It's worth knowing that extracting files from the GCF's of games other than the one you are modding for is not legal.
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Talk:Mod_Content_Usage
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Well, Despite Kasperg recently leaving TWHL
I really didn't know this until just now.
On topic -
I'm going to try to vote, but there is so much to look at. I couldn't vote without seeing it all. What if I found a map I liked better after voting?
I'll try and look at everything, but I don't know if I'll have time.
I'm afraid whatever logic Blitzkreig is using here, is beyond me.
Did you miss the bit I put in bold?
Did you miss the bit I put in bold?
From the TWHL map vault:
Citizen - 115 downloads
dm_particle - 50 downloads
dm_Armazenamento - 24 downloads
dm_biological - 30 downloads
pls_fy_deak_square - 38 downloads
total number of votes in this poll - 20
The point of this post:
I wonder why more people don't vote.
Citizen - 115 downloads
dm_particle - 50 downloads
dm_Armazenamento - 24 downloads
dm_biological - 30 downloads
pls_fy_deak_square - 38 downloads
total number of votes in this poll - 20
The point of this post:
I wonder why more people don't vote.
I've downloaded this but not tried it yet. It's sitting on my memory stick. I think I'll give it a go soon.
Anyone who's played before got any handy tips for my first game?
Anyone who's played before got any handy tips for my first game?
I know it's not much of an excuse, but I was wasted when I wrote that post.
Yeah it sounds arrogant. Sorry. I didn't really mean it the way it came out.
So I apologise to anyone I've offended, and I'm going to stop talking about it...................now.
Yeah it sounds arrogant. Sorry. I didn't really mean it the way it came out.
So I apologise to anyone I've offended, and I'm going to stop talking about it...................now.
Haha, wow, things got busy in here while I slept.
I have no intention of arguing with anyone on the internet at 9.30am on Sunday.
So, thanks to everyone who has / does vote(d) for us.
I'm off for coffee and bacon.
I have no intention of arguing with anyone on the internet at 9.30am on Sunday.
So, thanks to everyone who has / does vote(d) for us.
I'm off for coffee and bacon.
Well I really don't care too much what happens here. I know that many people, including many whom I don't know personally, have spent many hours enjoying Citizen. And that's all the reward I need.
But, I think that if Citizen doesn't win this .... well Jesus. You'll have to take a long hard look at the reputation of TWHL. Because any mapper with any skill can see that Citizen is not even in the same league as it's competitors here. It's far more accomplished than all of the other contenders put together - in every way - and whether you like Citizen or not, you can't justify denying that.
But, I think that if Citizen doesn't win this .... well Jesus. You'll have to take a long hard look at the reputation of TWHL. Because any mapper with any skill can see that Citizen is not even in the same league as it's competitors here. It's far more accomplished than all of the other contenders put together - in every way - and whether you like Citizen or not, you can't justify denying that.
Hmm, I suppose I could vote for all the bits of Citizen that Kasperg made 
Haha, I only just noticed this thread.
The whole contest seems a little odd this time around to me. After all, Citizen is 16 maps. All the other entries are a single map. Doesn't that skew things any?
Just wondering.
I'm assuming that I can't vote this time.
The whole contest seems a little odd this time around to me. After all, Citizen is 16 maps. All the other entries are a single map. Doesn't that skew things any?
Just wondering.
I'm assuming that I can't vote this time.
Yeah thanks Muzz, that'll be cool.
I've got a temporary sendspace link which can be used for the old version in the meantime, if necessary. I'll put that one in the map vault.
I should be able to have the updated version up and ready by Monday. Maybe Sunday.
Shouldn't be too bad.
I should be able to have the updated version up and ready by Monday. Maybe Sunday.
Shouldn't be too bad.
The current download links will stop working pretty soon, and the updated version will be released sometime next week.
Yes, displacements are not seen by VIS and so using them to make the sloping bits is a good idea. But they can't seal your map so you must have solid walls behind them.
You can get the fps counter working by typing
cl_showfps 1
in the console.
You can get the fps counter working by typing
cl_showfps 1
in the console.
Yeah it seems that those militia bunkbeds have been copied by Valve into the ep2 stuff!
I had a look.
It's impossible to be sure without seeing the VMF, however it seems to me that you have made pretty much everything out of world brushes.
This map performs worse for me than all of the official maps, but looks no better than an original TFC map. I was in the red on the FPS counter much of the time. And that was when I was the only player. This is not good performance at all.
I'd say your long VIS time is simply caused by this being a poorly made map.
Sorry.
I suggest you load your map in Hammer, and then use the auto visgroups to turn off props, func_details, and all other entities. Then look around your map. This is how VIS sees your map (more or less). Remember - slopes are bad. Ideally, you want VIS to only see 90 degree angles.
It's impossible to be sure without seeing the VMF, however it seems to me that you have made pretty much everything out of world brushes.
This map performs worse for me than all of the official maps, but looks no better than an original TFC map. I was in the red on the FPS counter much of the time. And that was when I was the only player. This is not good performance at all.
I'd say your long VIS time is simply caused by this being a poorly made map.
Sorry.
I suggest you load your map in Hammer, and then use the auto visgroups to turn off props, func_details, and all other entities. Then look around your map. This is how VIS sees your map (more or less). Remember - slopes are bad. Ideally, you want VIS to only see 90 degree angles.
In basic terms, VIS calculates which areas of the map can be seen from which other areas. VISibility
If you don't run VIS, then every single part of your map will be rendered by the engine at all times.
Obviously, this is very bad for large maps.
I'll have a look at the map shortly.
If you don't run VIS, then every single part of your map will be rendered by the engine at all times.
Obviously, this is very bad for large maps.
I'll have a look at the map shortly.
I've never seen vis crash totally (I'm not saying it can't possibly, just that I've never actually seen it happen) but I have seen it take ridiculous amounts of time on maps which have many small visleafs. This is even more true if you're building a large outdoor map.
Recently I had a map which got to 8...9... on VIS pretty quick, but then sat at that point for almost 3 hours before finishing. I got pretty worried around the 2 hour mark, but I left it alone and eventually it finished.
I'd say that it's probable that eventually the VIS pass would finish -- but I realise you're not going to sit and wait for 10,20,30 hours for it to do so.
Vis pays no attention to textures as such, and so I doubt it's a texture problem.
How much have you optimized the map for VIS? Is it a large map? What are your 'canyons' made out of exactly, and how complex are they?
Recently I had a map which got to 8...9... on VIS pretty quick, but then sat at that point for almost 3 hours before finishing. I got pretty worried around the 2 hour mark, but I left it alone and eventually it finished.
I'd say that it's probable that eventually the VIS pass would finish -- but I realise you're not going to sit and wait for 10,20,30 hours for it to do so.
Vis pays no attention to textures as such, and so I doubt it's a texture problem.
How much have you optimized the map for VIS? Is it a large map? What are your 'canyons' made out of exactly, and how complex are they?
If you've got an internet connection on one PC, then you can share that connection with another PC (or Xbox) which is connected to the primary PC via a local network.
I've never seen an internet connection that this cannot be done with.
I've never seen an internet connection that this cannot be done with.
But the VGUI model viewer still won't work.
Yeah. Must be something like that.
I un-installed the SDK and re-downloaded it. It's still not working
I un-installed the SDK and re-downloaded it. It's still not working
There's nothing wrong with the name -- only with what you think about, when you read it.
No, it doesn't. It really doesn't.
then the voice acting fit the role wellI meant the actual guy who did the voice
heheThanks HLMapper. I'm glad you had fun, that makes it all worthwhile for me!
Another guy, in the grocery store that gets attacked, that guy just sounded weirdHe is a pretty wierd guy!
The vgui model viewer still doesn't work at all.
And almost nothing works when the ep1 fix is not applied.
And almost nothing works when the ep1 fix is not applied.
My SDK did update, but it's all the same. Everything that was broken before is still broken for me.
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Does anyone know phys items collide with displacements yet?They do if you compile with -novirtualmesh
The current state of the SDK is very irritating.
I finally realized you have to smash the door open with your crowbarNo .... although that does work to an extent, it's not the easiest solution to that area.
Thanks Habboi. 
I'm too tired to type much right now but I'll talk more about bugs and stuff tomorrow.
I'm too tired to type much right now but I'll talk more about bugs and stuff tomorrow.I'll forgive you.
But Ghetto . -game ep1 does nothing.
The fix is -engine ep1
The fix is -engine ep1
Well, I loaded it, and it updated.
The EP2 stuff seems to have disappeared, but the VGUI model viewer still crashes Hammer.
The EP2 stuff seems to have disappeared, but the VGUI model viewer still crashes Hammer.
players should be able to go back to the npcs he/she visited before and get reminders on where to goYeah, I do agree with this.
I will definately concentrate on making such reminders in the sequel!
Yeah if it won't boot in safe mode, your best bet for the most speedy recovery is a clean re-install.
There are other options, but they're much longer and more fiddly.
Good luck.
There are other options, but they're much longer and more fiddly.
Good luck.
I do think it's a bit irritating some people have reviewed it with the tone of voice that seems to suggest that they are expecting Valve quality.
We are two people with no budget.
But there have been some really nice reviews too. From people who are more objective
We are two people with no budget.
But there have been some really nice reviews too. From people who are more objective
I wanted to say that, but I've been typing too much today already
Thanks for your opinion Stider.
At least you were calm about giving it, and gave good explanations for what you were saying.
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it.
At least you were calm about giving it, and gave good explanations for what you were saying.
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it.
Yeah - some of them are hard!
Does it ever end? I've been going for ages and my lunchbreak is over in a minute!
Does it ever end? I've been going for ages and my lunchbreak is over in a minute!
Yay!
Ooh I only just saw that new review on Snark.
Seems that guy liked it
And I have no idea who he is either.
Seems that guy liked it
And I have no idea who he is either.
negative feedback is what you should be listening to.To be fair, the majority of your feedback was just you basically saying "I can't work out what to do by myself."
Which is fine.
But you seem to be in the minority, out of the people who have played it.
The triangular peg doesn't fit in the square hole !!!! omg!!!!
omg!!!!it would have been bloody immense if it had been used as the basketball hoop.Nice idea! I wonder how confused some people would have gotten about that
Pssst. Kasperg. Just after you leave Moe's store -- sniper on the fire escape
You can't please everyone all at once.
/edit, cos posts have a habit of appearing while I'm typing
We did have playtesters. 4 of them. We'd have liked more. But they're not the easiest thing to get reliable ones of.
/edit, cos posts have a habit of appearing while I'm typing
We did have playtesters. 4 of them. We'd have liked more. But they're not the easiest thing to get reliable ones of.
thats not how a player thinks.Change that to "that's not how SOME players think" and I'll agree with you.
Because some players definately do think that way.
I'd bet it's more than you think, too.
behind glass you had to break with a crowbarOr you could use a brick?
i dont know what the hell you're supposed to do, but it doesn't seem anyone has figured it out yet. i didn't see where the guard was until it said i has been spotted. it took me about 5 tries to get that because there was seemingly no connection between anything. don't make the player solve a puzzle while they're being shot at and defenseless.It's been figured out by many people. It's easy. My mind boggles why you can't work that bit out, I'm serious. The cop doesn't shoot you unless you irritate him! By "irritate" I mean "get within 10 feet of" or "damage"
make several things more obviousNo. Part of the point. Sorry if you don't like it. It's already pretty obvious that this mod wasn't made for players like you.
put in a gateway for the crowbar.There is one. You might have to backtrack for, ooh, 10 seconds if you failed to solve the previous puzzle properly. Sorry about making your feet sore.
get someone to tell you to talk to x person wearing the red shirt or something similar.I just think that would be insulting.
How obvious do you want it? Oh, I see....... :
It obviously just didn't click with you.
If you go read Phillips review on PP, you'll hear about a different perspective, from someone who appreciated what the game was really about.
And aside from that, we can all just agree to disagree.
/edit the post above wasn't there when I posted this
If you go read Phillips review on PP, you'll hear about a different perspective, from someone who appreciated what the game was really about.
And aside from that, we can all just agree to disagree.
/edit the post above wasn't there when I posted this