New Mod: "Turnstile" Created 18 years ago2006-01-31 15:05:49 UTC by Rimrook

three minutes?
that'd take me like 20.
school is more important than twhl and hammer and all this other stuff, but maybe those drawing classes will give inspiration for new textures or something

Yeah, i like my schedule.

especially CA2201: Texture and Material 1.

Looking good, textures are a tab bit much stretched on the left though, might need some work.

FYI: its not a serious map. it'll get scrapped later.

I found a way to cut the polies in half.

lol, tell now!

Random impressions fromp playing the new demo:

(Please excuse some of thes questins/comments If they've already beend addressed, since I haven't been consistently keeping up with this thread)

I love the new animations and new weapons...really great. However, I notice the lighting on them looks superb in light areas, and completely black in many others. Is there anyway to make certain parts of the weapon glow, even when your in dark areas? (more probably, the only way to fix this would to make the lighting more even/brighter)

Tracer bullets work great in some rooms, like the Gargy room, but totally don't in others. Is this because of the lighting or something?

I don't like how you have to jump to go through the small, white secret cooridors. If fact, playing the demo last time, I never knew you could walk through them! [/iamtard]

I like the dreary, dark--emo lol :)--theme of the map, but it wears after a while, though I have no idea what areas you could brighten, and have them still fit.

Maybe instead, Start the game off in a very brigtly lit space ship, and then you beam down, or crash, or get sucked in somehow to the turnstile world ala metroid

Add more user controled doodads like that retractable bridge at the end...that pwnned all Maybe some metroid-like "chargers" that when you step on them, they move somehow, like from Zero Mission. Of course, you could add the ol' rimrook creativity to the process, so people wouldn't think you were copying.

Great work, keep it up!

Yeah most of that has been addressed except the part about more user interactions with the environment, which is kinda no-use since the original demo map isn't part of the game. There will be plenty to do in the actual game.

I've been doing some prop modelling, so i can now do really intricately designed doors, gadgets, and doodads to fit the map in kinad this metroid-esque style, only not... if you know what i mean.

The Poly-cut method has to do with only the plant models. Instead of using a flat plane with a picture on it for the leaves, i used 1 large triangle poly. It takes 2 polies to make a square normally. I cut some of the bushes from 20 to 10 this way. its really basic and simple.

Very little progress at the moment.

progress is progress

tr00.

But i never freaked out as bad as i did this morning.

After trying the Arrange Mode mapper edition demo thing, it crashed everything. So i hit up the config and dumbed-down all of the fancy stuff. It was still crashy but i managed to get around. Because it was in spanglish, i didn't know to press the USE key on the guns. I figured it out finally and it locked up HL. I tried it again and HL would freeze on the title screen. I tried my mod and it did the same. I rebooted and it continued. I. Freaked. Out. That meant that mapping, modding, and everything HL would cease to exist. But i remembered i got steam going, so i tried that. But steam had an odd error with my net connection! I was fucked at this point. So i copied the content from Arrange mode to a new folder (for possible ripping later) and deleted the mod. I ran HL and it still didn't work! I rebooted and it was fixed. But i don't think i'll be getting arrange mode when it comes out.

So yeah... no progress at all because of that. sorry.

I'll be modelling like crazy with props and such. So i'm taking requests. I'll make an ad from my journal in a moment.

ripping? and you hate arrange mode because it locks up when you run in won, altough you were adviced that it would only run into steam. what the hell...

It locks up in steam too if you read.

thats not supposed to happen, Rim, your DLL's are probably corrupted or something.

painkiller, do you not know how to set up a mod properly? there should have been no reason to tie your mod into the original HL DIR. no matter what it ended up corupting somethings wrong now.

Rim, If you want I can zip up and send you my HL install to see if it fix's it

woah.. THAT could've been bad.
and what's arrange mode?

it is not my mod, learn to read properly before misjudging.

i downloaded it, extratec in hl directory and all went fine...

HL runs fine now, but i feel bad about it messing up now. like i know it'll comeback to kill me later.

I could use a HL install anyway, i no longer have a disc for won-hl and all of the new discs in the stores install to steam.

I made very little progress. I sketched some props and that's all.

Woah I'm staying clear of Arrange Mode because the data on my PC is not worth losing.

well arrange mode is a high-end HL1 mod. It has some physics and other dynamic stuff implemented. Some of the features of it bog my comp down, but it might not on yours. Don't let me scare you, i think its worth the look.

all of the new discs in the stores install to steam.

OMG how gay!!1

You could delete the local HL content in steam, then refresh/redownload it to renew it.

true, but that doesn't help help with WON-HL unless someone has or could find the original install.

its no big deal. fixeez.

i have the original WON install disc. i can mail it to you lol
it came with the adrenaline pack

we should mirror a download for it, erm... well, somehow so we wouldn't get in trouble

post one of those "only download if you have the original disc and CD key"
that's what those emulator sites have
(not that i download roms anyhow)

Seventh(if you're watching): Can we do that?

its no big deal.

Yeah, but it would be useful for other people too, fighting the naziism of Steam everywhere :P...

VIVA LA PROLETARIAT! ^_^

Rim, all you would need to do is get the Dll's and exe from one of us, I dought a mod can screw up the games original resources.

and if you have the steam version, you can always copy those resources from the steam GCF if they got screwed up

and im guessing what happened was arange mode tired to use detail textures or something that WON doesn't support

M_gargantua is right. and i'll repeat this until all the universe (?) understands. arrange mode is not for won, it only works in steam.

ah man, i can't wait! This is one mod i can't wait to play!
release another demo! Like a test map with all the weapons and such!

Rim, still need a fixed HL WON install?

Believe it or not, i tried it on steam. It was worse.

@M_Garg: I don't need the install.

Thanks for all of the nice offers everyone. I seem to be fine for the moment. This mod is still going!

Arrange Mode probably messed up some temporary hl setting files. That's likely why it messed a few things up.

Any news about Turnstile at that moment? o_O

I guess there isn't any progress because rimrook doesn't have Hl1 for now. I still have the disk so I might be able to help you rimrook.

You could just "borrow" it from the internet... Somehow...

There's no turny at the moment cuz my drive crashed.

...and i have no disc to install hl1. it'll be a while until i have a working comp. but hey, you guys r0k, hold onto those generous offers though!

hey rimrook,its the guy on msn and i can definatly give you some kickass textures.i think ive got the solution to your problem btw,c ya

turnstile died? wtf?

No, turny isn't dead. just delayed for a few months. 'tis sux.

oh man tis does sux harc0re

Turnstile source

Omg that would be the saIx

mmmmm..... its possible. I shopped around and found a laptop very affordable that can run Lost coast on the maximum detail and screen resolution, and still be able to run web radio wirelessly.

in the zwn!

build one yourself rim, more power for the price

id even walk you through it

Turnstile Source would have to come after Turnstile i think...

HL2 would support Turny more readily and support the features better maybe.

One note - after master hl2 texturing you ready for work with any current game engine - hi res textures and opacity/specular/normal maps, cubemaps and refract/reflect/blended materials ... some body kill me, i tired spent whole day for creating just one 1024x1024 photorealistic texture

Let the controversy begin.

Is this 3D studio? It looks nice, specially the plant models and the water.

Very Beautiful..

that is awesome.

I just had an idea, what if you moddeled your map, put the parts modeled inside a box, and use clip brushs to simulate accuall floors and stuff.

that would look so good for HL1

Brilliant! I will criticise it mind...No matter how good something looks you must say something bad...The waterfalls...On the sides I see they are rather solid...If you animated it then forget this line but otherwise if possible you should make the sides invisible and show the front.

For a few seconds I thought you made that for HL1...Or possibly Source...If you had Source or mapped for it then I'm sure you could make that easily...Then I'd be amazed.

That's much like mapping for Unreal Tournament. A majority of the maps are Static Meshes, and the rest is one basic walls and displacements.

Its a very nice and effective way of mapping. What i had found out is HL1 HAS NO MODEL POLY COUNT LIMIT! I cranked it up to 32,000 polies playing with those trees on the previous page. I built a jungle! This kind of mapping is uncommon due with HL for the lack of a huge variety of available models. There is not a model for everything.

Another thing is for someone to code a plugin to allow the limits of a normal HL1 map to be so much higher and be more readily drawn by hardware acceleration.