Where do you draw the line when it comes to violent video games?
I only ask because we are entering an age of photo-realistic graphics where VR could make games feel as real as.. well.. reality.
There is no doubt that games of this level of realism will arrive in the near future, and I am wondering whether you feel they should include guns.. and just about any other features of modern games...
"The Line"
Created 18 years ago2006-05-13 19:09:24 UTC by
Archie
Created 18 years ago2006-05-13 19:09:24 UTC by
Archie
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-13 19:09:24 UTC
Post #179865
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-13 19:17:52 UTC
Post #179867
Hmm.
Interesting subject. I think that things shall stay pretty much the same.
Becuase at the moment, when you shoot someone in most games, you just see a red bullet wound on their person and some blood splatter.
And with better graphics and better computers etc. I think most games will just stay like that, with better graphics, but pretty much just keeping the same amount of gore.
Though I think there will be more games like Soldier Of Fortune who capitalise on better graphics to make it uber gorey, but they will be the minority.
Interesting subject. I think that things shall stay pretty much the same.
Becuase at the moment, when you shoot someone in most games, you just see a red bullet wound on their person and some blood splatter.
And with better graphics and better computers etc. I think most games will just stay like that, with better graphics, but pretty much just keeping the same amount of gore.
Though I think there will be more games like Soldier Of Fortune who capitalise on better graphics to make it uber gorey, but they will be the minority.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-13 19:20:56 UTC
Post #179868
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-13 19:38:06 UTC
Post #179869
Meh, games don't influence people. Unless you've got serious mental deficiencies, you can differ between games and reality.
Also, no matter how realistic graphics will become, games will only touch 2 senses, unless someone invents some ?ber-cool machine that can illude the sense of feeling, tasting and smelling aswell. It's just not enough to become completely immersed in the game with only sound and visuals.
I draw no line. The responsibility lies within the parents to keep their kids from getting mentally disturbed.
Also, no matter how realistic graphics will become, games will only touch 2 senses, unless someone invents some ?ber-cool machine that can illude the sense of feeling, tasting and smelling aswell. It's just not enough to become completely immersed in the game with only sound and visuals.
I draw no line. The responsibility lies within the parents to keep their kids from getting mentally disturbed.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-13 19:58:16 UTC
Post #179872
I agree with everything ZL said.
Also, you really have to be out of your mind to consider treating RL like video games would be treated. I mean really out there man...
Also, you really have to be out of your mind to consider treating RL like video games would be treated. I mean really out there man...
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-13 19:59:22 UTC
Post #179873
my line starts being drawn at animal violence and stuff.. like im good with human limbs being blown off.. intestines everywhere.. but if you kill like a dog or something with the same level of violence.. eh.. its just not cool.
i agree with orpheus about the parenting issue. so thats basically my POV also
i agree with orpheus about the parenting issue. so thats basically my POV also
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-13 20:03:12 UTC
Post #179874
Quake 4 draws the line for me. They took gore way too far in that game, and it made me not want to play it in bulk as i usually do with games.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-13 21:57:38 UTC
Post #179889
Captain P got it spot on - its not the games, its the parents. Plain and simple.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-13 22:01:59 UTC
Post #179890
Games are for entertainment purpouse only, has nothing what so ever to do with real life, unless you fancy running around killing people that is. But if youre one of them i suggest enlisting into the army. Or starting by killing yourself 
PS: there are smell printers out on the marked allready. And theres vibrators in joysticks and stuff. so... yea.
PS: there are smell printers out on the marked allready. And theres vibrators in joysticks and stuff. so... yea.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-14 01:33:00 UTC
Post #179914
Does the joystick vibrate in Vice City when you open the hooker-sex easter egg?
anyway, I think that as long as video games don;'t cause you to do anything bad, it's fine. I don't care how violent they are, really. Most of the stuff I shoot in games are just aleins anyway.
anyway, I think that as long as video games don;'t cause you to do anything bad, it's fine. I don't care how violent they are, really. Most of the stuff I shoot in games are just aleins anyway.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-14 06:24:43 UTC
Post #179944
i need to turn done my joystick vibrate - it scares me... i swear one day it will vibrate off my desk!!
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-14 06:45:40 UTC
Post #179947
lets stop talking about vibrating joysticks. Now, please.
You say its the parents responsibility, but a large ammount of parents couldnt control their kids properly if their life depended on it...
Chavs and NEDs must have some pretty dumb parents
You say its the parents responsibility, but a large ammount of parents couldnt control their kids properly if their life depended on it...
Chavs and NEDs must have some pretty dumb parents
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-14 07:05:04 UTC
Post #179951
Well, if you can't control your kids, you've failed. Miserably if they become a chav.
It'll be the whip for my kids.
It'll be the whip for my kids.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-14 07:19:31 UTC
Post #179954
Films became extremely gory and realistic even before videogames had more than 16 colors.
Games can become more gory as far as I'm concerned (I felt the gibs were missing in HL2), just as long as they have an M rating.
Part of the population still thinks that every videogame and every animation movie is for kids, which all of you know is far from the truth. If we can get people to understand that concept, parents will think twice before buying certain games or even buying hardware for their kids.
You say a lot of parents can't control their kids properly... There a lot of ways to control access to a PC or a console, at least in your own home.
I sort of feel lucky to have been born two decades ago. I had the chance to play with these before videogames and PCs became our everyday machines.
Games can become more gory as far as I'm concerned (I felt the gibs were missing in HL2), just as long as they have an M rating.
Part of the population still thinks that every videogame and every animation movie is for kids, which all of you know is far from the truth. If we can get people to understand that concept, parents will think twice before buying certain games or even buying hardware for their kids.
You say a lot of parents can't control their kids properly... There a lot of ways to control access to a PC or a console, at least in your own home.
I sort of feel lucky to have been born two decades ago. I had the chance to play with these before videogames and PCs became our everyday machines.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-14 10:05:45 UTC
Post #179978
I believe kids still play with those 
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Posted 18 years ago2006-05-14 10:44:40 UTC
Post #179982
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-14 17:43:20 UTC
Post #180066
anyone hear about the bill some government wants to bass to ban all un-educational videogaming??
its absurd
its absurd
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-14 21:02:00 UTC
Post #180090
People make movies with gore a lot more realistic than video game gore. Enter movies like Dawn of the Dead. I'd probably have to draw the line at....... well, never! Realism = win as long as you are sane enough to realize that its JUST A GAME.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-14 21:20:06 UTC
Post #180097
Line? PSSSSSH
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-14 22:19:26 UTC
Post #180116
anyone hear about the bill some government wants to bass to ban all un-educational videogaming??I haven't heard about it, but it may not be here in america. Anyone who thinks that wouldn't be unconstitiutional is a dumbass
its absurd
I would draw a line at one point. Random, gory shooting of people I don't mind, but if video games ever go the direction of movies like Hostel with large amounts of extreme cruelty and torture, I'm avoiding those games like the plauge.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 02:21:57 UTC
Post #180145
Worth noticing:
If the games makes it all the way to "photorealistic" it will probably be no worse than watching an action movie,,, it's just that you're in it.
If the games makes it all the way to "photorealistic" it will probably be no worse than watching an action movie,,, it's just that you're in it.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 08:29:12 UTC
Post #180171
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 08:39:18 UTC
Post #180172
Its entertainment, to each their own and if your children are affected by them you really shouldnt have let them play the bloody thing now. I dont really see a line, yes I would be extremely offended and angry at a game approaching something like murder of children, paedophilia or other extremely taboo subjects in society, but they will never be made or allowed to be publicly released.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 09:23:48 UTC
Post #180180
game responisvely. like alcohol, and drugs, and everything else thats good for ya. Too much of a good thing is bad. Same can be said about graphics. Sure its nice and all, but photorealistic gore for a young kid can be traumatizing. And all this has been said.
parents nowadays piss me off. I saw a lady on the bus yell at her little crying boy to "shut the fuck up you're giving me a headache!" while all the kid wanted was to be held since the bus was moving. (highest grade in parenting class
)
I think everyone needs a dose of responisibility with the power we can behold in this day and age. Even for developers with the gore and realism. Even if they target older audiences.
parents nowadays piss me off. I saw a lady on the bus yell at her little crying boy to "shut the fuck up you're giving me a headache!" while all the kid wanted was to be held since the bus was moving. (highest grade in parenting class
)I think everyone needs a dose of responisibility with the power we can behold in this day and age. Even for developers with the gore and realism. Even if they target older audiences.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 09:38:13 UTC
Post #180183
some parents really are fuckwits.
Oh and Rimrook, i beleive you mean "game responsibly"
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 09:46:19 UTC
Post #180186
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 09:51:08 UTC
Post #180188
A lot of shops sell me 18+ games when i clearly look younger than my own age....
Games like F.E.A.R, Farenheit and TS2 have all passed through the checkout and into my shopping bag.
Games like F.E.A.R, Farenheit and TS2 have all passed through the checkout and into my shopping bag.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 09:55:25 UTC
Post #180191
As far as games with pedophilia and other such examples, those are moot because they would never make it into production so even expressing them as a potential line is sorta redundant.Did you read my post?
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 10:01:03 UTC
Post #180195
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 10:18:34 UTC
Post #180200
My mind doesnt think very much
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 10:19:29 UTC
Post #180201
your sarcasm generators take up an immensely large part of your brain
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 10:20:10 UTC
Post #180202
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 10:20:51 UTC
Post #180203
your sarcasm generators take up an immensely large part of your brainGo hunnybuns!
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 10:30:51 UTC
Post #180205
This forum is full of so much sycophantism, self congratulation, excessive quoting and sin
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 10:32:52 UTC
Post #180207
No, TWHL is full of too much jobabob.
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 10:54:02 UTC
Post #180209
there can never be too much jobabob, too much strider though and we'd have to rename the site TWA*
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 11:05:32 UTC
Post #180211
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 11:47:07 UTC
Post #180217
my thoughts exactly (see previous post about thoughts)
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 11:48:48 UTC
Post #180219
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 12:48:06 UTC
Post #180241
I like big wurds, they makes me sound clevar
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 12:56:39 UTC
Post #180246
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-15 15:46:40 UTC
Post #180294
Indubitably!
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