Defense - Offense = Forts! Created 18 years ago2006-04-20 06:17:59 UTC by Psycho

First of all, I would like to say hello!

I are the one who is working with Habboi on that Epic Rising thing

Ok, so here is an idea for a map which I am going to attempt.

Begin Idea

Generally speaking many maps give balance of both offensive and defensive positions but lets say we took away the offensive side and what are we left with? A fort of course. Camper's Heaven!

"WTF?", you might ask, "Campes are noobs. Your giving them exactly what they want!". That's where a stroke of genius comes in (Me thinks lol).

Let's say you have several spawn points on a map that when spawned upon define what "Class" a player ends up in.

http://www.castles.org/Kids_Section/Castle_Story/images/kidcastle1.jpg

As you can see, there some little rooms going all around the castle with roofs on top and windows above the curtain wall.

This is where riflemen go. Ak47s for Terrorists and M4a1s for Counter-Terrorists.

At each corner there is a tower.

Snipers go here.

"Where is this all leading?". Simple. Each team has their own fort complete with bombs attached! Oh, and a nice shiny button near the fort's entrance. See where I'm going?

The objective is for each team to destroy each other's fort. But, it is somewhat suicidal and requires teamwork.

One person must push the button on the opposing enemy's fort. Succesfully doing so, wins said person the game! And they will be rewarded in a nice display of debris flying through the air complete with corpses

And to add more destruction, walls can be weakened by rocks from trebuchets which are found by the moats but are well hidden. Rocks go flying into the opposing enemy's wall causes them to crumble down, catching the enemy to be caught with their trousers down. Naturally.

I don't actually know how much of this is possible in Source but the least I can do is try

I'll get some screenshots up soon of the beginning of the main architecture for the fort.

sounds cool

Hello to you!
I am also a psycho, therefore, I salute you.

Your idea sounds cool INDEED

Hm and you can thank me for the catapults

Aye, I thank Habboi for them

I've done some more on the architect so I'll post some screenshots today but don't be put off by the little amount of work I've done it so far

Hm and you can thank me for the catapults

And you can thank HL2world for the turorial. :>

Lol. He didn't mention that on MSN, I can assure you.

If you manage to pull this off, i'd be amazed. Sounds very cool, though would definately need a large amount of players to be fun.

Indeed. I found a tut of Hl2 World (Thanks Madcow for reminding me that it exists) to achieve the crumbling wall feature

Um, i would assume you'd use func_physblocks?

No problem fellow psycho!

sound really really cool

And you can thank HL2world for the turorial. :>

False.

i like the sound of this

Hm and you can thank me for the catapults

Maybe you could make a hammer equivelent of the trebuchet-style catapult i showed you how to make in gmod? That'd be good for this sort of map.

so this is what you need models for

[offy]
M0ppeN: U swedish?

Sounds like an aw_ or whatever it is called map with a twist. Nice idea, might cater well with the majority of CS players.

yes am a swede

Well, I could use physboxes but I would like the debris to remain there

I tried that explosion tutorial on Hl2World but it doesn't work

Hmmm... this doesnt sound so good, if you have few players on the level one sniper in a tower will just kill everything, unless you have precise tactical co-ordination which you ARNT going to get from the average CSS player.

On the other hand, this could work quite well as perhaps a Co-op or large team based level. Trapping players inside structures (like in a window or in a tower) means they are going to get bored very fast.

True. I never said they would be able to leave throught other means. Aka a back door

Here's those screenshots I promised. Yes I know, not much is done because of testing physics and such but meh, I promised I would put some up.

I'm thinking that this could be me much suited to hl2dm then css. Any thoughts?

I imagine the castle to be bigger.

It shall be.

Nice architecture...I'm sure it will be a valuable maop to the teams collection mwuaha.

Ty

I might base the whole castle of this now.

http://www.kottke.org/plus/photos/200105europe/castle.jpg

So, erm, yeah. Check for more screenshots later

Looking better and better.

Question: What is that statue man in the picture doing to those mini statue men?

Rofl, didn't notice that

Anyway, fixed all my crappy brush work up so none of it collides or doesn't fit properly. Screenies tommorow

Ar you could make it like unreal tournament and have the attacking team go through checkpoints, like entrance, bridge point, then like basement, and then press a button.

I think you'll agree it's starting to look like a castle of some sort now

I love that last picture...Has the feeling of a daunting castle.
The tower is looking good and the windows...Heh I am just thinking how you made them that shape...

Maybe you should make a .gif of that broken wall showing the workings of it.

I should

I'll try and sort the mechanics of it all later.

Here's a rough plan of the whole map that I drew last night (at midnight)

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6995/planpoo7cn.gif

For the slit windows I just clipped the wall until I had a rectangle which I could clip the windows out of.

Same goes for the bricks out of the wall. (Technique I stole from you lol)