Half-Life 2: GoldSrc Created 14 years ago2010-06-19 15:59:28 UTC by ManlyStump

The first wasn't really aimed at the project, but rather the shitstorm following the posting of the thread, which as you can tell, already came.

Second one, was more aimed at the general fact that almost every single mod using this idea has failed horribly, not the mod itself, and as you see in my other post i caught on to the fact that you weren't really trying to make a full port, but rather something a little bit more original\imaginative .

I knew there's something strange about crollo's writing style.

Hello =NH= Yodalman!

Hello The_(c)Striker! (Although i wish you reffered to me by my formal name, thehalflifedude, as opposed to the =NH=...)

Wait, i have a 'writing style'? :/

To OT: Give me a day or two to gather up my work and then I'll apply.

ok, thehalflifedude(altough I prefer crollo :D)

Wait, i have a 'writing style'? :/

Everybody does, but something felt strange reading those lines. So I clicked the name :P.

Ok crollo (or thehalflifedude if you prefer ), apologies for my incorrect assumptions about your comments. I look forward to seeing you on our forums.

That's alright, my sarcasm is non-existant on the internet, yet i still try anyways.

Looking forward to the mod, if it ever get's off ground, heh.

Well, that explains why you didn't make a post saying hello, and seemed comfortable using all the features at the same time.

Well if you do become a part of the team, you'll be able to see we have made some minor steps. We've got a lot of decision making and designing to do before we really get development off the ground though. And unfortunately, we haven't really got concept artists and designers on the team yet!

"We've got a lot of decision making and designing to do before we really get development off the ground though." - ManlyStump

You're not kidding. Are you seriously following through with this, I thought this was a troll plaing a joke~. o.0

Never trolled in my life mate. Well, depends on your definition.

Explain to me how you are going todo the coast levels without repetitive textures, no displacements and huge open areas?

An open area with loads of triangle-like brushes is going to destory the gldsrc engine.

Anyway good luck, should be interesting.

hmmm... wonder when Black Mesa will be out.

Oh GOD please STOP THIS .

IT'S ABOUT IMAGINATION, THINKING AND SCALING.

They aren't GOING TO MAKE A CARBON COPY BECAUSE IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

Stop posting shit like "I wonder how you will map that..." because it has been discussed already.

[EDIT]Hot Shift Key

CStriker, go to bed.

What are you guys doing about the physics?

Jesus, ManlyStump, get your grey matter working.

This. Is. Pointless.
It won't work. Give it up and map a singleplayer map/mappack/mod for HL1 or HL2 instead. It's much more fun and there's less work involved in making one.

Why can't you just accept the fact [i]DEMAKING[/i] Half-Life 2 in the GoldSource engine is simply not feasible.

Because you're just being closed-minded. I've never said we're making it absolutely faithful to the original, or even that we're trying to make it as faithful as possible. We're retelling the HL2 story within the means available as of 1998-2000. We haven't even decided how much of it we're going to do. We may just do up to the Red Letter Day section for the novelty of it, meaning gravity gun, vehicles, wide open spaces, needn't matter to us.

I've never said we're making it absolutely faithful to the original, or even that we're trying to make it as faithful as possible.

That means... it's not Half-life2 lol. Sorry but, all these negative views will hit home sooner or later.

And for the record, The Mighty Atom is proberly the most open-minded person on the internet.

Because you're just being closed-minded.

He's being more of realist imo.

You could remake some of the starting chapters if you wanted to I guess, but beyond that you would need a massive team of extremely skilled programmers to get the goldsource engine anywhere close to where it would need to be.

But then Grim, it wouldn't be the "1998-2000" [as he says] Gldsrc engine we know of.

For crying out loud, I would rather rip my eyes out then try and recreate HL2 in HL1 format.

EDIT: Everyone stop flaming it, and lets watch it fail and see if he ever posts on these forums again. Moaby grabs popcorn

I hope you just ordered a ton of popcorn.

I told you to go back to bed.

I call the Angry Video Game Nerd on ManlyStump!

I would consider it quite an honour for AVGN to do a video on something I had helped work on! Unless I make it available for the SNES though I don't see it happening...

Ok, let me give you some extremely objective hindsight.

Once upon a midnight dreary there was a mod named 6D. It had Daubster, TWHL's top programmer, myself on all graphics and mapping, and Grim on the music. Together we were the legion of doom making things awesome. Daubster hit a bunch of snags coding telekinetics and basic physics into HL, ultimately things were far too tricky given the HL code is a pain in the ass in some parts of it. The HL code is balanced very delicately and messing with it, well, if you have played Flat-Life you've probably experienced some nasty glitches and crashes. Myself doing models, I couldn't get new grunt models or scientists working. It was also difficult to map with incomplete code. After 2.5 years, the project fell apart outright and was discontinued. If we couldn't get the simple things working, how are you going to get all of those complicated source things in goldsource.

We're not... that's the whole point of us using GoldSrc...?

ManlyStump you came here with 1 goal, to get more team members. This has failed... so go away and stop disrupting us TWHL'ers.

I asure you that no one on this forum is going to change their mind and help you, okay?

God you guys are cunts. If you think the idea won't work stop posting. Stop bashing him. He'll figure stuff out on his own.

He's not forcing anyone to read this thread, so fuck off.

Luke I said basicly that earlier, "Everyone stop flaming it, and lets watch it fail and see if he ever posts on these forums again. Moaby grabs popcorn " funnily enough no one listened, and I doubt they will to you.

I'm off this thread now, boring me.

It's funny, most of my post was directed to you.

Oh please do fuck off Luke. Every website I goto there is always a dick like you.

This has failed... so go away and stop disrupting us TWHL'ers.

I don't care if people try to discourage him, but thats pretty disrespectful.

(cut it out)

As much as it pains me to say it, I agree with Luke.
Edit: and now grim.

Grim, please read ALL of what is written. I said that getting members from this community has not worked - Not the project has failed. I'm not making fun of him at all, this just isn't working... most of this thread is negative including my own comments.

Oh I did. It's the "go away" part that bothered me.

He probably wont get people from here, but he seems well intentioned. Just let him do his thing, and he'll probably never post here as soon as this thread dies. (Too bad, I liked his name)

Because the thread is negative, it's okay to be negative? No. It's not.

He said it was disrespectful because you told him to leave, like we're all too good for him. That's just plain douche baggery.

EDIT: As he pointed out.

I told him to leave the thread/subject, althought that wasn't so clear looking back at it.

EDIT: Sorry on my behalf.

Ok, let me give you some extremely objective hindsight.

Once upon a midnight dreary there was a mod named 6D. It had Daubster, TWHL's top programmer, myself on all graphics and mapping, and Grim on the music. Together we were the legion of doom making things awesome. Daubster hit a bunch of snags coding telekinetics and basic physics into HL, ultimately things were far too tricky given the HL code is a pain in the ass in some parts of it. The HL code is balanced very delicately and messing with it, well, if you have played Flat-Life you've probably experienced some nasty glitches and crashes. Myself doing models, I couldn't get new grunt models or scientists working. It was also difficult to map with incomplete code. After 2.5 years, the project fell apart outright and was discontinued. If we couldn't get the simple things working, how are you going to get all of those complicated source things in goldsource.

I see where this is going. I never imagined people being that arrogant. So are you afraid that he will succeed? Will it be a pain in your ass if he succeeds and the mighty creators of 6D failed?

I understand that you first advise him not to do so, but if he doesn't accept that advise and he is very decided then you should encourage him. Fail\Success, you don't know. But you all start a flame war because you are afraid of such a success.
I wish I wouldn't use too much the 'if' word :D.

Moab, for someone who is seemingly offended by this thread, you've posted in it more times than I have! Why are you still here? You've said your piece, time and again, and I've chosen not to listen to you. Deal with it. And if you'd bothered to actually read this thread you'd see that crollo has said he intends to apply in a day or two, so I can't quite follow you when you say my search for new members has failed.

Besides which, I created this thread less than 48 hours ago. Even if it were true that nobody at all was interested, it doesn't mean to say nobody else would be.

Lock this thread please. It's turned into an all out flame war and doesn't look like it's going to stop.

I think more so the point is this Striker...

1) It won't work. Not that no one has figured out how to do most this coding, just that in the GoldSource engine, it doesn't tie together and makes things beyond screwy. It just can't happen.

2) Even though we've stated that it won't work, if somehow we entered a fantasy world where it WOULD work, and it was successfully made and finished, who would WANT to play it? Look at it this way:
a.) Primitive Version of Half-Life 2 featuring numerous bugs and glitches, weak graphics, and highly condensed gameplay
b.) The real thing, featuring beautiful graphics, expansive levels, next-to-no bugs, and fully featured including all the levels, gameplay, voices, and such forth.

3) Back to ANYONE that is going to mention Black Mesa again based on what I said. In simplest respect, Black Mesa is turning an dated game from an old man into a beautiful young woman. This project would be the opposite. I'm sure most of us wouldn't like our young beautiful girlfriends turning into wrinkly old men, so why would we want our games to?

Regardless, if this is an endeavor that the OP wishes to pursue, then I wish him and his team good luck, you're going to need it.

I think your point 3 is sexist, saw1833

Primitive Version of Half-Life 2 featuring numerous bugs and glitches, weak graphics, and highly condensed gameplay

As been said a dozen times, it's not a remake of the half life 2 we have.

It's not a remake of the 'real thing', it's what they imagine a sequel to half life would have been if valve didn't take 7 years to make hl2.

But yes, this has become downgraded to flamewars and insults.

I direct everyone to one item: The Hl2 themed map/maps from Reissues.

"Deal with it."

I dealt with it, like a jumper in winter. And I have apologized, so good luck.

Well, it's good to see the good old folks here are still capable of a pretty severe flame war.

Still, it would be nice to see some screenshots when you have them, so we have an idea of what you hope to achieve.

And hi thehalflifedude, I knew it was you as soon as you made your first post under that username. You do have a particular writing style and I hadn't seen you for a while =)

on what planet is this thread even remotely a flame war. has twhl really become so boring that THIS is considered ~drama?

jesus christ.

good luck with your ambitious project. if you actually release anything i will personally chop off my right testicle.

that is all.

Didn't you get banned, crollo?

if you actually release anything i will personally chop off my right testicle.

Hey ManlyStump, I think I want to join the project after all

^ I screenshotted that just incase i'll have to create a topic about it later on :>