omg new hammer!! =D Created 20 years ago2004-09-03 18:52:04 UTC by zooyorkbmxer

If anything i would d-l the hammer. Not the HL2.

Legal or not, everything is for people! I Downloaded many movies/games, legal or not, beta or full and i do NOT fell guilty. All (most) best games that i have are original, fully legal version, but hl2 beta leak? WHY NOT! Full version? I'll wait a year or 2(better price ), and then i'll buy legal version. Thats ALL my thinking about piracy. Oh, and ALL programs and movies? ONLY free ones or not legal! BUT if you want to spend you'r money for something you won't be using more than 1 month, well, you can do what you want!

Alls i can find is the source code. I have somewhat of an idea of what to do with that...

Sigh noob. get Anon-hl2
Filename: Half life 2 - anon- hl2 -fixed - include patch and user guide.rar
Size: 1,25 GB (1?343?988?170 byte)
Download URL: http://www.suprnova.org (BT, I suggest you get a good client)

Bittorrent.

heh 1.2 gigs...

bit with my 56k modem, thats for sure!

If you have a half decent 56k connection, it would take about a week.

don't ban me but, wats wronge with beta?

For one thing, it's illegal by international copyright laws to posess pre-release software, beta versions, or otherwise illegaly obtained (downloaded) software if permisison is not given by the producer to have a copy.

Secondly, it's harmful to VALVe and other software companies when people download leaked betas; These people often won't buy the game at all, or just download another copy when it goes final. This means that those 1000 people won't mean profit for VALVe even though they have their game, which, if enough people pirate software, can drive smaller companies like VALVe out of business, and leave us with incredibly rich software conglomarates that pour out crap games. Most of the better games today are produced by smaller studios. If the studio does not profit from their game (usually only one in production to the size of the studio), they cannot pay their workers, and thus most of them leave and the studio goes out of business.

Think of it this way. If everyone pirated HL, then VALVe wouldn't have profited as much and wouldn't have been able to put as much effort into making the great game that is HL2, as staff cuts or less development budget would affect the game.

Oh, one more thing. Fines for violation of those international copyright laws are pretty steep. Pursuant to the Copyright Act (17 U.S.C Section 504(c)), fines can be up to $30,000 per motion picture pirated, and up to $150,000 per motion picture if you willingly downloaded it. You cant pay that much, you can go to jail.

Do you really want to risk paying that much, or being in jail for a lousy computer game?

Oh, and just saying "Eh, that'll never happen to me" may sound true, though in reality, it isn't. Remember those who got sued for copyright infringement on music? They probably thought that as well.

up to $30,000 per motion picture pirated, and up to $150,000 per motion picture if you willingly downloaded it.

If you willingly downloaded it? How are you not going to willingly download it...

Zombie, what do I do with the torrent file?

Nevermind, I just completely reformatted my hard drive, and re-installed everything that I have had in the past like 2 years and I am not taking anymore chances of downloading bad stuff.

If you download some sort of file and it is actually a film or software title labelled as something else, as opposed to searching for 'movie title illegal download' or something. (some of these files are 'disguised' as legal files which would be considerably smaller, so one could go "er I didn't know that was a movie!")

I don't know if thats correct or not (I dont know much about legal matters...) but that sounds probable to me.

Those Motion Picture fines are similar to software fines as well.

Good choice.

I have had my fair share of pirated things. I have never done it for games but for certain programs I have. I don't feel guilty, I get to sleep at night very peacefully. They charge WAAAYYYY to much for that sort of things, if its over 60$ its a complete rip off.

Sigh.

Software studios are the same as game studios, in terms of size : .

omg my post was deleted!? oh well =/

I want to experiment with the animation tool button thingy. You can make cutscence and stuff. I hope the trigger_camara is a lot less buggy then the hl1 one

don't ban me but, wats wronge with beta?

As far as I know, this wasn't a beta. A beta is a stage where it's becoming fully-playable, I thought this was more of an alpha, just for testing certain aspects?

It wasn't legally released, either.

I must say I didn't pay the full retail price to Macromedia for certain products, but I agree with Rabid about VALVe and smaller companies. I mean, it's like Reflections and the Driver series (only better) - it's all they do, really.

1.26 gb? damn. And how come that website hasnt been sued yet?!?

p2p

I didn't pay the full retail price to Macromedia

Me niether

I pay for good games, Download the ones that are mediocre.
Can't even go to jail, since im under 15

yah, me too.

whats p2p, seventh?

p2p is like Kazaa, eMule, Warez p2p, Donkey, etc. If you think that police can do nothing to you, than grab some pirated cd's and go with them to police dep. and we'll see what will happen

hmmm, ill try that.

Peer to peer. Look it up.
Also, use DC for your pirating needs.

i knew that...

Peer to peer. Basically means that you are downloading stuff from another person and they do the same to you. (File Sharing). Man I wonder what the police would do if they found my friends little collection of downloaded songs! He has like 3000 of em'

i have almost 1200...

I know this is offtopic, but half-life 2 should be very good, because all the money valve made from half-life, they have put into half-life .
And you are trying to run them out of business.

This is true. And watch them make the real release a hell of a lot better than the leak version.

I have 39GB pirated software. Thats not much though, some people on DC hubs have about 300 gigs
All 100% guaranteed illegal

Zombie, where did you get Hammer 4.0 at? I couldn't find it at the site

... go down on the list's scroll bar...

Pfft, ask someone else. All the finnish dudes have it.
btw, 48 gb downloads, just checked

What is the list, I just did I search for half life and I found hl2... I search for hammer and find nothing. cmon zombie tell me

YOU DONT NEED HAMMER IF YOU DONT HAVE Hl2 ANYWAY SO JUST STFU AND GO AWAY TART!1!

... Dude whats up? btw I have hl2 ...

Not the preload you loser.

Hammer comes with HL2...

me neather

Hammer 4 only works when you have the leaked version of HL? and tons of DLLs etc.