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By Archie (See more)
2nd March, 2017

Half-Life: Deathmatch
Hosted Externally - BSP

Last edited: 19th March, 2017


My entry for competition 34. See if you can guess which map it's a subtle re-imagining of!

Currently playing on:

Apologies for the reupload - the map vault edit system seems bugged.


avatar Strider says: 3rd March 2017, 09:53 AM
Oh I get it, it's Datacore!
avatar zeeba-G says: 3rd March 2017, 17:28 PM
Can't wait to check out this version this weekend!
avatar James Luke says: star star star star star 4th March 2017, 00:55 AM
Just played the map for the first time.

Stunning work!
avatar JeffMOD says: star star star star star 18th March 2017, 18:24 PM
An excellent remake of HLDM's most-played map. Much more room to run around in, added verticality, and additional rooms boost the gameplay possibilities. Replacing the nuke with an airstrike (and the addition of radio chatter when it's activated) give the sometimes-maligned mechanic a sense of story and logic.
The visuals of the map are very impressive for goldsource, with nothing seeming more blocky than it should, or low-resolution. (Well, okay, I can't read the brand names on the vending machines, but they look so good that I also can't make myself care)

I didn't get a chance to try out the old version, so I don't know what changes were made, but since nothing seemed odd or out of place, I figure they must have been for the better.
avatar DiscoStu says: star star star star star 18th March 2017, 18:57 PM
Excellent map with very natural lighting. A more reasonable (although at times slightly confusing) layout that plays well and great attention to detail. I expected no less of you.

Well done except I couldn't find the snarks tap.
avatar Admer456 says: star star star star star 18th March 2017, 21:17 PM
Let's take a look at this framerate nightmare again: (well, if 6fps is a nightmare xD)

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Thank God, and thank you, Archie!
Finally, my frames are back at 20fps to 30fps instead of my GPU struggling to handle the flickering lights. :D

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The same thing here, although it doesn't change much. :/
My frames are OK, seems playable here. Nice details there and there, and I like the overall feel and taste for textures. ;)

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Ah, one of those rare spots where I get 60fps. :D
Lots of TWHL references scattered around the map. That's what makes these maps so special: wisely putting (not too many) references of things/people we know.

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Looks like you listened to my advice. xD
Or someone else told you?

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So the minimum framerate I get in the whole map is 9fps. Perfect, compared to the previous version's 4fps which was present a lot, in fact.

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Uhh... what. Ah well, not everything has to be perfect. :)

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This is a very very nostalgic pipe...
Reminds me of the Half-Life 2 sewers! :D
Also, nice use of the Glow Render Mode with sprites in the tunnel afterwards.

So yeah, I can say that, with much better framerates, this map is optimised sufficiently for older hardware, and is able to run acceptably on my almost-10-year-old laptop. You basically gave me a performance boost (and thank you for that).
If we were to rate on a scale of 10, I'd give a 9.
So, that's basically 5 out of 5 stars here.
avatar Archie says: 19th March 2017, 03:14 AM
Cheers for the reviews, guys! Thankyou!

Admer, I really appreciate the in-depth review but you really gotta sort your gamma out. It makes the lighting look terrible! xD
avatar Bruce says: star star star star 19th March 2017, 06:04 AM
actually the way his gamma makes the lighting look so bright kinda suits the map better since its set in a desert?! anyway the lighting in this map is great, sometimes hard to tell apart from Source and also reminded me of Mirror's Edge. It's kind of a massive version of crossfire and would probably play interestingly but one sad truth is that these days it's really hard to get players in HLDM and even if you do, few would wait the 20MB download, the reality is that players gather from all around with the shittiest connections, I look after one server for years so talking from experience... And yeah fps isn't the greatest, on my linux craptop sometimes it drops to 10fps but I guess it runs fine on an average modern PC. Either way, since HL is such an unpredictable creature with a life of it's own, don't worry, players will see what this map is worth, either sooner or 20 more years later. Good work!
avatar Admer456 says: 19th March 2017, 08:36 AM
While I was making ts_untergrund and showing the screenshots, everyone said they were too dark. The same thing goes for de_kobbl.

And now, you're saying it's too bright!
Well, guess what, they're actually my monitor's colour settings.

Essentially, contrast is high, brightness compensates the contrast (so br. also gets a bit high) and I also turn on "vivid colours". So yeah, the lighting looks great on my end. I don't know what's the big deal with my gamma setup. In fact, I will show you a screenshot of my colour settings, and the video settings in GoldSrc.
avatar Archie says: 19th March 2017, 14:41 PM
That's a really nice review, Bruce! Thankyou! We've managed to get pretty regular 12-man meetups on the TWHL/SnC server, but that's probably because we're in the midst of a competition period.

As for Admer's gamma, it's taking all of the colours out of the highlights, neutralising the blacks and causing pretty extreme banding wherever the lighting blends. Here's a comparison against default gamma settings:
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Look at where the worklight blends, for example. That banding is really nasty :o
avatar Admer456 says: 19th March 2017, 22:52 PM
What the heck...
So, by trying to fix one end (darkness), I broke the other end. (brightness)
Uhh... come on...

Looks like I'll have to default it all and re-configure it. :P
avatar UrbaNebula says: star star star star star 28th March 2017, 01:21 AM
Loving this rendition of the classic crossfire. I'd give it a solid four stars, but the sexy ass voice acting during the bombing run pushes it up by another point.

In all seriousness though, it's quite tits.
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