I pick Tetsu0's. Ant222's was nice and very original, but also uncompiled/textured, which means a lot... ( I hope we get more than 3-4 votes, lol = ) )
You should make one too Redka!
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It's a cool idea for a challenge! maybe set some base dimensions or make a little base map. I would google a bunch of railings/balconies for ideas, and make some nice supports/buttresses if you can see the balcony from outside.
Well crap you did such a nice job on the pillar... well, maybe you can join the next?! : (
Updated hypercube:
http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/hypercube0012.zip
hypercube0009: normal/additive/125
hypercube0010: fast flicker/additive/125
hypercube0011: faster flicker/additive/137
hypercube0012: fast wide pulse/additive/105
They all look neat and different imo, that's why they're all in the download.
I probably should've done all the variations together in one map, with a bunch of different settings, but alas, I can't spend any more time on this! = )
Thanks to Tetsu0/srry: you make my heart warm = )
Updated hypercube:
http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/hypercube0012.zip
hypercube0009: normal/additive/125
hypercube0010: fast flicker/additive/125
hypercube0011: faster flicker/additive/137
hypercube0012: fast wide pulse/additive/105
They all look neat and different imo, that's why they're all in the download.
I probably should've done all the variations together in one map, with a bunch of different settings, but alas, I can't spend any more time on this! = )
Thanks to Tetsu0/srry: you make my heart warm = )
http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/WW30mm.wmv
(If this is dumb to start a video weapon, destroy pleez! I kept making the mistake to post video in the other thread)
(If this is dumb to start a video weapon, destroy pleez! I kept making the mistake to post video in the other thread)
Agreed. It would be nice to have more players... Maybe the 3-4 of us who always participate should make a mod together!
On an unrelated idea, here is my hypercube version:
http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/hypercube0007.zip
If I demand more time, I would like to experiment with render options and other stuff to make the effect better. I used separate func_walls for each cross section, which made the effect a lot better than making the whole a single entity.
On an unrelated idea, here is my hypercube version:
http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/hypercube0007.zip
If I demand more time, I would like to experiment with render options and other stuff to make the effect better. I used separate func_walls for each cross section, which made the effect a lot better than making the whole a single entity.
Sounds really good. I never played Someplace Else, but I have it downloaded, and have planned on playing it for a while. Have to check it out. = )
Coop things are great if you can get people to do what they say they will do.
I like the idea of passing around a map with assignments or not, but too bad you couldn't make an evolving/revolving map without having to wait for the next person to finish... I mean, it could take ages. (either you'd have to make it really simple or very precise insturctions/restrictions)
Anyway I think it's a great idea!
Coop things are great if you can get people to do what they say they will do.
I like the idea of passing around a map with assignments or not, but too bad you couldn't make an evolving/revolving map without having to wait for the next person to finish... I mean, it could take ages. (either you'd have to make it really simple or very precise insturctions/restrictions)
Anyway I think it's a great idea!
I can't believe nobody posted this...behold:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xos1v5A2p94
pwned.
Blitzkrieg: if we start a new weapon all the old weapons will be reused anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xos1v5A2p94
pwned.
Blitzkrieg: if we start a new weapon all the old weapons will be reused anyway.
Haha Dr. Who wins!
Check the chair-to-keyboard interface.
Seriously, how can anyone answer a question that doesn't ask anything?! I mean really...
Post a real question, post a link to your map, or search other maps as examples an compare to yours. I found this one in the map vault:
http://twhl.co.za/mapvault_map.php?id=3296
Seriously, how can anyone answer a question that doesn't ask anything?! I mean really...
Post a real question, post a link to your map, or search other maps as examples an compare to yours. I found this one in the map vault:
http://twhl.co.za/mapvault_map.php?id=3296
I hope you can finish it but studies come first!
Here's my final for #6:
http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/geometry60003.zip
I used alt-e to taper the top and bottom of each column so there thinner
and tapered now. The capital parts of the columns are also scaled down using alt-e, but no big visible errors, so I'm leaving them that way rather than redesigning.
Hope somebody else joins in before the end... it was so much fun! : )
Here's my final for #6:
http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/geometry60003.zip
I used alt-e to taper the top and bottom of each column so there thinner
and tapered now. The capital parts of the columns are also scaled down using alt-e, but no big visible errors, so I'm leaving them that way rather than redesigning.
Hope somebody else joins in before the end... it was so much fun! : )
Yeah I was just sayin ; )
Whoa that's sweet! Looks like a tree or freaky tentacle WIN! = )
I don't think you can edit unless you have the last post....
Btw figured out a couple of my aformentioned problems:
-light_environment wasn't working because of my sky brushes weren't textured every face with sky.
-the light was coming through brush seams because of some off-grid verticies.
I don't think you can edit unless you have the last post....
Btw figured out a couple of my aformentioned problems:
-light_environment wasn't working because of my sky brushes weren't textured every face with sky.
-the light was coming through brush seams because of some off-grid verticies.
Ant222: I'm at an internet hotspot and it's blocking your host! I'll check it out tonight and nice to see you back! : )
Tetsu0: Columns look great in-game, and the glass texture looks cool, and they're scaled nicely. but maybe you could adjust the texture scaling/lighting to accent the flutes a little better...I mean they look good, but they could look better. (there hard to see imo)
Tetsu0: Columns look great in-game, and the glass texture looks cool, and they're scaled nicely. but maybe you could adjust the texture scaling/lighting to accent the flutes a little better...I mean they look good, but they could look better. (there hard to see imo)
I use gmail to host, but it's only 100 mb. sign up for gmail if you feel like it.. it's pretty easy with no restrictions. once you sign up, point your browser to:
http://pages.google.com/
and it will show you the upload section.
http://pages.google.com/
and it will show you the upload section.
K here's my number 6, simple fluted columns:
http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/geometry60000.zip
I'm having problem weird shadows on some of the small brushes, and I can't seem to get my light environment to work (hence the weird texture lighting) If someone can be bothered to check out these problems I'd be grateful! The columns are also fatter/blockier than I'd like but I'm not redesigning them. = )
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http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/geometry60000.zip
I'm having problem weird shadows on some of the small brushes, and I can't seem to get my light environment to work (hence the weird texture lighting) If someone can be bothered to check out these problems I'd be grateful! The columns are also fatter/blockier than I'd like but I'm not redesigning them. = )
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It's just so strange... Any problem I've ever had with hammer was fixed with just shutting it down and starting the program again... Strange too that reinstalling it doesn't do anything. Maybe seek new installation files? /reaching
When I upgraded my computer I just copied the directory structure from one comp to the other and it worked, is still working good with no troubles. I didn't think it would work but if it ain't broke i guess... = )
When I upgraded my computer I just copied the directory structure from one comp to the other and it worked, is still working good with no troubles. I didn't think it would work but if it ain't broke i guess... = )
My #6 will be up soon... (having some lighting difficutly)
Tetsu0: pretty sweet from the screen! I'll dl and check it out further.
Redka:I wonder too why other people don't join the challenges, but i wish they did! (we could use some new blood/ideas) Maybe we should do a poll!:
Why don't you participate in the geometry challentes?
1. I don't like geometry
2. I don't like challenges
3. I'm afraid of the unknown
: P
Muzzleflash: Ur using Vista?
Tetsu0: pretty sweet from the screen! I'll dl and check it out further.
Redka:I wonder too why other people don't join the challenges, but i wish they did! (we could use some new blood/ideas) Maybe we should do a poll!:
Why don't you participate in the geometry challentes?
1. I don't like geometry
2. I don't like challenges
3. I'm afraid of the unknown
: P
Muzzleflash: Ur using Vista?
I pick redka's hypercube(s) for the win unless somebody else has one. So Redka or someone new start us off on #6!
Zombie: I guess you say it's "great" because you tried the tutorial and made one?! Please post your sphere so we may touch it! = )
I'm going to give it a try but I'm guessing it will be filled with compile/HOM errors... we'll see!
Was anybody able to find the VERC sphere tutorial? (maybe it doesn't exist, lol).
Zombie: I guess you say it's "great" because you tried the tutorial and made one?! Please post your sphere so we may touch it! = )
I'm going to give it a try but I'm guessing it will be filled with compile/HOM errors... we'll see!
Was anybody able to find the VERC sphere tutorial? (maybe it doesn't exist, lol).
Geometry challenge #5: Make a hypercube.
Since nobody knows what they really look like, you can really make it whatever you want, but it should look super fancy and exoticly cubish. (If you're struggling for ideas, image search "hypercube", 4-dimensional, or check out one of the many web pages dedicatated to them.
Tetsu0:It's amazing you can do that dome without HLFix...
Imo hammer is flakey enough with brush errors to have to worry about seams that look fine in-editor, and then mess up (overlap inexplicably, look jagged) after compile; HLFix eliminates that annoyance!
Since nobody knows what they really look like, you can really make it whatever you want, but it should look super fancy and exoticly cubish. (If you're struggling for ideas, image search "hypercube", 4-dimensional, or check out one of the many web pages dedicatated to them.
Tetsu0:It's amazing you can do that dome without HLFix...
Imo hammer is flakey enough with brush errors to have to worry about seams that look fine in-editor, and then mess up (overlap inexplicably, look jagged) after compile; HLFix eliminates that annoyance!
Tetsu0: Yay! I followed your dome tutorial so thanks to you! = ) Do you use HLFix on your dome?
I don't really know what you mean by 12 sides tho, I mean at the top where the slices of the sphere come together, there are 12... that's what I thought you meant (or 3 wedges per 90 degrees).
I'll come up with a compo 5 in a little while!
Redka: Yeah like the first one is how i did it too. I can't get the sides to line up after compile perfectly without using HLFix (I would highly recommend anyone using hammer to use it).
Someone said in mapping tips you can use the arch tool to make domes, but i dunno... actually I think there is an old VERC tutorial about it : /
I don't really know what you mean by 12 sides tho, I mean at the top where the slices of the sphere come together, there are 12... that's what I thought you meant (or 3 wedges per 90 degrees).
I'll come up with a compo 5 in a little while!
Redka: Yeah like the first one is how i did it too. I can't get the sides to line up after compile perfectly without using HLFix (I would highly recommend anyone using hammer to use it).
Someone said in mapping tips you can use the arch tool to make domes, but i dunno... actually I think there is an old VERC tutorial about it : /
Crap. = ) oh well it was fun to make anyway.
Here's my new #4 entry: (the sphere is hollow, you just have to noclip inside)
http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/geometry4.zip
A lot easier than the dodecagator fo sho! : P
Here's my new #4 entry: (the sphere is hollow, you just have to noclip inside)
http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/geometry4.zip
A lot easier than the dodecagator fo sho! : P
Or, the fully automatic, recoilless shotgun!
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/78284/automatic_shotgun/
Post a link to your map and I'll take a look if you want. The ZHLT lightflags should work tho afaik.
From your screens though I think it looks pretty good (natural to have light bleeding in through the cracks). Maybe in game it doesn't look so good?
From your screens though I think it looks pretty good (natural to have light bleeding in through the cracks). Maybe in game it doesn't look so good?
Behold, the ugliest dodecahedron evvvar:
http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/geometry40002.zip
Was quite a pain in the ass! Thanks Tetsu0 for a fun challenge! = ) Cant wait to see what the others come up with!
http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/geometry40002.zip
Was quite a pain in the ass! Thanks Tetsu0 for a fun challenge! = ) Cant wait to see what the others come up with!
Yeah for # 3 I don't think it's possible (with hammer anyway) to make it without error and only one brush... I'll try it again later maybe, but now on to number 4! Hollow sphere here we come... = )
Tetsu0: your avatar, or is that a mask!
Muzzleflash: that seriously sucks. I hope you figure it out without reformating!
Tetsu0: your avatar, or is that a mask!
Muzzleflash: that seriously sucks. I hope you figure it out without reformating!
Wow sounds pretty cool! If you can pimp some links I'll give it a try! (do you use the zhlt compile tools with quark?)
As for geometry challenge #3, It's really a clipping more than a construction compo, but what the heck, I'll try it! = )
As for geometry challenge #3, It's really a clipping more than a construction compo, but what the heck, I'll try it! = )
Intriguing! Quark sounds pretty good in some respects, but honestly the last thing I feel like doing is to learn another editor!
You can compile with Quark for HL maps?
KK so who's gonna make challenge #3? Tetsu0? Redka? Anybody? = )
You can compile with Quark for HL maps?
KK so who's gonna make challenge #3? Tetsu0? Redka? Anybody? = )
Wow! Hollow though?! Amazing Tetsuo! : P
Redka did his first, but what is quark? (is it a mapper or modeller?)
Here's mine, but pretty late. I was almost done and I had to get off the computer yesterday. Here it is, 2.1 and now 2.2:
http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/geometry20001.zip
Tetsu0 or Redka are you making the #3? Who is techically the winner since Redka's wasn't in hammer?
Redka did his first, but what is quark? (is it a mapper or modeller?)
Here's mine, but pretty late. I was almost done and I had to get off the computer yesterday. Here it is, 2.1 and now 2.2:
http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/geometry20001.zip
Tetsu0 or Redka are you making the #3? Who is techically the winner since Redka's wasn't in hammer?
If it happens again, I'll try the things you all have suggested, thanks! ( I wish I would have kept the corrupted map for testing purposes!)
EDIT:
This happened again, and I figured out the problem.
It's caused from overly-complex brushes or just a shitload of complicated geometry (i got this in my mobius map). Here's some fixes... all of these work independently:
-Under CSG run with "-cliptype precise" switch.
-I dunno if the copy/paste method Tetsu0 mentioned would work... I wish I would have tested it! (Again, I didn't save the offending map for further testing purposes like a moron).
-obviously, you can remake the whole thing! = )
Hope this helps somebody!
EDIT:
This happened again, and I figured out the problem.
It's caused from overly-complex brushes or just a shitload of complicated geometry (i got this in my mobius map). Here's some fixes... all of these work independently:
-Under CSG run with "-cliptype precise" switch.
- (full vis has no effect)
-I dunno if the copy/paste method Tetsu0 mentioned would work... I wish I would have tested it! (Again, I didn't save the offending map for further testing purposes like a moron).
-obviously, you can remake the whole thing! = )
Hope this helps somebody!
For 2.1 I'll assume you mean 90-degree bends in a pipe and not a coil of pipe?
I'm doing mine right now.
Tetsu0: lol nice photshop!
edit: Maiking my pipe, now I know what you mean about the turn sections! (not just simply joining 2 cylinders)
I'm doing mine right now.
Tetsu0: lol nice photshop!
edit: Maiking my pipe, now I know what you mean about the turn sections! (not just simply joining 2 cylinders)
The final zhlt release.
I've just never seen vis fail completely with no error... pretty weird.
I've just never seen vis fail completely with no error... pretty weird.
What do you mean by "broken grid"/"off-grid stuff"?
Every vertex is on grid for my basemap, that I gurantee. : )
I will admit I'm not happy with the base map tho too. Anyone who wants to create one please step up. (you can still participate in the challenge imo.
Anybody with any ideas for a texture-based challenge please suggest away... Personally, I need the experince building custom textures! = )
Every vertex is on grid for my basemap, that I gurantee. : )
I will admit I'm not happy with the base map tho too. Anyone who wants to create one please step up. (you can still participate in the challenge imo.
Anybody with any ideas for a texture-based challenge please suggest away... Personally, I need the experince building custom textures! = )
If nobody ends up being interested in the base map texturing, what do you think about a 1-texture compo, like just making a door or wall or window texture, or even maybe remaking some of the more bland original HL ones?
I added 4 blocks to an error free map and VIS just refused to run after that.
I run the -chart parameter to tell what resources are being used and everything is fine.
There is no error in the compile log, i just get a "windows encountered an error" message and vis.exe shuts down. ( the rest of the compile completes)
Does it in both hammer 3.5 and batch compiler.
I reverted to a previous version and everything is fine now, but I spent hours looking for a problem and couldn't find anything and I have no idea what caused it to happen ( i didn't saved the messed-up map unfortunately)
I run the -chart parameter to tell what resources are being used and everything is fine.
There is no error in the compile log, i just get a "windows encountered an error" message and vis.exe shuts down. ( the rest of the compile completes)
Does it in both hammer 3.5 and batch compiler.
I reverted to a previous version and everything is fine now, but I spent hours looking for a problem and couldn't find anything and I have no idea what caused it to happen ( i didn't saved the messed-up map unfortunately)
Haha sweet! I'll work on these tomorrow morning. = )
LOL you said mong... : P
Have a dude from DoD come out and noscope you in the face... that always makes me jump! = )
I've used XP since it was offered and afaik It has never crashed on me. I've gotten several very low level viruses, but was always able to remove them upon virus scan and life as usual. (I refuse to run antivirus resident)
The only weakpoints afaik were if u used IE with sp1 you would get raped with spyware... Everything's pretty sweet with sp2 tho.
The only weakpoints afaik were if u used IE with sp1 you would get raped with spyware... Everything's pretty sweet with sp2 tho.
Here's my version of the base room:
http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/texture0001.zip
This is fancier than I wanted to make it, but I got a little carried away.
http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/texture0001.zip
This is fancier than I wanted to make it, but I got a little carried away.
I don't know what you mean about the Escher brush but please explain!
I'm glad you are going to create a challenge for us! Perhaps we should
make it a seperate thread to make it cleaner? (dunno up to you)
I'm glad you are going to create a challenge for us! Perhaps we should
make it a seperate thread to make it cleaner? (dunno up to you)
Yay the answer! U win the prize! (Geometry challenge prizes are not currently available, but you will be contacted as soon as they are!)
Would you like to create a geometry challenge #2?
Would you like to create a geometry challenge #2?
It's not really what I meant, but essentially the same thing I guess if we go with a base map everyone likes. The base map I was envisioning was really just one room, and then we could expand the room for further texture contests--sort of an evolving basemap I guess.
Whatever we decide on, I like where this is headed! = )
My basemap (or really base room) will be up soon.
Whatever we decide on, I like where this is headed! = )
My basemap (or really base room) will be up soon.
"Too bad I suck at making textures."
It's the whole point of the challenge! ; ) I also agree with The Hunter that texturing is a hugely important aspect of mapping. The more I map the more important I think texturing is; a nicely textured flat wall or simple structure looks better than fancy, time-consuming world geometry in many cases.
"Captain Terror, it's your idea, so you organise it, mate =]"
oh kkk. I can make the base map, but if someone has wants to make it (Rimrook) you wouldn't have to be disqualified from the challenge: we can vote the winner from a consensus of the the participants.
I'm going to start with a really simple basemap and then we can make it more detailed as we go (you'll have to create fewer textures for the newer compos) I'll make the basemap now and upload. If you guys don't like it we can use another.
It's the whole point of the challenge! ; ) I also agree with The Hunter that texturing is a hugely important aspect of mapping. The more I map the more important I think texturing is; a nicely textured flat wall or simple structure looks better than fancy, time-consuming world geometry in many cases.
"Captain Terror, it's your idea, so you organise it, mate =]"
oh kkk. I can make the base map, but if someone has wants to make it (Rimrook) you wouldn't have to be disqualified from the challenge: we can vote the winner from a consensus of the the participants.
I'm going to start with a really simple basemap and then we can make it more detailed as we go (you'll have to create fewer textures for the newer compos) I'll make the basemap now and upload. If you guys don't like it we can use another.
It's the same as the last one afaik! = )
A wedge doesn't come to a point like ur pyramid, but has 2 vertices at the "point" instead... like if you cut a cube in half at a 45 it would give u 2 wedges.
And Yeah, it's kind of a weird problem to understand... I guess I just got on a kick about creating shapes out of minimum number of 4-sided shapes, and at the time I thought it was a lot more interesting than it really is.
It is a good practice to play around with using the 4-sided shapes for complex geometry though: it's the cleanest, error-free way to build stuff.
For the record I don't think it's possible to build a wedge from 2 4-sided shapes, but there are other things I've felt a lot more sure of that turned out to be false. : )
A wedge doesn't come to a point like ur pyramid, but has 2 vertices at the "point" instead... like if you cut a cube in half at a 45 it would give u 2 wedges.
And Yeah, it's kind of a weird problem to understand... I guess I just got on a kick about creating shapes out of minimum number of 4-sided shapes, and at the time I thought it was a lot more interesting than it really is.
It is a good practice to play around with using the 4-sided shapes for complex geometry though: it's the cleanest, error-free way to build stuff.
For the record I don't think it's possible to build a wedge from 2 4-sided shapes, but there are other things I've felt a lot more sure of that turned out to be false. : )
A wedge has 5 sides and 6 verticies.
You built a 4-sided pyramid ( 5 sides, 5 vertices). Are you saying you can't make the wedge from those 2 4-sided forms?
You built a 4-sided pyramid ( 5 sides, 5 vertices). Are you saying you can't make the wedge from those 2 4-sided forms?
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I can make a cube using 4 4-sided blocks (3-sided pyramid or spike). In my mind it would follow I'd be able to make a wedge out of only two of these. Is it possible?
First person to prove his answer either way wins the prize! (Use a hammer source file (rmf) to prove your answer.
First person to prove his answer either way wins the prize! (Use a hammer source file (rmf) to prove your answer.
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