I am buying a new LCD this weekend. What do you guys think of this one?
The price is good, and the specs appear to be decent too.
New LCD
Created 18 years ago2006-02-18 14:30:22 UTC by
satchmo
Created 18 years ago2006-02-18 14:30:22 UTC by
satchmo
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-18 14:30:22 UTC
Post #163855
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-18 14:58:11 UTC
Post #163859
Looks good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824179014
thats the one I got, I think the specs are similar :
Youll like an lcd alot if youve had CRT for along time, wow it was a big improvement for me
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824179014
thats the one I got, I think the specs are similar :
Youll like an lcd alot if youve had CRT for along time, wow it was a big improvement for me
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-18 15:52:12 UTC
Post #163860
The Hyundai one has built-in speakers. That might be a good thing for me, because I can't use very good speakers anyway (my wife works at home).
That'll save me the trouble of getting another pair of speakers separately. I don't like to have too many things on my desktop.
I'll consider that one.
That'll save me the trouble of getting another pair of speakers separately. I don't like to have too many things on my desktop.
I'll consider that one.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-18 16:19:08 UTC
Post #163863
Thanks, Snpbond. That Hyundai one looks better than the Samsung one. I am reading more raving reviews about your monitor.
And $300 isn't that bad, considering these monitors used to sell for more than $2,000 a piece a few years ago.
I have a 15" ViewSonic LCD now (VE510+). It's plenty old. I want a bigger one. I will give the old one to my parents. They still have a 14" CRT.
And $300 isn't that bad, considering these monitors used to sell for more than $2,000 a piece a few years ago.
I have a 15" ViewSonic LCD now (VE510+). It's plenty old. I want a bigger one. I will give the old one to my parents. They still have a 14" CRT.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-18 16:53:46 UTC
Post #163864
yeah, my dad has a 15" SHARP LCD but my brother and I got these Hyundai ones, mine has a dead pixel, the very bottom left one so I never notice it but yeah, I'd recommend it, the speakers arnt much though. They sound tin'ny and there is no headphone-out jack
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Snpbond/desk.jpg
thats mine hooked up...make sure your pc can run 1280x1024 regardless what monitor you choose, games look ugly unless run at the native resolution
Anyways, happy buying
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Snpbond/desk.jpg
thats mine hooked up...make sure your pc can run 1280x1024 regardless what monitor you choose, games look ugly unless run at the native resolution
Anyways, happy buying
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-18 20:48:04 UTC
Post #163889
The most important thing when choosing an LCD monitor is the PRT, or Pixel Response Time. This is measured in milliseconds (ms). Currently, the lowest I've seen is 8 (which that monitor has). If an LCD monitor has higher than 8, you can get what's called blurring when playing games.
Also, see if the monitor comes with a warrenty for dead pixels. Some companies offer a replacement if just one pixel dies, other companies don't offer squat.
Also, see if the monitor comes with a warrenty for dead pixels. Some companies offer a replacement if just one pixel dies, other companies don't offer squat.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-18 21:16:45 UTC
Post #163895
yeah, mine was on clearance so I didnt get dead pixel guaruntee, my bro bought it retail (more $$) and got his replaced for free
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-18 21:32:12 UTC
Post #163896
The most important thing when choosing an LCD monitor is the PRT, or Pixel Response Time.I should've checked that 4 years ago when I bought my Samtron 51S. It has a response time of 25 ms which means that it displays at 40 Hz or 40 frames per second. If I connect my computer to a TV and play a game, the difference is huge
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-18 23:16:18 UTC
Post #163904
From what I read, the actual response time for the Hyundai monitor is great. Hardware experts say that never trust the response time posted by the manufacturer. The actual one might be significantly slower, especially with contrast adjustment.
For example, the actual response time for the Hyundai monitor is around 10 ms. However, for most Samsung monitors, the actual response time is around 15 to 18 ms. And there are worse monitors out there that advertise a response time of 8 ms but actually has it around 25 ms.
Tricky huh?
For example, the actual response time for the Hyundai monitor is around 10 ms. However, for most Samsung monitors, the actual response time is around 15 to 18 ms. And there are worse monitors out there that advertise a response time of 8 ms but actually has it around 25 ms.
Tricky huh?
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-18 23:37:50 UTC
Post #163905
I read somewhere that a difference such as 8-13 ms is hardly ever noticable - it's only higher amounts, around 15-25, that you should worry about.
I'm still running a trusty old DELL 19" CRT :). Works beautifully ;).
I'm still running a trusty old DELL 19" CRT :). Works beautifully ;).
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-18 23:49:36 UTC
Post #163906
CRT is fine, but it takes way too much desk space, especially when it's a 19". It also weighs a ton.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 01:58:12 UTC
Post #163913
my dads is 15ms response, I played a quick game of css on it once and didnt notice anything, but its a small monitor
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 14:20:14 UTC
Post #163970
I've got a 19" TFT, rated at 15ms or something. Nicely smoothes frames.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 14:21:34 UTC
Post #163973
Currently, the lowest I've seen is 8 (which that monitor has)Samsung got some nifty 3ms models. Samsung's LCDs are very good too.
I've got Viewsonic VA902 19" 8ms and I love it, of course it got some flaws, like it's dark colours aren't best, but on the other hand - the colour 'performance' is on CRT-level.
Btw, I wouldn't get Hyundai - I've only heard bad things about them.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 16:38:13 UTC
Post #163982
My flatscreen coming on my new computer is an 8ms response 19''
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 17:01:57 UTC
Post #163983
I have a LG Flatron(17"). I'm pretty happy with, no dead pixels and a response time of 13 ms (advertised as 12). When playing, the picture is smooth.
The warrenty sucks though, you have to have more than 3 dead pixels for a replacement.
The warrenty sucks though, you have to have more than 3 dead pixels for a replacement.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 17:20:41 UTC
Post #163984
What is a dead pixel?
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 17:33:32 UTC
Post #163985
I don't understand why people buy LCD's, except for the looks. Unless you commonly attend LAN partys or something, why does it matter how bulky and heavy your monitor is? Besides, whenever I see them in peoples houses, they have them pulled forward so far on their desk, that it wouldn't take any less room than a CRT... but that could just be me.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 17:56:41 UTC
Post #163990
I agree with Srry.
I am using a 17" normal monitor, why would you want an LCD? They have less detail and if you look at them from the sides the colours look all screwy. It like buying an electric tooth brush, what was so wrong with a normal one?
I am using a 17" normal monitor, why would you want an LCD? They have less detail and if you look at them from the sides the colours look all screwy. It like buying an electric tooth brush, what was so wrong with a normal one?
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 18:59:10 UTC
Post #164000
I have my current 15" LCD pushed all the way to the back of my desk, so I have plenty of room on my desk for reading, writing, and making clay models of devil's head.
I love the feel of a large clean desktop.
I love the feel of a large clean desktop.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 19:02:19 UTC
Post #164002
I couldnt stand a CRT after this, I agree a big part is portability but I take it with me when I go to my bros and its good for that, and the picture is alot sharper, especially when watching movies
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 19:04:32 UTC
Post #164003
Hm? Your keyboard and your mouse are like a meter apart. Long-armed are we?
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 19:20:12 UTC
Post #164009
LCDs are alot sharper than CRTs.
if you look at them from the sides the colours look all screwy.Yes, 'cause you usually look your monitor from 180' angle? ;P And if you do, you can just turn your monitor - it's pretty easy 'cause LCDs don't weight much
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 19:29:23 UTC
Post #164010
@G_Kid: a pixel that doesnt work anymore, or cant change colors from red, green or blue.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 19:53:47 UTC
Post #164012
Personally, I like how heavy my CRT is. And yes, you actually can be in situations where you need to look at the monitor from the side. What if you're standing next to somebody, looking at something on the monitor? Just like in the commercials 
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 21:00:17 UTC
Post #164014
the hyundai has very good viewing angles, 90+ degrees and you can still see it well, I''d rather have a good sharp color than a 180 degree viewing angle
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 21:04:11 UTC
Post #164015
That usually happens with Laptop screens. My tft for example has a viewing angle of 120?-140?, so I have very few problems. (Looking at a screen from even more oblicous angles than those is as bad as not seeing anything at all!)
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 21:29:16 UTC
Post #164016
@G_Kid: a pixel that doesnt work anymore, or cant change colors from red, green or blue.How is that a bad thing really? I mean how are you going to see one ludicrously small dot that doesn't work when you have so many million on your screen?
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-19 21:50:59 UTC
Post #164017
Sure its small but other times, and a lot of times, its not just one pixel but many.
Such as:
http://metalex-enterprises.net/MODEALER/MAY05/QD15XL06280505%20003.jpg
The white line is a bunch of dead pixels on the screen. This is why you gotta make sure that the comapny will take responsiblity for your faulty product, and let you refund.
And, again, why is that bad? Its a monitor that you bought for quite a lot of money, im sure you want it to be perfect, too.
Such as:
http://metalex-enterprises.net/MODEALER/MAY05/QD15XL06280505%20003.jpg
The white line is a bunch of dead pixels on the screen. This is why you gotta make sure that the comapny will take responsiblity for your faulty product, and let you refund.
And, again, why is that bad? Its a monitor that you bought for quite a lot of money, im sure you want it to be perfect, too.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-20 00:02:34 UTC
Post #164028
thats a dirty monitor...
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-20 00:17:19 UTC
Post #164031
I have a single dead pixel on my current ViewSonics, and it still bothers me sometimes.
When you have a nice wallpaper setup, you don't want to have a little black dot in the middle of a nice-looking sky.
When you have a nice wallpaper setup, you don't want to have a little black dot in the middle of a nice-looking sky.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-20 01:13:10 UTC
Post #164035
what causes a dead pixel... (Probably many years of use, you leave it on too much, or you obsesively place magnets and physically abuse your moniter.)
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-20 01:13:36 UTC
Post #164036
haha, I know what you mean, mine usually stays green -_- not really white unless its supposed to be red or something, so since the start button is green I dont see it
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-20 03:47:05 UTC
Post #164043
Sometimes you also get dead pixels when the screen is manufactured. The larger the screen, the more the chance of dead pixels.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-20 13:05:26 UTC
Post #164079
Some clearing up for coffee:
LCD - expensive.
CRT - old, clumsy.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-20 14:12:30 UTC
Post #164088
The 19" LCD I ended up buying only cost US$299, which is not that expensive.
A CRT of that size will cost $200 or so.
The difference is only a hundred dollars, and a hundred dollars won't buy you much (maybe just a fancy chassis).
A new graphics card costs more than $200, if you want anything better than a Radeon 9800 Pro.
Besides, my 9800 Pro still does everything I want it to do. So for me there's no reason to upgrade that now.
15" monitor, however, is so yesterday. I can't stand it anymore.
A CRT of that size will cost $200 or so.
The difference is only a hundred dollars, and a hundred dollars won't buy you much (maybe just a fancy chassis).
A new graphics card costs more than $200, if you want anything better than a Radeon 9800 Pro.
Besides, my 9800 Pro still does everything I want it to do. So for me there's no reason to upgrade that now.
15" monitor, however, is so yesterday. I can't stand it anymore.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-20 21:26:32 UTC
Post #164163
I noticed that the new monitor supports DVI input. I believe my Radeon 9800 Pro can output DVI signal.
My questions is: should I bother with DVI, or is analog good enough for gaming purposes?
If I want DVI input, I need to get the connection cord for it. I don't think the LCD ships with that.
My questions is: should I bother with DVI, or is analog good enough for gaming purposes?
If I want DVI input, I need to get the connection cord for it. I don't think the LCD ships with that.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-20 21:28:35 UTC
Post #164164
DVI looks better - its made especially LCD (afaik anyway).
If your LCD monitor doesn't come with a DVI cable, then it begs this statement: "WTF!?"
It should come with one, I mean, that's basic equipment.
If your LCD monitor doesn't come with a DVI cable, then it begs this statement: "WTF!?"
It should come with one, I mean, that's basic equipment.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-20 21:49:09 UTC
Post #164170
yeah, DVI all the way my monitor came with both, but you can run 2 pcs on it, one VGA and one DVI
my monitor came with both, but you can run 2 pcs on it, one VGA and one DVI
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-21 01:06:52 UTC
Post #164200
"A new graphics card costs more than $200, if you want anything better than a Radeon 9800 Pro."
Not true, I bought an AGP nVidia GeForce 6800 for about $160, and that was like 6 months ago.
Not true, I bought an AGP nVidia GeForce 6800 for about $160, and that was like 6 months ago.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-21 06:55:20 UTC
Post #164216
Yeah, some people just buy at the wrong place.
On a lighter note: CRT to teh win!
Its nice to be able to carry it around without worrying that it will suddenly break. Really, those lcd's looks really vulnereble. I'd rather go with a beamer then a LCD.
On a lighter note: CRT to teh win!
Its nice to be able to carry it around without worrying that it will suddenly break. Really, those lcd's looks really vulnereble. I'd rather go with a beamer then a LCD.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-21 07:02:12 UTC
Post #164217
Still, I'd bet that if you dropped them, the LCD would come out less damaged than the CRT, just because of the sheer weight of the thing. There's got to be a video of that somewhere on the web, right?
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-21 08:25:48 UTC
Post #164221
I doubt a lcd would survive me banging with a brick on it for a hour or so.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-21 14:41:19 UTC
Post #164288
doubt a lcd would survive me banging with a brick on it for a hour or so.And a CRT would?
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-21 15:37:13 UTC
Post #164302
CRT is worse for your eyes, worse for your desk. I should get a new and bigger LCD since I use a lot of image-processing and design software. Unfortunately, I dont have a job, and my computer needs other upgrades [whispers]Kasperg still uses a Geforce 4 ti 4200 :o![/whispers]
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-21 16:57:40 UTC
Post #164314
And a CRT would?Just what I was thinking..
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-22 06:36:32 UTC
Post #164408
DVI vs. VGA thing: depends on the monitor. Doesn't make a noticable difference on mine, but it may on some.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-22 08:05:13 UTC
Post #164431
Yes it would, apart from the cracks.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-22 11:49:42 UTC
Post #164469
I don't really think that beating-endurance is a selling point of monitors for the majority of people, pepper.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-22 14:56:18 UTC
Post #164522
I don't really think that beating-endurance is a selling point of monitors for the majority of people, pepper.Perhaps that's how he conducts a "video stress test".
My new LCD arrived yesterday. Unfortunately, it has a single dead pixel (blue) near the bottom of the screen. The warranty doesn't cover replacement unless there are more than 10 dead pixels.
However, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the monitor did ship with a DVI cable. So that's the setup right now. Personally, I can't tell the difference between DVI and analog, but that's fine.
By the way, half way through composing my post, the power went out in the medical building. So I had to re-type the whole thing.
Annoying as hell.
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