Large Hadron Collider: New Crazy Theory

Tito

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 15:14:42 UTC Post #274610

The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) has been on a slow repair status since last year after it apparently suffered an "accidental" breakdown. Well, it seems that something very strange is at foot concerning the real cause of last year's breakdown.

This whole thing with the LHC is turning in to a real "X-File" case, according to what some scientists are saying about the reasons it broke down in the first place. I am not going to get in to details here, it's just too fantastic on what they are trying to say.

Once you click on the link and start reading the report, please pay very close attention in particular to the 2nd. paragraph, it's key to the incredible explanation they are giving on what really happened to the LHC:

The Collider, the Particle and a Theory About Fate

Additional source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568528,00.html?test=latestnews

Tito

SpaG

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 15:27:25 UTC Post #274612

More conspiracy theories? Please.

SpaG

Saribous

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 15:28:00 UTC Post #274613

That's strange to say the least, but I'm sure there's a more rational explanation to it than time travelling particles.

I believe in a lot of things, but time travel is one thing I just can't believe. I understand that time isn't linear and can be distorted, but travelling through it, especially backwards? Nah, it just doesn't fly with me

Interesting read nontheless, nice find Tito.

Saribous

Soup Miner

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 15:32:39 UTC Post #274614

That's a pretty bold statement to say the very least.

Soup Miner

Luke

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 15:38:41 UTC Post #274615

While it is a paradox to go back in time and kill your grandfather, physicists agree there is no paradox if you go back in time and save him from being hit by a bus.

I love quantum physics.

LukeLuke

Soup Miner

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 15:47:33 UTC Post #274617

While it is a paradox to go back in time and kill your grandfather, physicists agree there is no paradox if you go back in time and save him from being hit by a bus.

Any multiverse theory fixes this problem as well.

Soup Miner

Notewell

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 15:55:12 UTC Post #274620

In December, if all goes well, protons will start smashing together in an underground racetrack outside Geneva in a search for forces and particles that reigned during the first trillionth of a second of the Big Bang.

It's not an Anti-mass spectrometer, so I'm not too worried.
Of course, should a resonance cascade happen, that means City 17 will be in Canada.

NotewellGIASFELFEBREHBER

Striker

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 16:00:44 UTC Post #274622

If you stay and think for a while, you can guess all this naughty playing with unknown facts and science that's not well understood is like a child that plays with matches in a garage with a gasoline wet floor.
I hope the higgs particles will destroy LHC once and for all :D. And then humanity can focus on space traveling which is much more important in our times than playing with dangerous technologies.

StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure

Soup Miner

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 16:14:29 UTC Post #274623

Fun fact, Striker: The nearest mass outside of the solar system of still hundreds of thousands of lightyears away. For the record that means that, traveling at light speed, it would take hundreds of thousands of years to reach the nearest mass. So there's really no point in developing space travel technology that uses 3D space with masses outside of the solar system in mind.

The only way to get to these distant places [efficiently] is to distort space time or otherwise influence higher dimensions outside of 3D space. And that's one of the many things they're researching with the LHC.

Soup Miner

Striker

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 16:17:31 UTC Post #274624

It's not about traveling to distant galaxies, it's about moving space. Something like warp-drive.

Nostradamus predicted the future until 3000 an I don't know how much after that, but he also says dangerous things about this experiment.
Let's face it : we don't know what kind of power Nostradamus had, but everything he said turned out to be true.

StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure

Soup Miner

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 16:23:51 UTC Post #274625

A warp drive would distort space time instead of relying on moving really, really fast through 3D space. And that's what I'm saying, you can only travel through space so fast, but you can move even "faster" if you are able to influence other things.
How do you propose we develop such technologies if we don't... develop them...?

Soup Miner

ChickenFist

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 16:24:48 UTC Post #274626

Let's face it : we don't know what kind of power Nostradamus had, but everything he said turned out to be true.

Not really. There's just a bunch of dubious interpretations. To quote Wikipedia:

There is no evidence in the academic literature to suggest that any Nostradamus quatrain has ever been interpreted as predicting a specific event before it occurred, other than in vague, general terms that could equally apply to any number of other events.

ChickenFist<Witty Title>

Striker

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 16:45:26 UTC Post #274627

How do you propose we develop such technologies if we don't... develop them...?

I think our top priority is avoiding risks of damaging our only(yet) home that keeps us alive. Look, the problem is scientists don't have patience. We could have built this LHC on Mars(maybe 10 generations away from us). Sounds stupid ? Who the hell gives those scientists the right of risking our environment ?

StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure

Tito

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 16:46:40 UTC Post #274628

I rather not rely on Nostradamu's predictions or their interpretations there of.

Tito

Striker

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 16:52:11 UTC Post #274629

Luck you Tito, I was editing my message.

As I was saying, scientists are trying to do all way to fast and this is bad. We haven't conquered our Solar Sytem yet and we want to travel to other galaxies. Facepalm, actualy the single celestial object that has been walked by man is the moon.

Ok let's put it simple. It's like you're forced by somebody to hammer a nail into your head, in the middle. Chances are the nail won't hit the brain, but those chances are small. The other chance, hitting the brain and provoking instant death are translated as RISKS. So yes, we're all force to take part at this experiment, we either survive or we either face the risks.

StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure

Jessie

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 17:18:34 UTC Post #274633

I don't see why people don't trust those scientists. They have more understanding of what they're doing than the people against the LHC do.
Also, Nostradamus is an idiot.

EDIT: And taking risks is what life is. If we don't sometimes take risks as a whole human population, we'll never advance.

EDIT2: And why not start looking into traveling to other galaxys? Our solar system, as we so far know it, has shit all in it apart from us. If we want to find something interesting out there, we have to go WAY further.

We haven't conquered our Solar Sytem yet

What is there to conquer, really?

JessieTrans Rights <3

Notewell

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 17:31:02 UTC Post #274635

Huge balls. Of gas.

Also, they're doing a dangerous experiment in December 2009. (200X)
I only trust them as much as I'd trust G-man.

NotewellGIASFELFEBREHBER

Daubster

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 17:47:22 UTC Post #274637

The Collider, the Particle and a Theory About Fate

TONIGHT ON FOX NEWS.. IS THE LHC MOLESTING YOUR CHILDRENS?!

t's like you're forced by somebody to hammer a nail into your head, in the middle. Chances are the nail won't hit the brain, but those chances are small. The other chance, hitting the brain and provoking instant death are translated as RISKS. So yes, we're all force to take part at this experiment, we either survive or we either face the risks.

What on earth makes you think a bad outcome of the experiment is as inevitable as brain damage from a nail hammered into your skull? Also, this being a multi-billion international project and all, do you actually think all those phDs conducting are that helpless, yet willing to push the experiment forward? If the danger of this vaporizing the Solar System were as big as you're depicting, none of it would be funded in the first place. Silly superstitious assumptions are silly.

DaubsterVault Dweller

Penguinboy

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 17:55:13 UTC Post #274638

There's nothing dangerous about the LHC. Do some research before you talk, striker.

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

monster_urby

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 20:04:32 UTC Post #274644

As a well known scientist once said: "Now now, if you follow standard insertion procedures, everything will be fine."

Wait... what?

monster_urbyGoldsourcerer

Notewell

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 20:11:57 UTC Post #274645

To reply, I will repeat:

It's not an Anti-mass spectrometer, so I'm not too worried.
Of course, should a resonance cascade happen, that means City 17 will be in Canada.

NotewellGIASFELFEBREHBER

TheGrimReafer

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 20:31:17 UTC Post #274646

Nostradamus predicted the future

No he did not. He wrote vague shit down in a journal and let people interpret it how they wanted. If he was truly as awesome as people think he is, he could mention specifics.

If he was so great at 'judicial astrology', then why isn't it a credible source of information today? Even a hobbyist would've stumbled upon it by now if it was a trustworthy source of information.

Superstitious shit is all it is >_>

TheGrimReaferADMININATOR

Tito

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 20:40:58 UTC Post #274648

There's nothing dangerous about the LHC.

I agree with you. But as true as that might be, I can't help but to wonder what would happen to me if I would be standing inside the main acceleration tube while the LHC is turned on full power. Would I be turned in to the Hulk?....or in to Dr. Manhattan with blue pennies and all?....or would I just simply be vaporized Star Trek style?

Oh yea, the possibilities are endless......

Tito

Notewell

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 20:46:19 UTC Post #274649

Hopefully nobody will ever find out what it would to do a living being.

NotewellGIASFELFEBREHBER

saw1833

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 21:06:20 UTC Post #274650

Okay, if Nostradamus predicted the future correctly, then we can't do shit to stop them from toying with the LHC anyway. If he DIDN'T predict the future, then who the fuck cares anyway? Whatever happens, happens. By intervening we'd only be causing ourselves grief.
Now... shut the fuck up and grab some popcorn!

Also, as far as the break down, shit happens. Do you think if I built a new car from scratch, my own ideas, my own parts, that it'd work the first time around? Maybe, but unlikely.

saw1833

Soup Miner

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 21:18:08 UTC Post #274651

That's probably the worst analogy I've ever seen. I'm not even lying.

Soup Miner

Rimrook

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 23:03:37 UTC Post #274652

What's not dangerous about a proton with 3.5 trillion elections strapped to it? I'd trust these scientists before I trust those biologists harvesting bacteria that will consume every living thing on the planet. Bring on the pretty explosion! I'm in Florida, I may be able to see it as I sweep Canadians from my doorstep.

RimrookSince 2003

Tito

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 23:32:24 UTC Post #274654

Just in!.....The official date for turning the LHC on full power: December 21, 2012.

Um,....wait a second.

Oh shit!

Tito

DiscoStu

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-19 23:35:40 UTC Post #274655

What's not dangerous about a proton with 3.5 trillion elections strapped to it?

It's already bad enough once every couple of years...

DiscoStu

ATDestroy

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-20 00:08:04 UTC Post #274660

Just in!.....The official date for turning the LHC on full power: December 21, 2012.

Um,....wait a second.

Oh shit!

I LOL'd.

ATDestroy

kraken

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-23 07:14:59 UTC Post #274744

Guys, this is quantum mechanics.......... it's the strangest shit you could ever study. No theory is absurd when it comes to quantum mechanics, but I doubt this one, just to voice an opinion.

Also the nearest mass outside our solar system is a mere 5 or so light years away. Disregarding space junk.

kraken

hlife_hotdog

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-23 09:37:43 UTC Post #274748

Well, if you ask me, this technology can't even be utilised into a practical use for the next 500 years AT LEAST!! And if anyone entered that chamber while it was on, they would suffer an immensely painful death as thousands of super-heated particles ripped through your body. You would feel like you were burning from the inside.

hlife_hotdogForever

SpaG

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-23 10:38:55 UTC Post #274749

Why would anyone want to enter the tube? Even if it was possible.

SpaG

hlife_hotdog

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-23 10:41:30 UTC Post #274750

Tito wants to

It's his scheme to turn himself into a superhero/villan

hlife_hotdogForever

Saribous

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-23 12:20:42 UTC Post #274752

I wouldn't want to enter it myself, but I'd pay good money to see Lindsey Lohan being disintegrated

Saribous

Tito

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-23 13:00:35 UTC Post #274753

Tito wants to

It's his scheme to turn himself into a superhero/villan

Well, I do have delusions of grandeur on becoming "The Leader", as seen in the Hulk comics:

Can anybody really blame me?

Tito

Saribous

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-23 15:01:40 UTC Post #274754

Whoa, that guy has a ballsack on his head

Saribous

38_98

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-23 15:11:40 UTC Post #274755

It's worth pointing out that the LHC's operating temperature is 1.9 Kelvin, which is -271.25 Celcius. So if you stepped inside, you'd just freeze.

38_98Lord

srry

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-23 15:41:57 UTC Post #274756

This whole theory looks like total publicity stunt bullshit. It sounds like Marty McFly's gonna be going back in time to kill the Large Hardon Collider's boner. This machine has even more dastardly capabilities than first expected: It has the power to turn well respected professionals into shitty science fiction writers.

srry

Striker

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-23 16:04:44 UTC Post #274760

This whole theory looks like total publicity stunt bullshit.

You're right. I believe they accelerate atomic bombs in those tunnels !

StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure

srry

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-23 16:08:38 UTC Post #274761

...

I'm talking about the time-travel theory.

srry

Instant Mix

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-23 16:24:47 UTC Post #274762

Really just an excuse for scientists

"Mister Freeman , why haven't you created the Higgs Boson yet?"
"My.. er.. dog ... ate it?"
"Do you expect me to believe it?"
"No.. hah .. because it actually.. er.. goes back in time to .. er.. destroy it self"
"SRSLY WTF?!"

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Saribous

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-23 16:58:19 UTC Post #274763

You're right. I believe they accelerate atomic bombs in those tunnels !

Actually, they ride go-carts in it!

Saribous

Daubster

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-23 17:18:51 UTC Post #274764

Hah, +1, Mix.

DaubsterVault Dweller

kdunivan

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-24 02:15:58 UTC Post #274767

what's the big deal about the big bang anyways? we know it happened so why do we need to re-create it. I don't see how this really helps us. they are probably dead wrong about the bang anyways. all the freaking black holes are going to swallow each other and everything anyways. what then? huh?

what would be screwed up is if they actually do create a black hole in europe. what do you do with that? any safety procedures for this event? we gonna just blast it off into space? people need to stop messing.....

kdunivan

Saribous

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-24 05:51:56 UTC Post #274769

We think we know what happened, but we don't know "Why", hence the research. And any black hole that might be created (abysmal chance) will be too small to cause any damage, it simply won't have enough mass.

tl;dr: Earth won't be swallowed by a black hole anytime soon

Saribous

Instant Mix

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-24 06:25:24 UTC Post #274770

Yes , Black holes being created IS possible , but like what saribous said , The black hole will only exsist for nanoseconds , and considering it's in a vacuum and has no mass - it'll immediately dissapear.

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kraken

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-24 08:02:32 UTC Post #274774

what's the big deal about the big bang anyways? we know it happened so why do we need to re-create it. I don't see how this really helps us. they are probably dead wrong about the bang anyways. all the freaking black holes are going to swallow each other and everything anyways. what then? huh?

what would be screwed up is if they actually do create a black hole in europe. what do you do with that? any safety procedures for this event? we gonna just blast it off into space? people need to stop messing.....

are you trying to be sarcastic, or are you just an idiot?

kraken

Instant Mix

Posted 15 years ago2009-10-24 08:13:28 UTC Post #274775

Probably a bit of both

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Large Hadron Collider: New Crazy Theory Created 15 years ago2009-10-19 15:09:34 UTC by Tito