of individual blocks in that thing!