TWHL Pockets Created 7 years ago2017-07-25 13:03:08 UTC by monster_urby

Mine is "finished" but it's extremely small... might screw with the layout a bunch more and see if I can fill out the space better.

Mine is basically finished now, but I'm trying to figure out if I can stop all the grunts from blowing themselves and each other up with grenades.

easiest way is to not let them have grenades.

There are also soldiers in my map and I found that giving them granades is a big no-no with the architecture that they are in.

You give a good point about the importance of uniqueness in each map. I'll try to come up with something else.

@2muchvideogames

I made a separate topic about the problem, but I didn't give them nades, yet they somehow have them anyway.

13k faces in-editor.

So, what do you think?

@Windawz

Much nicer brushwork than mine usually is, that's for sure.

Edit:

@Urby

I know health will be replenished on each map change but will the suit also be charged back up or is that left up to the mapper?

Suit charge is up to the mapper really. There is no way to strip it in vanilla goldsource, so the player may well enter your map with full suit charge already.

I think it's a nice reward, suit charge is. Unless someone puts 20 wall chargers it's hard to keep suit charge high in combat especially against soldiers. I think urby can handle rearranging maps so that easy and hard maps are ordered appropriately.

"There is no way to strip it in vanilla goldsource"

Wait, so suit charge strip is a SoHL feature?

urby had a slew of entities set up to remove it in vanilla for twhl tower but when spirit had a single entity to do it I think he switch over to that

I'm sure if you screw around with trigger_hurt enough you can rig it up, just depends on whether or not that's worth doing.

Also,

Just had a different idea for a Pocket map. Which is convenient, because I still haven't touched my original idea since this project started. Now, how to implement it...

Congratulations to MistaX88 for being the first to get his map submitted. Just ran through it and had a blast. Well done.

Can't wait to try it out myself.

So uh, is there any specific syntax you want us to use for sound folder names? Right now it's just "pockets_v933", will that work?

Fun fact: I decided to forgo ripping sounds from other games this time and instead mixed my own from various HL1 sounds.

@Urby

Glad you liked it.

@Victor-933

I just made a folder called "sound" like in stock HL1 and then a sub folder called "mistax88" where I put my sounds (which is also what I do with my CS maps in case I accidentally give a sound the same name as a sound distributed with another map).

BTW, love those screens from your map.

Am I allowed to replace the button with something else/remove it completely so the door is opened by a trigger?

I replaced mine with a different button (the same keypad used inside the starting airlock). I also had it trigger a multi_manager first so it not only opens the door but starts up a few events. I'm pretty sure you can do whatever you want as long as it works and opens up the airlock.

@MistaX88

Oh, well, thanks!
________________________________________Does that glow effect look out of place?

I should add though that there should be some kind of indication to the player that whatever happened or whatever they did in the map is what caused the door to open. Like, if they just have to go through the level and they cross through some trigger_once in a random doorway that opens the airlock then that would be kinda lame. But if that trigger once was actually linked to some audible and/or visible event that led to the door opening it would look a lot better.

Though this is my first single player map just doing mapping in general has made me notice and analyze things in games that I play; like how events or lighting are used to attract the player's attention to certain things or how certain things are used to let the player know that their actions may have effected something off screen. These things can be obvious or a bit more subtle. For example, once all the chaos begins on my map you have two directions you can go, but you have to go up one way first. I specifically set the grunts that come running out to first stop in specific places to entice the player to move away from them, thus, towards the side of the map they should go to first. I also have one of my blue func_breakable brushes underneath a ladder on the ground where it would stand out and catch the players eye, making it just a bit easier to spot the ladder they need to climb when they start getting shot at.

"Like, if they just have to go through the level and they cross through some trigger_once in a random doorway that opens the airlock then that would be kinda lame."

Don't worry. Maybe I'm a beginner, but I'm not that bad.

Haha, I just figured it was worth mentioning. Plus it was an excuse to go off on a tangent about some of the thought process I went through making my map.

I also forgot to comment on the glow effect. It doesn't look too out of place based on the impression I'm getting about your map so far but without seeing the whole picture I'm not sure.

The impression I'm getting based on the screens are that the map consists of mysterious, desolate ruins with hints of possible magic/fantasy tech in it's past. But I could be waaaaay off base.

@MistaX88

It's called "Xen Anomaly". Basically it's a stone structure levitating somewhere in Xen, so I can use Xen monsters in my map.

"The impression I'm getting based on the screens are that the map consists of mysterious, desolate ruins with hints of possible magic/fantasy tech in it's past."

Oh, then I guess I'm doing everything right. Thank you.

@Urby

It looks like you've left the bottom faces of the airlock doors untextured:

I just took a look on my own map. The start airlock door is textured underneath but the end airlock isn't. I just fixed it on my map now so when we make edits later after playtesting it'll already be done. I didn't notice it before because of the way the lighting works it's usually pitched black.

too proud of this sequence to not show it off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo2GFH50efw

Does that actually take control of the camera for a second too? I like it.

Yeah, it uses a trigger_camera and some func_train hackery. I just wish I had more control (or any control, really) over the camera pan speed.

Out of curiosity, has anyone shown the outside of the airlocks (not counting the doors, obviously)?

You can see the bottom of one of my airlocks (with the ceiling/floor it displaced in pieces and on fire under it). You can also see one side of both the start and end airlocks. You can also see most of the front of the start airlock around the door because it was supposed to have popped in within an existing hallway.

The layout has been done for like a week now. Everything since has just been screwing with scripting and adding pointless details...

so I just recently thought of something. I noticed everyone else has their airlock door busting out of a wall. Is that like.. a requirement? Because in mine I have them set up more like active wormholes. Might need to do a bunch of reorganizing if that won't work...

Not a requirement as far as I'm aware. It was something we discussed briefly earlier in the topic and Urby had shown how his airlock was busting out of a bathroom wall. I had already been bouncing around a similar idea. One of my airlocks is busting out of a wall like Urby's but you can also see a bit of the outside of it through a crack in another wall.

My other airlock is filling up a hallway. You can see the whole front face of the airlock around the door with cracks on the hallway walls and floor. On the floor below it, you can see the bottom of the airlock, with the floor/ceiling it displaced in pieces on the ground and on fire (which is just outside of the 1024 cube so the fire makes a nice punishment to the player for leaving).

The above post is correct. It's basically up to you how you integrate the airlock into your world.

Just received and played through Dr.Orange's map. Absolutely sublime.

welp... while awaiting a response on my question I got to thinking of ways to solve that issue, and ended up completely reworking that map... ...and now I enjoy the rework a lot more than what I had before.

The first iteration had zero combat and was solely focused on puzzles. It was also really small and short and wasted a lot of space. This new version, though, takes on more of a survival horror element and has a lot more meat on its bones...

Glad to hear it

lovely work here

Windawz stuff looks like Unreal style, pretty good.

I actually tried to make a Quake-like level with runekeys and stuff, but I agree, it looks more like Unreal rather than Quake.

The map is very short and the gameplay is pretty bad i.m.o. I have no idea how to improve it at the moment.

Unreal rocks... Love that map

It's certainly looking good.

Okay, I think I'm ready to send mine in for a beta test. I literally haven't made a single player map since I first started mapping, so I'm unsure on the pacing and such. Anyway, do I just PM you a link, Urby?

I'm only like half done... and already like 3 ppl finished. I really need to come up with something.

Oh right I still need to test fassns and repels

This might take a while...

Okay, I think I'm ready to send mine in for a beta test. I literally haven't made a single player map since I first started mapping, so I'm unsure on the pacing and such. Anyway, do I just PM you a link, Urby?

That'll be fine

Now it looks better I think.

looking good Windawz!

Finally got about halfway through mine, I'll be working flat-out over the next 2 weeks to get it done but hopefully I'll scrape over the edge

I already sent mine in but I really like this room so I'm gonna show it off.(it's even better ingame)

UPDATE!
We're in the final stretch now guys. This is the last week to get your first drafts submitted. I've had three submissions so far. If anyone is still working away and needs another extension, now is the time to say.

Thanks to everyone who has sent their map so far. Everyone else, confirm if you are still working on a map, or be struck off the list on Sunday.