I?m starting my C++ travel. Created 20 years ago2003-12-09 12:00:32 UTC by Marlborometal Marlborometal

Created 20 years ago2003-12-09 12:00:32 UTC by Marlborometal Marlborometal

Posted 20 years ago2003-12-09 12:00:32 UTC Post #7038
This night I started working with C++. Although is something new and confusing for me (Basic veteran) I managed to do a simple, stupid mastermind game where you have to guess a number that the computer chooses randomly (stupid srand( time(NULL)) thing, I hate it!!!!)... What I plan to do is learn some programming stuff so I can make my own things for Half Life and write some simple things for people to work with HL coding too (if I can write it or if it?s possible to make a tut for newbies on that)... Later I will try to do some stupid games, like that Snake in the Nokia mobile phones.
Any good advice or good link???. I?m having a hard time since most tutorials out there talk about something unknown in an almost-unknown language!!!.
Wish me luck :).
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-09 12:19:43 UTC Post #7039
Best of luck, my friend! :)
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-09 13:05:47 UTC Post #7040
good luck..
about teh tutorials, there are full books of that incredibly useful information. I am a closet bookworm amongst other things.!
buy one of those :)
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-09 14:33:44 UTC Post #7046
Thanks Steinin :)... And, said some books???... I?ll try Zombie. Have a nice stay in Brazil and, of course, take care of yourself.
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-09 15:27:20 UTC Post #7049
ill try to watch out for anacondas. But dont try to keep me away from aligator wrestling!!!
:D
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-09 16:25:40 UTC Post #7052
If you have the spare change laying around, I'd consider going to your local community college and taking either an online course or a regular course. I feel pretty well off with C++, Java, and Perl because of this.

Back to making a church :lol:
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-09 18:00:57 UTC Post #7073
Buy C++ for dummies - those books usually start you off nicely
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-09 18:56:55 UTC Post #7087
i'd prolly agree with doing some sort of course, cos there would be someone on hand to help you there and then. pluss you would be given stuff like books...etc as part of the course
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-09 20:37:59 UTC Post #7090
Hmm. The year has started but... I?ll inform.
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-09 20:39:31 UTC Post #7091
I think starting with C++ straight off isn't the best foray into programming, Java is far easier and better to start with.
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-10 03:34:00 UTC Post #7106
He hasn't. He said he'd done BASIC.
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-10 04:16:01 UTC Post #7110
Yes Jobabob, I did loads of Basic back in the late 80s and early 90s. It?s true that C++ is thousands mora complicated than Basic, that needed no other thing than itself to run a program (I mean, still annoys me a little to include *.h to have access to some commands, though I see it natural and justificated in such a complex system).
What I?m trying to do now is to make some of the parts from the main function be functions apart. I don?t know if it?s good for a program (probably yes, it seems more structured this way) to make this, but I have to learn about it anyway. In my particular case, I added a function that checked out if the number you gave to the computer is bigger, smaller or equal to the number you have to guess and returns a value from 0 to 2 to the main function so it acts in consequence...
I don?t understand pretty well how it works, but worked without bugs first time!!!!.
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-10 05:27:43 UTC Post #7114
I don't consider BASIC actual programming. I did loads of pointless QBASIC and whatever BASIC you got on the BBC micro and I didn't have a clue when it came to actual programming.

I still advise skipping C++ and starting with Java. It is honestly a much better language for begginers, efficiency means FA until you create something that needs it.

Plus if someone can write a bittorent client in Java, it's hardly just a learning language ;)
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-10 08:45:38 UTC Post #7119
The thing is... I want to use C++ for Half Life as soon as possible, I mean, let?s do it right, but let?s not stop or step apart from the current objectives. I see that you know Java but, what about C Jobabob?.
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-10 14:19:03 UTC Post #7149
I would recommend the idiot's guides. I got one for Visual basic when I used to program for that and it was great! Even came with a trial version of MS VB 6! The only downside is you can't create exes with it :(

Maybe if you get a C++ idiot's guide, you may get a free compiler/trial version of MSVC++! I haven't actually had a look at idiot's guides for C++ yet. I would recommend dummy's guides as well, they are of a similar standard!
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-10 15:00:15 UTC Post #7154
Would you recommend me to start working with the SDK or better start off making calculators and other stuff???. By the way Master of Puppets, your avatar is SO disturbing!!!. I Liked the Metallica Cover most ;).
Vassy, many people are recommending me those idiot guides. Today I?m going to the... errr... how is it called... Library?...No, no, that public place where you can borrow books... Damn!!!!. Must be library ?cos
bookstores is where they sell them and... Doesn?t matter, the fact is that I?m going to see if I can borrow one of those idiot books with my face on it :P.
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-10 15:53:53 UTC Post #7163
It's a library.
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-10 17:12:38 UTC Post #7192
Lol, library. And just as a note, we don't think you're an idiot, we just like idiots' guides ;)
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-10 17:35:33 UTC Post #7200
I was kidding Vassy :) :) :). And, well, seems to be library but, as Seventh may know, in spanish Libreria (resembles library) is the place where... they sell books. And, as you all know, I?m stupid enough to not distinguish those words :P :) :),
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-10 17:46:03 UTC Post #7202
It's a library, like seventh said. Trust me!
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-10 21:03:12 UTC Post #7212
I started with Java and moved onto C. I've done a little C++ but I tend to steer clear of it as I like my OO programming seperate from my nonsense-pointer-based-hard-ass-source programming (meaning pure C).
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-11 05:28:59 UTC Post #7248
Halflife could've been written in C I assure you. C is NOT a crappier version of C++ ffs.
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-11 23:56:29 UTC Post #7348
Come on... Let?s be peaceful :P. Seems that the most important C++ thing is that Object oriented stuff. I?m currently trying to do some things with it ?cos Half Life looks like using it a lot.
By the way, I?m totally frustrated for 2 things:
-I can?t return a string of characters from a function... It?s so frustrating if you try to make a word game structured in functions.
-I?m unable to read the specific point I like from a txt. I know how to use that ifstream and ofstream (at least a little) but when comes to read an specific part of a txt file I?m lost.
But I?m doing little progress.
Posted 20 years ago2003-12-12 01:40:36 UTC Post #7350
I started with Visual Basic ... One of the easiest programming languages to jump into. Then went to C and took courses for the rest.

I also reccomend starting off on something easier then C++. You don't want to burn yourself or frustrate yourself.
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