Leaks without Fullbright? Created 17 years ago2007-04-22 20:45:02 UTC by satchmo

I just realized that it's possible to compile a map with leaks without having it come out fullbright.

I used to believe that's impossible, but it's true.

Yeah, in Source, as long as you have some light entity, the map won't be fullbright, leak or not.

I think that's a bad idea.

It doesn't alert the mapper of the presence of a leak.

A real mapper would read through the compile log to check. ;P

I don't read through the compile log every time I compile.

I compile several times a day when I map. That'd take forever.

Source compile logs are substantially longer than GoldSrc logs, aren't they? Whenever, I need to read a compile log, I can usually just scan over it and immediately find the error.

you just need to look for error messages in the log, they are pretty obvious. the logs aren't long at all.

Whenever, I need to read a compile log, I can usually just scan over it and immediately find the error.

Yeah, that's all you need to do really.

I do glance at the screen during the compile process.

If I see that it skips through light bounce calculation, I know something's wrong.

If the compile time and the BSP are reasonable, plus there's no error message at the end of the log, I assume all is well.

Just noclip out of the map. In GoldSrc, you will always see the void as HOM, but in Source, HOM will only be present if there is a leak. You can also enter "mat_wireframe 1" into the console and see if VIS is blocking anything.

If you have a leak, VIS will not run, which is a pretty good tip off in the compile log, too

wow, you just noticed this?

If you have a leak, water will not render, cubemaps will go funny and you will have considerably worse r_speeds.

Well, Kasperg was right.

There was a leak in dm_detritus.

I have fixed it already.

The water did render, but in a strange way.

I did not build cubemaps for this map, because it doesn't enhance the aesthetics that much for this map. The only thing it'll do is jack up the rendering burden.

The framerate was surprisingly unaffected by the leak. But the lighting (with light bounce) looks a great deal better with a properly compiled version.