Texturing
Created 13 years ago2010-12-12 11:16:59 UTC by
Dimbeak
Created 13 years ago2010-12-12 11:16:59 UTC by
Dimbeak
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-12 11:16:59 UTC
Post #287841
I hate when I'm texturing things in hammer while carving them. What would happen is I get the c1a0_labglu texture and put it where I want a sliding door. I then give the sides c1a0b_dr4 and carve it. However, when I try to do it to another door, I accidently forget that when I use the texture to apply the new texture, it selects all of those textures. I would forget and appy, and the carved-doors would all turn out wrong. I hate doing them over, is there any way to stop this function?
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-12 12:08:42 UTC
Post #287842
Use the clip tool instead of carving. That should fix it.
(Seriously, there's no need to carve, and it usually results in inefficient brushes, ie. Horizontal cuts in walls when you should be clipping a vertical cut for the doorframe)
(Seriously, there's no need to carve, and it usually results in inefficient brushes, ie. Horizontal cuts in walls when you should be clipping a vertical cut for the doorframe)
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-12 12:24:31 UTC
Post #287843
Do not carve. Period.
The clip tool (not to be confused with the CLIP texture) is perfect to cut a hole in a wall for a door or window. Do that first, then apply the texture.
The clip tool (not to be confused with the CLIP texture) is perfect to cut a hole in a wall for a door or window. Do that first, then apply the texture.
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-12 14:40:17 UTC
Post #287847
I WAS going to leave this one alone, lol.
Listen to these guys....
Carving should have never been included in hammer at all. Even though I have mastered it and know when to use it I still prefer to create all my brushes from scratch. I use the clone tool more than anything.
The clip tool is also very useful for breaking a brush into more than one piece. Especially good for objects with more than 4 sides that you want to chop.
I also work in nodraw first to avoid unwanted/unseen textures. Math and numbers are your friend. Work in units of 8 and you shouldn't have a problems with textures.
Trust me, the crave tool is evil. My early maps prove this!
Listen to these guys....
Carving should have never been included in hammer at all. Even though I have mastered it and know when to use it I still prefer to create all my brushes from scratch. I use the clone tool more than anything.
The clip tool is also very useful for breaking a brush into more than one piece. Especially good for objects with more than 4 sides that you want to chop.
I also work in nodraw first to avoid unwanted/unseen textures. Math and numbers are your friend. Work in units of 8 and you shouldn't have a problems with textures.
Trust me, the crave tool is evil. My early maps prove this!
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-12 14:47:37 UTC
Post #287848
The crave tool? What's that do?
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-12 14:49:51 UTC
Post #287849
I do use units of 8 and thanks for all the info, but how do you cut out specific holes? I can only use the clip to cut edges and give a bit of a bend.
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-12 16:44:04 UTC
Post #287852
You need to click on the clip tool button multiple times to switch modes. There are three:
Keep right half (white lines), remove left half (red lines)
Keep left half (same above)
Keep both halfs (all white lines)
Keep right half (white lines), remove left half (red lines)
Keep left half (same above)
Keep both halfs (all white lines)
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-12 17:16:27 UTC
Post #287853
Which do I use and how do I use it?
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-12 17:47:21 UTC
Post #287854
Select the wall.
Click the clip tool.
Draw a line on the selected wall.
Depending on the mode, the left side is either red while the right side is white or vise versa, or both sides are white.
Click on the clip tool to select the mode you want.
Then hit enter.
Click the clip tool.
Draw a line on the selected wall.
Depending on the mode, the left side is either red while the right side is white or vise versa, or both sides are white.
Click on the clip tool to select the mode you want.
Then hit enter.
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-12 18:08:44 UTC
Post #287855
But that only cuts it, I know how to do that.
How do I cut a hole into it using only one object.
How do I cut a hole into it using only one object.
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-12 18:50:33 UTC
Post #287856
You want to cut a whole in the wall that is the size of the one object?
You can do that by carving the object into the wall, but as stated before, carving is bad. It creates a mess of off-grid vertices which can cause leaks and ugly cracks in the wall ingame. Don't do it.
Its better to create individual brushes in combination with the clip tool to make the hole you want.
You can do that by carving the object into the wall, but as stated before, carving is bad. It creates a mess of off-grid vertices which can cause leaks and ugly cracks in the wall ingame. Don't do it.
Its better to create individual brushes in combination with the clip tool to make the hole you want.
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-12 18:52:11 UTC
Post #287857
Well, none of this solves my problem, still.
I would forget and appy, and the carved-doors would all turn out wrong. I hate doing them over, is there any way to stop this function?
I would forget and appy, and the carved-doors would all turn out wrong. I hate doing them over, is there any way to stop this function?
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-12 18:57:31 UTC
Post #287858
how about you read more tutorials.
it helps you know.
it helps you know.
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-12 22:19:20 UTC
Post #287860
Had a look at the problem using Teamviewer, he was clicking the mark button on the texturebrowser everytime he selects a texture. That selected all the faces in the map that had the choosen texture applied. All he had to do is just double click.
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-12 22:49:06 UTC
Post #287862
lol
failure of epic proportions
failure of epic proportions
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 01:31:08 UTC
Post #287864
lol i carve all the time.
even in source.
screw y'all i still keep my maps neat
/2 cents
even in source.
screw y'all i still keep my maps neat
/2 cents
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 03:28:07 UTC
Post #287868
Carve and rebuild 
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 14:12:06 UTC
Post #287881
i carve all the time to and keep it neat, even when I don't need to. After making my floor, I make a big block around it and carve in the middle so I can texture it all at once.
Carve, carve, carve, carve, too much carving but I'm okay and I like it, I'm with Tetsu0.
Carve, carve, carve, carve, too much carving but I'm okay and I like it, I'm with Tetsu0.
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 14:33:07 UTC
Post #287882
I make a big block around it and carve in the middle so I can texture it all at once.wat
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 14:48:06 UTC
Post #287883
Carve, carve, carve, carve, too much carving but I'm okay and I like itYou can carve all you want but be ready to face Unforeseen Consequences...
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 15:13:41 UTC
Post #287884
i see what you did there.
I only carve for doorways and windows and such.
nothing more or less than 4 sides, and only into another 4 sided face.
I usually have a doorframe sized brush and a window sized brush hanging around in my map so i can move it in and carve to make quick work of walls.
I only carve for doorways and windows and such.
nothing more or less than 4 sides, and only into another 4 sided face.
I usually have a doorframe sized brush and a window sized brush hanging around in my map so i can move it in and carve to make quick work of walls.
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 15:18:54 UTC
Post #287885
Yeah i guess that works. Carving simple shapes like 6 sided cubes into other 6 sided cubes works, but carving more complex objects like cillinders and arches... OUCH! Don't do that.
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 15:27:07 UTC
Post #287886
Quote:Well, you make your floor and put a large block exactly above it touching it. Then, make another block that cuts through the middle of the last part. Without ig, click it and texture it and DONE!
I make a big block around it and carve in the middle so I can texture it all at once.
wat
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 16:07:05 UTC
Post #287887
im gonna need a picture
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 16:51:54 UTC
Post #287889
That doesn't make any sense, Dimbark.
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 17:23:55 UTC
Post #287890
IMO Brushwork 101 should be mandatory in every elementary school on the globe. Cut health class to make budget who needs that anyways 
I make a big block around it and carve in the middle so I can texture it all at once.I want to see a screenshot of this, I'm a bit puzzled.
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 17:41:32 UTC
Post #287891
This is the room uncarved and untextured, it is just one large block with another block in it.
This is the room carved and textured.
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 18:24:05 UTC
Post #287894
Dude, stop carving.
it doesn't do any good carving. Because I see some terribly stretched textures on the tops of the walls.
it doesn't do any good carving. Because I see some terribly stretched textures on the tops of the walls.
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 18:31:44 UTC
Post #287895
no, the
terribly stretched textures on the top of the wallsis just when I click "Full" and then do the textures. I make every wall block like that because it's simpler and impossible to see if there was a ceiling.
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 18:36:15 UTC
Post #287896
/facepalm
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 19:05:11 UTC
Post #287897
You have a lot to learn, Dimbark. A good mapper doesn't create a room by just simply carving a massive brush into another massive brush, a good mapper creates the walls, floors, ceillings and whatnot manually, brush by brush.
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 19:15:27 UTC
Post #287898
haha me too...
if you want to do it the way you need to make four brushes making a square hole
then make 4 cubes, cut them from corner to corner to make a triangle, then put them in the hole for a
stop sign type a shape... thats a very basic hole
OR
http://forum.interlopers.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2256&start=0
But the outer vertices, just move out to make a square.
eeer, does anyone else have better pics than this!?
if you want to do it the way you need to make four brushes making a square hole
then make 4 cubes, cut them from corner to corner to make a triangle, then put them in the hole for a
stop sign type a shape... thats a very basic hole
OR
http://forum.interlopers.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2256&start=0
But the outer vertices, just move out to make a square.
eeer, does anyone else have better pics than this!?
Posted 13 years ago2010-12-13 19:27:01 UTC
Post #287899
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